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<p>Of course that is a great idea, Thanks Steve.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/29/2021 1:32 PM, Steve Holyer via
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<p dir="auto">Yep. This OSList works for me. Adding my thanks
to the past moderators, the contributors, and Harold.</p>
<p dir="auto">And I’m glad the openness is in keeping with
this community. I wouldn’t change it.</p>
<p dir="auto">And I was online back in the 80s and for sure
then 90s when listservs were all the rage.</p>
<p dir="auto">i wonder if the retro look and feel and
operation of a mailing list is something of a barrier to
entry for folks who never participated in a listserv
discussion—or who prefer a new fangled something or other? I
wouldn’t change it, but could we find a welcoming (and open)
way to invite more people? I don’t know what that is. Maybe
just a youtube video on how to connect with the community
via the mailing list. (Even having Harrison’s response on
the history and openness of the list helps me connect to the
list and not be put off by it. I appreciate it more after
reading this thread, and I appreciate it before. So maybe
just a way to to pin Harrisons words to the signup and
archive page would be useful. I think just pinning a long
threaded list of messages to include this whole thread
wouldn’t really speak to the people who might be put off by
long list of mails in a thread already :D — but a summary,
or a video with some choice quotes could be helpful! ;)</p>
<p dir="auto">I’m not passionate enough about this issue to be
the person to find an answer. (Or is it not responsible
enough to stick around on this question.) Don’t want to put
more load on Harold either.</p>
<p dir="auto">And I think this is a question worth asking at
least, to see how it’s answered.</p>
<p dir="auto">Cheers,<br>
Steve</p>
<p dir="auto">On 29 Jan 2021, at 17:59, Tony Budak via OSList
wrote:</p>
<p dir="auto">No Not antiquated. I could not agree more with
Harrison. This is a very effective list serve. Thank you
again, Harrison.</p>
<p dir="auto">Cheers,<br>
Tony</p>
<p dir="auto">On 1/29/2021 11:53 AM, Harrison Owen SR via
OSList wrote:<br>
Oh Yes... OSLIST started as a phone operated bulletin board.
And for sure it doesn't exist in 4 colors/touch screen. BUT
it has probably existed as long or longer than any
competitors, is searchable, carries the
thinking/sweat/arguments of those who discovered living in
Open Space (that would be 1000's) and Harold (the most
recent curator) has done a marvelous job. Thanks. Could it
be better? Sure... but it has worked for ? (20??)years! And
please don't fix it if it ain't broke...</p>
<p dir="auto">ho</p>
<p dir="auto">On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:39 AM Harold Shinsato
via OSList <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>
wrote:<br>
Michael,</p>
<p dir="auto">Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And I also
know I could do better. Thank you as well for helping out
with the admin work for the OSList.</p>
<p dir="auto">I couldn't see an easy way to see the count via
the Archives. But looking at my own stash of the emails, I
counted 42.9k messages since the first one in December of
1996 back in the old Boise State University LISTSERV (<a
href="mailto:OSLIST@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU"
moz-do-not-send="true">OSLIST@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU</a>) days.</p>
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<p dir="auto">On 1/28/21 4:48 PM, Michael Herman via OSList
wrote:<br>
Great job, and big thanks Harold. You’re the only reason the
list still exists in this open, free, independent way.</p>
<p dir="auto">And just so everyone can notice the scale of the
thing, how many messages have we posted here so far?</p>
<p dir="auto">Cuz it’s not just about updating or swapping
email tools, folks. Harold has managed this so that we still
have and can search every message ever sent through the
list. Amazing!</p>
<p dir="auto">I know we passed 30000 some time ago but
couldn’t guess what the total is now. I can’t figure where
to look it up anymore. Do you have that number, Harold?</p>
<p dir="auto">Thanks, Michael</p>
<p dir="auto">On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 08:40 Birgitt Williams
via OSList <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>
wrote:<br>
Thank you Harold,<br>
I love the simplicity that has been maintained for our email
list, and the independence to the extent possible for us to
be in a platform that supports us. Thank you for your work
on this over many years, and also to those who preceded you.</p>
<p dir="auto">A super super simple way to pay attention to the
list, and to follow threads really really easily is to use
the GREAT feature of the archives <a
href="http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>.
Every post gets placed in the archives, the archives are
searchable. When something that is posted catches my
attention, it is easy to go to the archives to see what I
may have missed in the thread and also simultaneously by
topic access what has been discussed in relation to the
topic over the years.</p>
<p dir="auto">in genuine contact,<br>
Birgitt</p>
<p dir="auto">Picture</p>
<p dir="auto">Birgitt Williams<br>
Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants<br>
Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation,
leadership development, and the power of nourishing a
culture of leadership.<br>
<a href="http://www.dalarinternational.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">www.dalarinternational.com</a></p>
<p dir="auto">-- <br>
Harold Shinsato<br>
<a href="mailto:harold@shinsato.com" moz-do-not-send="true">harold@shinsato.com</a><br>
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<p dir="auto">On 29 Jan 2021, at 18:27, info via OSList wrote:</p>
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<div dir="auto">Hear hear. </div>
<div dir="auto">Love it!</div>
<div dir="auto">Tonnie</div>
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<div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Verzonden
vanaf mijn Galaxy</div>
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<div>-------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------</div>
<div>Van: Tony Budak via OSList
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<div>Datum: 29-01-2021 17:59 (GMT+01:00) </div>
<div>Aan: Harrison Owen SR via OSList
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"><oslist@lists.openspacetech.org></a> </div>
<div>Cc: Tony Budak <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tonybudak@tbmw.org"><tonybudak@tbmw.org></a> </div>
<div>Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] This list serve is
antiquated big time </div>
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<p>No Not antiquated. I could not agree more with
Harrison. This is a very effective list serve. Thank you
again, Harrison.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br>
Tony<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/29/2021 11:53 AM,
Harrison Owen SR via OSList wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Oh Yes... OSLIST started as a phone
operated bulletin board. And for sure it doesn't exist
in 4 colors/touch screen. BUT it has probably existed
as long or longer than any competitors, is searchable,
carries the thinking/sweat/arguments of those who
discovered living in Open Space (that would be 1000's)
and Harold (the most recent curator) has done a
marvelous job. Thanks. Could it be better? Sure... but
it has worked for ? (20??)years! And please don't fix
it if it ain't broke...
<div><br>
</div>
<div>ho</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Fri, Jan 29, 2021
at 11:39 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList <<a
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"
class="gmail_quote">
<div> Michael,<br>
<br>
Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And I also
know I could do better. Thank you as well for
helping out with the admin work for the OSList.<br>
<br>
I couldn't see an easy way to see the count via
the Archives. But looking at my own stash of the
emails, I counted 42.9k messages since the first
one in December of 1996 back in the old Boise
State University LISTSERV (<a
href="mailto:OSLIST@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU"
moz-do-not-send="true">OSLIST@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU</a>)
days.<br>
<br>
Harold<br>
<br>
<div>On 1/28/21 4:48 PM, Michael Herman via OSList
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="auto">Great job, and big thanks
Harold. You’re the only reason the list still
exists in this open, free, independent way. </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">And just so everyone can notice
the scale of the thing, how many messages have
we posted here so far? </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Cuz it’s not just about updating
or swapping email tools, folks. Harold has
managed this so that we still have and can
search every message ever sent through the
list. Amazing!</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I know we passed 30000 some time
ago but couldn’t guess what the total is now.
I can’t figure where to look it up anymore. Do
you have that number, Harold?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Thanks, Michael </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu,
Jan 28, 2021 at 08:40 Birgitt Williams via
OSList <<a
href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
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<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"
class="gmail_default">Thank you
Harold,</div>
<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"
class="gmail_default">I love the
simplicity that has been maintained
for our email list, and the
independence to the extent possible
for us to be in a platform that
supports us. Thank you for your work
on this over many years, and also to
those who preceded you.</div>
<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"
class="gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"
class="gmail_default">A super super
simple way to pay attention to the
list, and to follow threads really
really easily is to use the GREAT
feature of the archives <a
style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"
rel="noreferrer"
href="http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>.
Every post gets placed in the
archives, the archives are searchable.
When something that is posted catches
my attention, it is easy to go to the
archives to see what I may have missed
in the thread and also simultaneously
by topic access what has been
discussed in relation to the topic
over the years. </div>
<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"
class="gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"
class="gmail_default">in genuine
contact,</div>
<div
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"
class="gmail_default">Birgitt</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"
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Williams</b></span></div>
<div><span
style="font-size:12.8px"><b>Senior
consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants </b></span></div>
<div><span
style="font-size:12.8px"><b>Specialist
in
organizational
and systemic
transformation,
leadership
development,
and the power
of nourishing
a culture of
leadership.</b></span></div>
<div><a
href="http://www.dalarinternational.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">www.dalarinternational.com</a> </div>
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Harold Shinsato<br>
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moz-do-not-send="true">harold@shinsato.com</a><br>
<a href="https://shinsato.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://shinsato.com</a><br>
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