[OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

Jake Yeager jacob.yeager at gmail.com
Sat Feb 8 15:28:26 PST 2020


Hey Michael Pannwitz,

I had Michael Herman in mind, but I'd love to extend the question to
everyone.

Thanks for the question. :)

Jake


________________

When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
you will be free of problems.
 - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>


On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 6:16 PM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Jake,
> which Michael are your thinking of?
> mmp
>
> Am 08.02.2020 um 18:13 schrieb Jake Yeager via OSList:
> > Michael and Chris - do you allot time to review the notes prior to
> > organizing them?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:14 AM Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> > <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Again, a bunch of great ideas and perspectives on this thread.
> >
> >     After considering it more, I am going to propose to the sponsor that
> >     we adjust our convergence process. Per Michael and Chris's
> >     suggestions, I will propose that participants organize the notes
> >     into themes. This will assist meaning-making and pattern
> >     recognition. Then, I will invite participants to vote on the themes
> >     that they would like to see turned into OKRs. The top 3 get turned
> >     into OKRs using the iterative sprints.
> >
> >     This approach seems more organic and simple. It also seems to flow
> >     better, and it requires less facilitation.
> >
> >     I also like Ilan's ideas about structuring the notes towards the
> >     outcomes. I may also incorporate that.
> >
> >     Thanks again!
> >
> >     ________________
> >
> >     When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> >     and you will be free of problems.
> >       - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >
> >
> >     On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:42 AM Ilan Kirschenbaum
> >     <ilan at practical-agile.com <mailto:ilan at practical-agile.com>> wrote:
> >
> >         Extending this to an Open Space format, let the structure guide
> >         the outcomes.
> >         For example, have the session summary sheets have, in addition
> >         to topic, convener and participants, titles for Main Objective
> >         and for Key Results. You may wish to add (see if you can find
> >         about 3 SMART key results) - if you want to guide participants
> >         towards the OKRs concept. That said with a invitation to favor
> >         the more open and the less prescriptive approach.
> >
> >         As for the initiatives session, one thing we had at a client is
> >         to prepare a large board with a table having tall rubrics for Os
> >         on the left side, and wider and shorter rubrics for KRs in the
> >         right.
> >         During this session, participants - conveners and other - were
> >         invited to place their Os and KRs in the board and share what
> >         they found passion and responsibility for to take forward.
> >         In effect, that way self-organized teams were formed to make
> >         these initiatives happen.
> >
> >
> >
> >         On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 6:15 Chris Corrigan via OSList
> >         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >         <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
> >
> >             No...  If the sponsor already knows which OKR’s will matter,
> >             then that would be “pre-set” answers, and I would forget
> >             about open space. But specifying that “we are trying to
> >             generate new OKRs” is a fine invitation, because it’s open
> >             and the sponsor should be generally curious about what will
> >             come out of it and how results will be used.
> >
> >             Chris
> >
> >>             On Feb 6, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList
> >>             <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >>             <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
> >>
> >>             Reviewing again this article
> >>             <
> https://www.openspaceworld.org/files/tmnfiles/choosingopenspace(Bolton).html
> >
> >>             by Diane Blair. She mentions two critical success factors
> >>             for Open Space. One is that the sponsor does not have
> >>             "pre-set outcomes." Would generating OKRs be considered a
> >>             pre-set outcome you think?
> >>             ________________
> >>
> >>             When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
> >>             once again, and you will be free of problems.
> >>              - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >>
> >>
> >>             On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:05 PM Jake Yeager
> >>             <jacob.yeager at gmail.com <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>
> >>             wrote:
> >>
> >>                 Oops. It's 1.5 days I mean.
> >>                 ________________
> >>
> >>                 When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will
> >>                 shine once again, and you will be free of problems.
> >>                  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >>
> >>
> >>                 On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM Jake Yeager
> >>                 <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> >>                 <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>                     Thank you everyone for your feedback! It is much
> >>                     welcomed, and you have provided a lot to chew on.
> >>                     It's such a treat to hear from experienced
> >>                     practitioners.
> >>
> >>                     Some info:
> >>
> >>                       * I have one day for the event
> >>                       * There are about 30 participants: assistant
> >>                         managers to the SVP
> >>                       * Objectives are strategic initiatives, and key
> >>                         results are how you measure your success
> >>                       * We need to define both objectives and key
> >>                         results by the end of the day: so, it's a
> >>                         tight time-frame
> >>
> >>                     At this moment, I feel that I am too far down the
> >>                     line with the sponsor to switch up the schedule
> >>                     too much.
> >>
> >>                     I learned 25/10 Crowdsourcing in my Open Space
> >>                     Genuine Contact training for formulating
> >>                     recommendations and have found it to work well.
> >>                     That said, I am open to learning how to let go of
> >>                     control even more and will explore the many
> >>                     options provided on this thread for future events.
> >>                     I'm definitely open to learning more about how I
> >>                     can work "less hard" per Michael Pannwitz's
> >>                     comment. :)
> >>
> >>                     Also, I have incorporated some of your suggestions
> >>                     in my "convergence" design:
> >>
> >>                       * After the group generates the top 10 draft
> >>                         objectives from 25/10 Crowdsourcing, I will
> >>                         invite the group to arrange them into 3 themes
> >>                         rather than voting on them.
> >>                       * I will invite self-organization to refine the
> >>                         themes in parallel. The group members will be
> >>                         able to choose which theme(s) they want to
> >>                         refine (or not) in a series of sprints with
> >>                         sprint reviews. The same setup with key results.
> >>
> >>                     Learning as I go as we all do. :)
> >>
> >>                     Much love,
> >>                     Jake
> >>
> >>
> >>                     ________________
> >>
> >>                     When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will
> >>                     shine once again, and you will be free of problems.
> >>                      - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> >>
> >>
> >>                     On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 6:14 PM Thomas Herrmann
> >>                     <thomas at openspaceconsulting.com
> >>                     <mailto:thomas at openspaceconsulting.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>                         Dear Jake____
> >>
> >>                         I don’t fully understand, of course, but am
> >>                         wondering what the purpose/expected outcome is
> >>                         for this development process and also there
> >>                         must be no more than 3 O’s? I understand they
> >>                         are not yet defined, but should be
> >>                         identified/agreed on in the OST?____
> >>
> >>                         My experience from similar situations is that
> >>                         it is not that well thought through or that
> >>                         the opportunities at hand if choosing to use
> >>                         OST are not fully understood.____
> >>
> >>                         Good night from Sweden____
> >>
> >>                         Thomas Herrmann____
> >>
> >>                         __ __
> >>
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> >>
> >>                         *För *Jake Yeager via OSList
> >>                         *Skickat:* den 5 februari 2020 00:57
> >>                         *Till:* World wide Open Space Technology email
> >>                         list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >>                         <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> >>                         *Kopia:* Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> >>                         <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>
> >>                         *Ämne:* [OSList] From Open Space to objectives
> >>                         and key results (OKRs)?____
> >>
> >>                         __ __
> >>
> >>                         Hi folks,____
> >>
> >>                         __ __
> >>
> >>                         Anyone have experience using Open Space to
> >>                         develop OKRs with a group?____
> >>
> >>                         __ __
> >>
> >>                         I am facilitating an Open Space event in late
> >>                         February. I plan to use the 25/10
> >>                         Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft
> >>                         objectives (O's) and then 1-2-4-All to develop
> >>                         the key results (KR's) for each objective. ____
> >>
> >>                         __ __
> >>
> >>                         The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives.
> >>                         It might get a little hairy if the clear
> >>                         cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater
> >>                         than 3. Guess I could use voting to narrow it
> >>                         down. Also, I am exploring if consent
> >>                         decision-making could be useful. The sponsor
> >>                         might need to make a final call on the top 3
> >>                         if the group is split.____
> >>
> >>                         __ __
> >>
> >>                         Thanks and much love,____
> >>
> >>                         Jake
> >>                         ____
> >>
> >>                         ____________________
> >>
> >>                         __ __
> >>
> >>                         When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart
> >>                         will shine once again, and you will be free of
> >>                         problems.____
> >>
> >>                          - Robert Adams
> >>                         <http://www.robert-adams.info/>____
> >>
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