[OSList] This list serve is antiquated big time
Steve Holyer
coach at steveholyer.com
Sat Jan 30 05:38:43 PST 2021
Yes!
I was also thinking there was some really useful or important stuff on
the FAQ that Peggy posted and you followed up on in another thread just
now(ish). The FAQ had escaped my notice, or more likely fled my memory,
til now.
Will spend some time highlighting things that strike me in the next
couple days. (The weekend chores are pressing now.)
On 29 Jan 2021, at 20:44, Michael Herman wrote:
> before you run off, steve... have you seen openspaceworld.org/oslist?
> anything there strike you as more important or useful than the rest,
> for
> the purpose you've framed, video or otherwise?
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> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:32 AM Steve Holyer via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Yep. This OSList works for me. Adding my thanks to the past
>> moderators,
>> the contributors, and Harold.
>>
>> And I’m glad the openness is in keeping with this community. I
>> wouldn’t
>> change it.
>>
>> And I was online back in the 80s and for sure then 90s when listservs
>> were
>> all the rage.
>>
>> i wonder if the retro look and feel and operation of a mailing list
>> is
>> something of a barrier to entry for folks who never participated in a
>> listserv discussion—or who prefer a new fangled something or other?
>> I
>> wouldn’t change it, but could we find a welcoming (and open) way to
>> invite
>> more people? I don’t know what that is. Maybe just a youtube video
>> on how
>> to connect with the community via the mailing list. (Even having
>> Harrison’s
>> response on the history and openness of the list helps me connect to
>> the
>> list and not be put off by it. I appreciate it more after reading
>> this
>> thread, and I appreciate it before. So maybe just a way to to pin
>> Harrisons
>> words to the signup and archive page would be useful. I think just
>> pinning
>> a long threaded list of messages to include this whole thread
>> wouldn’t
>> really speak to the people who might be put off by long list of mails
>> in a
>> thread already :D — but a summary, or a video with some choice
>> quotes could
>> be helpful! ;)
>>
>> I’m not passionate enough about this issue to be the person to find
>> an
>> answer. (Or is it not responsible enough to stick around on this
>> question.)
>> Don’t want to put more load on Harold either.
>>
>> And I think this is a question worth asking at least, to see how
>> it’s
>> answered.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Steve
>>
>> On 29 Jan 2021, at 17:59, Tony Budak via OSList wrote:
>>
>> No Not antiquated. I could not agree more with Harrison. This is a
>> very
>> effective list serve. Thank you again, Harrison.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tony
>>
>> On 1/29/2021 11:53 AM, Harrison Owen SR via OSList wrote:
>> Oh Yes... OSLIST started as a phone operated bulletin board. And for
>> sure
>> it doesn't exist in 4 colors/touch screen. BUT it has probably
>> existed as
>> long or longer than any competitors, is searchable, carries the
>> thinking/sweat/arguments of those who discovered living in Open Space
>> (that
>> would be 1000's) and Harold (the most recent curator) has done a
>> marvelous
>> job. Thanks. Could it be better? Sure... but it has worked for ?
>> (20??)years! And please don't fix it if it ain't broke...
>>
>> ho
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:39 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org wrote:
>> Michael,
>>
>> Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And I also know I could do
>> better.
>> Thank you as well for helping out with the admin work for the OSList.
>>
>> I couldn't see an easy way to see the count via the Archives. But
>> looking
>> at my own stash of the emails, I counted 42.9k messages since the
>> first one
>> in December of 1996 back in the old Boise State University LISTSERV (
>> OSLIST at IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU) days.
>>
>> Harold
>>
>> On 1/28/21 4:48 PM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:
>> Great job, and big thanks Harold. You’re the only reason the list
>> still
>> exists in this open, free, independent way.
>>
>> And just so everyone can notice the scale of the thing, how many
>> messages
>> have we posted here so far?
>>
>> Cuz it’s not just about updating or swapping email tools, folks.
>> Harold
>> has managed this so that we still have and can search every message
>> ever
>> sent through the list. Amazing!
>>
>> I know we passed 30000 some time ago but couldn’t guess what the
>> total is
>> now. I can’t figure where to look it up anymore. Do you have that
>> number,
>> Harold?
>>
>> Thanks, Michael
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 08:40 Birgitt Williams via OSList
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org wrote:
>> Thank you Harold,
>> I love the simplicity that has been maintained for our email list,
>> and the
>> independence to the extent possible for us to be in a platform that
>> supports us. Thank you for your work on this over many years, and
>> also to
>> those who preceded you.
>>
>> A super super simple way to pay attention to the list, and to follow
>> threads really really easily is to use the GREAT feature of the
>> archives
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org. Every
>> post
>> gets placed in the archives, the archives are searchable. When
>> something
>> that is posted catches my attention, it is easy to go to the archives
>> to
>> see what I may have missed in the thread and also simultaneously by
>> topic
>> access what has been discussed in relation to the topic over the
>> years.
>>
>> in genuine contact,
>> Birgitt
>>
>> Picture
>>
>> Birgitt Williams
>> Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants
>> Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership
>> development, and the power of nourishing a culture of leadership.
>> www.dalarinternational.com
>>
>> --
>> Harold Shinsato
>> harold at shinsato.com
>> https://shinsato.com
>> twitter: @hajush
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>> On 29 Jan 2021, at 18:27, info via OSList wrote:
>>
>> Hear hear.
>> Love it!
>> Tonnie
>>
>>
>>
>> Verzonden vanaf mijn Galaxy
>>
>>
>> -------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------
>> Van: Tony Budak via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> Datum: 29-01-2021 17:59 (GMT+01:00)
>> Aan: Harrison Owen SR via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> Cc: Tony Budak <tonybudak at tbmw.org>
>> Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] This list serve is antiquated big time
>>
>> No Not antiquated. I could not agree more with Harrison. This is a
>> very
>> effective list serve. Thank you again, Harrison.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tony
>> On 1/29/2021 11:53 AM, Harrison Owen SR via OSList wrote:
>>
>> Oh Yes... OSLIST started as a phone operated bulletin board. And for
>> sure
>> it doesn't exist in 4 colors/touch screen. BUT it has probably
>> existed as
>> long or longer than any competitors, is searchable, carries the
>> thinking/sweat/arguments of those who discovered living in Open Space
>> (that
>> would be 1000's) and Harold (the most recent curator) has done a
>> marvelous job. Thanks. Could it be better? Sure... but it has worked
>> for ?
>> (20??)years! And please don't fix it if it ain't broke...
>>
>> ho
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:39 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Michael,
>>>
>>> Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And I also know I could do
>>> better.
>>> Thank you as well for helping out with the admin work for the
>>> OSList.
>>>
>>> I couldn't see an easy way to see the count via the Archives. But
>>> looking
>>> at my own stash of the emails, I counted 42.9k messages since the
>>> first one
>>> in December of 1996 back in the old Boise State University LISTSERV
>>> (
>>> OSLIST at IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU) days.
>>>
>>> Harold
>>>
>>> On 1/28/21 4:48 PM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:
>>>
>>> Great job, and big thanks Harold. You’re the only reason the list
>>> still
>>> exists in this open, free, independent way.
>>>
>>> And just so everyone can notice the scale of the thing, how many
>>> messages
>>> have we posted here so far?
>>>
>>> Cuz it’s not just about updating or swapping email tools, folks.
>>> Harold
>>> has managed this so that we still have and can search every message
>>> ever
>>> sent through the list. Amazing!
>>>
>>> I know we passed 30000 some time ago but couldn’t guess what the
>>> total is
>>> now. I can’t figure where to look it up anymore. Do you have that
>>> number,
>>> Harold?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 08:40 Birgitt Williams via OSList <
>>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Harold,
>>>> I love the simplicity that has been maintained for our email list,
>>>> and
>>>> the independence to the extent possible for us to be in a platform
>>>> that
>>>> supports us. Thank you for your work on this over many years, and
>>>> also to
>>>> those who preceded you.
>>>>
>>>> A super super simple way to pay attention to the list, and to
>>>> follow
>>>> threads really really easily is to use the GREAT feature of the
>>>> archives
>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org. Every
>>>> post
>>>> gets placed in the archives, the archives are searchable. When
>>>> something
>>>> that is posted catches my attention, it is easy to go to the
>>>> archives to
>>>> see what I may have missed in the thread and also simultaneously by
>>>> topic
>>>> access what has been discussed in relation to the topic over the
>>>> years.
>>>>
>>>> in genuine contact,
>>>> Birgitt
>>>>
>>>> [image: Picture]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Birgitt Williams*
>>>> *Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants *
>>>> *Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation,
>>>> leadership
>>>> development, and the power of nourishing a culture of leadership.*
>>>> www.dalarinternational.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Harold Shinsato
>>> harold at shinsato.com
>>> https://shinsato.com
>>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush>
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>> --
>> Stay Safe & Well, Tony Budak
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>> attending gatherings, providing services, accrues valuable
>> Learning Time Credits in the Time to Learn Network.
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