[OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 14, Issue 19

Kerry Napuk knapuk at gmail.com
Thu Apr 26 11:51:41 PDT 2012


Hi OSListers

I am coming in late on a topic four days ago and noticed that Barbera
Bunker mentioned Focus Groups.

As Michael Caine often said: "not many people know this," but I believe
focus groups were the creation of psychoanalysts using Freudian principles
at the behest of Edward Bernier (sic), Freud's nephew, who created the
public relations industry in the early part of the 20th century.

Bernier (sic) used focus groups to direct the advertising industry into
manipulating consumers into buying products from the emerging corporate
sector producing a cornucopia of goods.  Interestingly, the focus group
movement spread into politics during the first Clinton campaign, which
Philip Gould, an Australian consultant to New Labour in the UK,
participated and then presented to Tony Blair, who used focus groups to
formulate government policy after beating Margaret Thatcher in 1997.

If anyone is interested, this whole story is told in Adam Curtis's
excellent documentary THE CENTURY OF THE SELF, which can be found in all
its four parts on YOU TUBE.  However, be warned it's a four hour trip.

Cheers

Kerry Napuk
writing from Denver, CO

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>      (Phelim McDermott)
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>   4. Open Space...and Beyond (Harrison Owen)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:54:16 -0400
> From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net>
> To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
>        <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] "Academic Validity?" (again) [was: Re:  (no
>        subject)]
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> And for anybody who cares. I am not offended, insulted, or otherwise
> compromised - except for the continuing loss of neuronal patterns. Artur -
> I
> Love you! And I was JOKING! Horrible American habit. We say one thing - and
> mean totally the opposite. How weird is that? And a lesson for myself -
> This
> is a GLOBAL COMMUNITY, in which we all appear as we are, dressed in our
> cultural drag (.another bad American  saying) - and we totally need to
> understand that others may not understand us in the way we intended. And
> isn't that sad/wonderful? Just another day in Open Space.
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
> Harrison Owen
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> USA
>
>
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> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Harrison Owen
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 12:10 PM
> To: 'Artur Silva'; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
> Subject: Re: [OSList] "Academic Validity?" (again) [was: Re: (no subject)]
>
>
>
> Artur! I'm insulted!! What do you mean, "but his post is IMHO off topic?" I
> guess part of the problem is that I never did learn what "IMHO" means.
> Possibly an indigenous war cry? (IM-HO!!) A new synthetic nutrient, somehow
> related to TOFU? The Portuguese translation of SNAFU? Oh well, antediluvian
> that I am.
>
>
>
> ho
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Harrison Owen
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> USA
>
>
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>
> Camden, Maine 20854
>
>
>
> Phone 301-365-2093
>
> (summer)  207-763-3261
>
>
>
> www.openspaceworld.com
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> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Artur Silva
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 10:31 AM
> To: bbunker at buffalo.edu; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
> Subject: [OSList] "Academic Validity?" (again) [was: Re: (no subject)]
>
>
>
> Hi:
>
>
> 1. I fully agree with Barbara.
>
>
> 2. I also agree with Harrison, but his post is IMHO off topic.
>
>
> 3. I am always surprised when people ask questions about a topic
> (especially
> if it is about a research topic) without having previously done some little
> research of their own. My result of a simple search on "research" at
> "openspacespaceworld.org" conducted me to here:
> http://www.openspaceworld.org/news/cat/openspacetech/research/ and then to
> here: http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/wiki.cgi?ResearchActivities.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Artur
>
>
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: Barbara B. Bunker <bbunker at buffalo.edu>
>
> To: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>; Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [OSList] (no subject)
>
>
> Someone is confused!  "Research methods" are things like lab research,
> field
> research, qualitative research, unobtrusive methods i.e. ways of collecting
> data
> to study behavior.
>
> Focus groups, Delphi, and yes, even Open Space are methods used for
> specific
> purposes in organizations (and elsewhere). They are not research methods.
> And
> yes, there has been research employing focus groups, Delphi, etc in order
> to
> study some behavior or outcome.
>
> It's may be difficult to create a good research study using Open Space but
> I
> imagine it may already exist or could be done.  B3
>
>
>
> Barbara B. Bunker Ph.D.
> Professor of Psychology Emerita
> The University at Buffalo
> 117 Highland Avenue
> Buffalo, NY 14222
> 716-881-2166
>
> On Fri 04/20/12  5:14 PM , "Harrison Owen" hhowen at verizon.net sent:
> > Barry - Just tell Arthur V. that he is absolutely correct. But it is
> > better than that! Not only is Open Space "academically invalid" - it
> > couldn't possibly work, and violates all known principles and
> > practices of management and meeting management. Definitely a No-No!
> > But I think all this says much more about Academe than it does about
> > Open Space, which as we all know - works every time, despite the fact
> > that it is illegal, immoral and fattening - to say nothing of being
> > contrary to the best management principles, etc, etc.
> > You can quote me.
> > ho
> > Harrison Owen
> >
> > 7808 River Falls Dr.
> >
> > Potomac, MD 20854
> >
> > USA
> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
> >
> > Camden, Maine 20854
> > Phone 301-365-2093
> >
> > (summer)  207-763-3261
> > www.openspaceworld.com
> >
> > www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
> >
> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> > OSLIST Go to:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> > [1]
> > FROM: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> > [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] ON BEHALF OF Barry
> > Owen
> > SENT: Friday, April 20, 2012 11:55 AM
> > TO: oslist; vasconcelos at alum.mit.edu
> > SUBJECT: [OSList] "Academic Validity?"
> > Hi Folks,
> > I know this is not the first time this question has surfaced.
> > Who out there (in here) has some good stuff to share?
> > This "academic validity" question boggles my mind
> > The message initially came through the Open Space facebook page
> > J ARTHUR VASCONCELOS [2]
> >
> > Hi! I was questioned about the use of OS in research. I was planning
> > on using OS for a section of my thesis but got criticized for "OS not
> > having academic validity" and "has never been used in research" and
> > "it is not a recognized research method like a focus group or delphi
> > pannel". HELP! Any info about using OS in academia? Thank you!
> >
> >
> >
> > Links:
> > ------
> > [1]
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> > [2] http://www.facebook.com/jarthur.vasconcelos
> >
> >
>
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> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 23:53:31 +0100
> From: Phelim McDermott <phelim at mac.com>
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>        <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] "Academic Validity?" (again) [was: Re:  (no
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> I Never for a second thought you were Harrison. IMHO Did anyone really
> think you were?
>
> Love
>
> Phelim
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> On 21 Apr 2012, at 22:54, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > And for anybody who cares? I am not offended, insulted, or otherwise
> compromised ? except for the continuing loss of neuronal patterns? Artur ?
> I Love you! And I was JOKING! Horrible American habit. We say one thing ?
> and mean totally the opposite. How weird is that? And a lesson for myself ?
> This is a GLOBAL COMMUNITY, in which we all appear as we are, dressed in
> our cultural drag (?another bad American  saying) ? and we totally need to
> understand that others may not understand us in the way we intended. And
> isn?t that sad/wonderful? Just another day in Open Space?
> >
> > Harrison
> >
> > Harrison Owen
> > 7808 River Falls Dr.
> > Potomac, MD 20854
> > USA
> >
> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
> > Camden, Maine 20854
> >
> > Phone 301-365-2093
> > (summer)  207-763-3261
> >
> > www.openspaceworld.com
> > www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> OSLIST Go to:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> >
> > From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Harrison Owen
> > Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 12:10 PM
> > To: 'Artur Silva'; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
> > Subject: Re: [OSList] "Academic Validity?" (again) [was: Re: (no
> subject)]
> >
> > Artur! I?m insulted!! What do you mean, ?but his post is IMHO off
> topic?? I guess part of the problem is that I never did learn what ?IMHO?
> means. Possibly an indigenous war cry? (IM-HO!!) A new synthetic nutrient,
> somehow related to TOFU? The Portuguese translation of SNAFU? Oh well,
> antediluvian that I am?
> >
> > ho
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Harrison Owen
> > 7808 River Falls Dr.
> > Potomac, MD 20854
> > USA
> >
> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
> > Camden, Maine 20854
> >
> > Phone 301-365-2093
> > (summer)  207-763-3261
> >
> > www.openspaceworld.com
> > www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> OSLIST Go to:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> >
> > From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Artur Silva
> > Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 10:31 AM
> > To: bbunker at buffalo.edu; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
> > Subject: [OSList] "Academic Validity?" (again) [was: Re: (no subject)]
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > 1. I fully agree with Barbara.
> >
> > 2. I also agree with Harrison, but his post is IMHO off topic.
> >
> > 3. I am always surprised when people ask questions about a topic
> (especially if it is about a research topic) without having previously done
> some little research of their own. My result of a simple search on
> "research" at "openspacespaceworld.org" conducted me to here:
> http://www.openspaceworld.org/news/cat/openspacetech/research/ and then
> to here: http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/wiki.cgi?ResearchActivities.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Artur
> >
> >
> > From: Barbara B. Bunker <bbunker at buffalo.edu>
> > To: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>; Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: [OSList] (no subject)
> >
> > Someone is confused!  "Research methods" are things like lab research,
> field
> > research, qualitative research, unobtrusive methods i.e. ways of
> collecting data
> > to study behavior.
> >
> > Focus groups, Delphi, and yes, even Open Space are methods used for
> specific
> > purposes in organizations (and elsewhere). They are not research
> methods.  And
> > yes, there has been research employing focus groups, Delphi, etc in
> order to
> > study some behavior or outcome.
> >
> > It's may be difficult to create a good research study using Open Space
> but I
> > imagine it may already exist or could be done.  B3
> >
> >
> >
> > Barbara B. Bunker Ph.D.
> > Professor of Psychology Emerita
> > The University at Buffalo
> > 117 Highland Avenue
> > Buffalo, NY 14222
> > 716-881-2166
> >
> > On Fri 04/20/12  5:14 PM , "Harrison Owen" hhowen at verizon.net sent:
> > > Barry - Just tell Arthur V. that he is absolutely correct. But it is
> > > better than that! Not only is Open Space "academically invalid" - it
> > > couldn't possibly work, and violates all known principles and
> > > practices of management and meeting management. Definitely a No-No!
> > > But I think all this says much more about Academe than it does about
> > > Open Space, which as we all know - works every time, despite the fact
> > > that it is illegal, immoral and fattening - to say nothing of being
> > > contrary to the best management principles, etc, etc.
> > > You can quote me.
> > > ho
> > > Harrison Owen
> > >
> > > 7808 River Falls Dr.
> > >
> > > Potomac, MD 20854
> > >
> > > USA
> > > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
> > >
> > > Camden, Maine 20854
> > > Phone 301-365-2093
> > >
> > > (summer)  207-763-3261
> > > www.openspaceworld.com
> > >
> > > www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
> > >
> > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> > > OSLIST Go to:
> > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> > > [1]
> > > FROM: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> > > [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] ON BEHALF OF Barry
> > > Owen
> > > SENT: Friday, April 20, 2012 11:55 AM
> > > TO: oslist; vasconcelos at alum.mit.edu
> > > SUBJECT: [OSList] "Academic Validity?"
> > > Hi Folks,
> > > I know this is not the first time this question has surfaced.
> > > Who out there (in here) has some good stuff to share?
> > > This "academic validity" question boggles my mind
> > > The message initially came through the Open Space facebook page
> > > J ARTHUR VASCONCELOS [2]
> > >
> > > Hi! I was questioned about the use of OS in research. I was planning
> > > on using OS for a section of my thesis but got criticized for "OS not
> > > having academic validity" and "has never been used in research" and
> > > "it is not a recognized research method like a focus group or delphi
> > > pannel". HELP! Any info about using OS in academia? Thank you!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Links:
> > > ------
> > > [1]
> > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> > > [2] http://www.facebook.com/jarthur.vasconcelos
> > >
> > >
> >
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> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:01:48 +0800 (SGT)
> From: Franklin Quijano <franklinqjn at yahoo.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>        <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] "Academic Validity?" (again) [was: Re:  (no
>        subject)]
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> Harrison,
> Just a suggestion, would you like to give all these comments at the OST
> page in facebook, where people would press the button "like", without
> saying anything more.
> It will be more fun?.
> Franklin
>
> --- On Sun, 4/22/12, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> From: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] "Academic Validity?" (again) [was: Re:  (no subject)]
> To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'" <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Date: Sunday, 22 April, 2012, 5:54 AM
>
> And for anybody who cares? I am not offended, insulted, or otherwise
> compromised ? except for the continuing loss of neuronal patterns? Artur ?
> I Love you! And I was JOKING! Horrible American habit. We say one thing ?
> and mean totally the opposite. How weird is that? And a lesson for myself ?
> This is a GLOBAL COMMUNITY, in which we all appear as we are, dressed in
> our cultural drag (?another bad American ?saying) ? and we totally need to
> understand that others may not understand us in the way we intended. And
> isn?t that sad/wonderful? Just another day in Open Space? ?Harrison
> ?Harrison Owen7808 River Falls Dr.Potomac, MD 20854USA ?189 Beaucaire Ave.
> (summer)Camden, Maine 20854 ?Phone 301-365-2093(summer)? 207-763-3261 ?
> www.openspaceworld.comwww.ho-image.com (Personal Website)To subscribe,
> unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST Go to:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>  ?From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Harrison Owen
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 12:10 PM
> To: 'Artur Silva'; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
> Subject: Re: [OSList] "Academic Validity?" (again) [was: Re: (no subject)]
> ?Artur! I?m insulted!! What do you mean, ?but his post is IMHO off topic??
> I guess part of the problem is that I never did learn what ?IMHO? means.
> Possibly an indigenous war cry? (IM-HO!!) A new synthetic nutrient, somehow
> related to TOFU? The Portuguese translation of SNAFU? Oh well, antediluvian
> that I am? ?ho  ? ? ? ?Harrison Owen7808 River Falls Dr.Potomac, MD
> 20854USA ?189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)Camden, Maine 20854 ?Phone
> 301-365-2093(summer)? 207-763-3261 ?www.openspaceworld.comwww.ho-image.com(Personal Website)To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
> archives of OSLIST Go to:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org?From:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Artur Silva
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 10:31 AM
> To: bbunker at buffalo.edu; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
> Subject: [OSList] "Academic Validity?" (again) [was: Re: (no subject)] ?Hi:
> 1. I fully agree with Barbara.
> 2. I also agree with Harrison, but his post is IMHO off topic.
> 3. I am always surprised when people ask questions about a topic
> (especially if it is about a research topic) without having previously done
> some little research of their own. My result of a simple search on
> "research" at "openspacespaceworld.org" conducted me to here:?
> http://www.openspaceworld.org/news/cat/openspacetech/research/?and then
> to here:?
> http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/wiki.cgi?ResearchActivities.?Regards?Artur? ?From: Barbara B. Bunker <
> bbunker at buffalo.edu>To: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>; Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 1:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [OSList] (no subject)
> Someone is confused!? "Research methods" are things like lab research,
> field
> research, qualitative research, unobtrusive methods i.e. ways of
> collecting data
> to study behavior.
>
> Focus groups, Delphi, and yes, even Open Space are methods used for
> specific
> purposes in organizations (and elsewhere). They are not research methods.?
> And
> yes, there has been research employing focus groups, Delphi, etc in order
> to
> study some behavior or outcome.
>
> It's may be difficult to create a good research study using Open Space but
> I
> imagine it may already exist or could be done.? B3
>
>
>
> Barbara B. Bunker Ph.D.
> Professor of Psychology Emerita
> The University at Buffalo
> 117 Highland Avenue
> Buffalo, NY 14222
> 716-881-2166
>
> On Fri 04/20/12? 5:14 PM , "Harrison Owen" hhowen at verizon.net sent:
> > Barry - Just tell Arthur V. that he is absolutely correct. But it is
> > better than that! Not only is Open Space "academically invalid" - it
> > couldn't possibly work, and violates all known principles and
> > practices of management and meeting management. Definitely a No-No!
> > But I think all this says much more about Academe than it does about
> > Open Space, which as we all know - works every time, despite the fact
> > that it is illegal, immoral and fattening - to say nothing of being
> > contrary to the best management principles, etc, etc.?
> > You can quote me.
> > ho
> > Harrison Owen
> >
> > 7808 River Falls Dr.
> >
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> > FROM: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> > [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] ON BEHALF OF Barry
> > Owen
> > SENT: Friday, April 20, 2012 11:55 AM
> > TO: oslist; vasconcelos at alum.mit.edu
> > SUBJECT: [OSList] "Academic Validity?"
> > Hi Folks,
> > I know this is not the first time this question has surfaced.
> > Who out there (in here) has some good stuff to share?
> > This "academic validity" question boggles my mind
> > The message initially came through the Open Space facebook page
> > J ARTHUR VASCONCELOS [2]
> >
> > Hi! I was questioned about the use of OS in research. I was planning
> > on using OS for a section of my thesis but got criticized for "OS not
> > having academic validity" and "has never been used in research" and
> > "it is not a recognized research method like a focus group or delphi
> > pannel". HELP! Any info about using OS in academia? Thank you!?
> >
> >
> >
> > Links:
> > ------
> > [1]
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> > [2] http://www.facebook.com/jarthur.vasconcelos
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> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:22:23 -0400
> From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net>
> To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
>        <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: [OSList] Open Space...and Beyond
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> Josse Bass (publisher) is doing a new book and they asked me to contribute
> a
> chapter on Open Space. I agreed but noted that I could hardly provide an
> unbiased account. They seem ready to proceed, regardless. I shared the
> paper
> with some of our good friends and colleagues, and they suggested that
> others
> (namely you all on OSLIST) might be interested, and so I have put it up on
> www.openspaceworld.com  in the section called "Papers" for easy access. I
> don't think you will find anything new, but it is a good summary, I am
> told.
> If interested go to -
>
>
>
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> http://openspaceworld.com/Open%20Space%20!%20and%20BeyondHarrison%20Owen%20I
> n%20the%20fall%20of%201995.pdf<http://openspaceworld.com/Open%20Space%20%21%20and%20BeyondHarrison%20Owen%20I%0An%20the%20fall%20of%201995.pdf>
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> Harrison
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> Harrison Owen
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> 7808 River Falls Dr.
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> USA
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> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
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> Camden, Maine 20854
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> Phone 301-365-2093
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:28:07 -0400
> From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net>
> To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
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> Oh Yes. I promised the book's editors that I would give proper attribution
> if I were to share the paper prior to publication. So herewith -
>
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> The paper will appear as a chapter in an upcoming Josse Bass book authored
> by Carter, Louis. Sullivan,Roland. Goldsmith, Marshall. Change Champions
> Fieldguide, 2012, New York: Jossey Bass Pfeiffer and Best Practice
> Institute.
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> Harrison
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> Harrison Owen
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> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> USA
>
>
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>
> Camden, Maine 20854
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>
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> Phone 301-365-2093
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> (summer)  207-763-3261
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> www.openspaceworld.com
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> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Harrison Owen
> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 11:22 AM
> To: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
> Subject: [OSList] Open Space...and Beyond
>
>
>
> Josse Bass (publisher) is doing a new book and they asked me to contribute
> a
> chapter on Open Space. I agreed but noted that I could hardly provide an
> unbiased account. They seem ready to proceed, regardless. I shared the
> paper
> with some of our good friends and colleagues, and they suggested that
> others
> (namely you all on OSLIST) might be interested, and so I have put it up on
> www.openspaceworld.com  in the section called "Papers" for easy access. I
> don't think you will find anything new, but it is a good summary, I am
> told.
> If interested go to -
>
>
>
>
> http://openspaceworld.com/Open%20Space%20!%20and%20BeyondHarrison%20Owen%20I
> n%20the%20fall%20of%201995.pdf<http://openspaceworld.com/Open%20Space%20%21%20and%20BeyondHarrison%20Owen%20I%0An%20the%20fall%20of%201995.pdf>
>
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> Harrison
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> Harrison Owen
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> 7808 River Falls Dr.
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> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> USA
>
>
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>
> Camden, Maine 20854
>
>
>
> Phone 301-365-2093
>
> (summer)  207-763-3261
>
>
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> www.openspaceworld.com
>
> www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
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