[OSList] This list serve is antiquated big time
Tony Budak
tonybudak at tbmw.org
Fri Jan 29 11:47:57 PST 2021
Of course that is a great idea, Thanks Steve.
On 1/29/2021 1:32 PM, Steve Holyer via OSList wrote:
>
> Yep. This OSList works for me. Adding my thanks to the past
> moderators, the contributors, and Harold.
>
> And I’m glad the openness is in keeping with this community. I
> wouldn’t change it.
>
> And I was online back in the 80s and for sure then 90s when listservs
> were all the rage.
>
> i wonder if the retro look and feel and operation of a mailing list is
> something of a barrier to entry for folks who never participated in a
> listserv discussion—or who prefer a new fangled something or other? I
> wouldn’t change it, but could we find a welcoming (and open) way to
> invite more people? I don’t know what that is. Maybe just a youtube
> video on how to connect with the community via the mailing list. (Even
> having Harrison’s response on the history and openness of the list
> helps me connect to the list and not be put off by it. I appreciate it
> more after reading this thread, and I appreciate it before. So maybe
> just a way to to pin Harrisons words to the signup and archive page
> would be useful. I think just pinning a long threaded list of messages
> to include this whole thread wouldn’t really speak to the people who
> might be put off by long list of mails in a thread already :D — but a
> summary, or a video with some choice quotes could be helpful! ;)
>
> I’m not passionate enough about this issue to be the person to find an
> answer. (Or is it not responsible enough to stick around on this
> question.) Don’t want to put more load on Harold either.
>
> And I think this is a question worth asking at least, to see how it’s
> answered.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve
>
> On 29 Jan 2021, at 17:59, Tony Budak via OSList wrote:
>
> No Not antiquated. I could not agree more with Harrison. This is a
> very effective list serve. Thank you again, Harrison.
>
> Cheers,
> Tony
>
> On 1/29/2021 11:53 AM, Harrison Owen SR via OSList wrote:
> Oh Yes... OSLIST started as a phone operated bulletin board. And for
> sure it doesn't exist in 4 colors/touch screen. BUT it has probably
> existed as long or longer than any competitors, is searchable, carries
> the thinking/sweat/arguments of those who discovered living in Open
> Space (that would be 1000's) and Harold (the most recent curator) has
> done a marvelous job. Thanks. Could it be better? Sure... but it has
> worked for ? (20??)years! And please don't fix it if it ain't broke...
>
> ho
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:39 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> wrote:
> Michael,
>
> Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And I also know I could do
> better. Thank you as well for helping out with the admin work for the
> OSList.
>
> I couldn't see an easy way to see the count via the Archives. But
> looking at my own stash of the emails, I counted 42.9k messages since
> the first one in December of 1996 back in the old Boise State
> University LISTSERV (OSLIST at IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU
> <mailto:OSLIST at IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>) days.
>
> |Harold |
>
> On 1/28/21 4:48 PM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:
> Great job, and big thanks Harold. You’re the only reason the list
> still exists in this open, free, independent way.
>
> And just so everyone can notice the scale of the thing, how many
> messages have we posted here so far?
>
> Cuz it’s not just about updating or swapping email tools, folks.
> Harold has managed this so that we still have and can search every
> message ever sent through the list. Amazing!
>
> I know we passed 30000 some time ago but couldn’t guess what the total
> is now. I can’t figure where to look it up anymore. Do you have that
> number, Harold?
>
> Thanks, Michael
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 08:40 Birgitt Williams via OSList
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> wrote:
> Thank you Harold,
> I love the simplicity that has been maintained for our email list, and
> the independence to the extent possible for us to be in a platform
> that supports us. Thank you for your work on this over many years, and
> also to those who preceded you.
>
> A super super simple way to pay attention to the list, and to follow
> threads really really easily is to use the GREAT feature of the
> archives http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
> <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>. Every
> post gets placed in the archives, the archives are searchable. When
> something that is posted catches my attention, it is easy to go to the
> archives to see what I may have missed in the thread and also
> simultaneously by topic access what has been discussed in relation to
> the topic over the years.
>
> in genuine contact,
> Birgitt
>
> Picture
>
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> Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership
> development, and the power of nourishing a culture of leadership.
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>
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> On 29 Jan 2021, at 18:27, info via OSList wrote:
>
> Hear hear.
> Love it!
> Tonnie
>
>
>
> Verzonden vanaf mijn Galaxy
>
>
> -------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------
> Van: Tony Budak via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Datum: 29-01-2021 17:59 (GMT+01:00)
> Aan: Harrison Owen SR via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Cc: Tony Budak <tonybudak at tbmw.org>
> Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] This list serve is antiquated big time
>
> No Not antiquated. I could not agree more with Harrison. This is a
> very effective list serve. Thank you again, Harrison.
>
> Cheers,
> Tony
>
> On 1/29/2021 11:53 AM, Harrison Owen SR via OSList wrote:
>> Oh Yes... OSLIST started as a phone operated bulletin board. And
>> for sure it doesn't exist in 4 colors/touch screen. BUT it has
>> probably existed as long or longer than any competitors, is
>> searchable, carries the thinking/sweat/arguments of those who
>> discovered living in Open Space (that would be 1000's) and Harold
>> (the most recent curator) has done a marvelous job. Thanks. Could
>> it be better? Sure... but it has worked for ? (20??)years! And
>> please don't fix it if it ain't broke...
>>
>> ho
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:39 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And I also know I could
>> do better. Thank you as well for helping out with the admin
>> work for the OSList.
>>
>> I couldn't see an easy way to see the count via the Archives.
>> But looking at my own stash of the emails, I counted 42.9k
>> messages since the first one in December of 1996 back in the
>> old Boise State University LISTSERV (OSLIST at IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU
>> <mailto:OSLIST at IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>) days.
>>
>> Harold
>>
>> On 1/28/21 4:48 PM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:
>>> Great job, and big thanks Harold. You’re the only reason the
>>> list still exists in this open, free, independent way.
>>>
>>> And just so everyone can notice the scale of the thing, how
>>> many messages have we posted here so far?
>>>
>>> Cuz it’s not just about updating or swapping email tools,
>>> folks. Harold has managed this so that we still have and can
>>> search every message ever sent through the list. Amazing!
>>>
>>> I know we passed 30000 some time ago but couldn’t guess what
>>> the total is now. I can’t figure where to look it up
>>> anymore. Do you have that number, Harold?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 08:40 Birgitt Williams via OSList
>>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you Harold,
>>> I love the simplicity that has been maintained for our
>>> email list, and the independence to the extent possible
>>> for us to be in a platform that supports us. Thank you
>>> for your work on this over many years, and also to those
>>> who preceded you.
>>>
>>> A super super simple way to pay attention to the list,
>>> and to follow threads really really easily is to use the
>>> GREAT feature of the archives
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org
>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>.
>>> Every post gets placed in the archives, the archives are
>>> searchable. When something that is posted catches my
>>> attention, it is easy to go to the archives to see what
>>> I may have missed in the thread and also simultaneously
>>> by topic access what has been discussed in relation to
>>> the topic over the years.
>>>
>>> in genuine contact,
>>> Birgitt
>>>
>>> Picture*
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>> *Birgitt Williams*
>>> *Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and
>>> consultants *
>>> *Specialist in organizational and systemic
>>> transformation, leadership development, and the power of
>>> nourishing a culture of leadership.*
>>> www.dalarinternational.com
>>> <http://www.dalarinternational.com>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Harold Shinsato
>> harold at shinsato.com <mailto:harold at shinsato.com>
>> https://shinsato.com <https://shinsato.com>
>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush>
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