<div dir="ltr">Hey Michael Pannwitz,<div><br></div><div>I had Michael Herman in mind, but I'd love to extend the question to everyone.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the question. :)</div><div><br></div><div>Jake</div><div><br></div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>________________</div><div><br></div><div>When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and you will be free of problems.</div><div> - <a href="http://www.robert-adams.info/" target="_blank">Robert Adams</a></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 6:16 PM Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Jake,<br>
which Michael are your thinking of?<br>
mmp<br>
<br>
Am 08.02.2020 um 18:13 schrieb Jake Yeager via OSList:<br>
> Michael and Chris - do you allot time to review the notes prior to <br>
> organizing them?<br>
> <br>
> Thanks<br>
> <br>
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:14 AM Jake Yeager <<a href="mailto:jacob.yeager@gmail.com" target="_blank">jacob.yeager@gmail.com</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jacob.yeager@gmail.com" target="_blank">jacob.yeager@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Again, a bunch of great ideas and perspectives on this thread.<br>
> <br>
> After considering it more, I am going to propose to the sponsor that<br>
> we adjust our convergence process. Per Michael and Chris's<br>
> suggestions, I will propose that participants organize the notes<br>
> into themes. This will assist meaning-making and pattern<br>
> recognition. Then, I will invite participants to vote on the themes<br>
> that they would like to see turned into OKRs. The top 3 get turned<br>
> into OKRs using the iterative sprints.<br>
> <br>
> This approach seems more organic and simple. It also seems to flow<br>
> better, and it requires less facilitation.<br>
> <br>
> I also like Ilan's ideas about structuring the notes towards the<br>
> outcomes. I may also incorporate that.<br>
> <br>
> Thanks again!<br>
> <br>
> ________________<br>
> <br>
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,<br>
> and you will be free of problems.<br>
> - Robert Adams <<a href="http://www.robert-adams.info/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.robert-adams.info/</a>><br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:42 AM Ilan Kirschenbaum<br>
> <<a href="mailto:ilan@practical-agile.com" target="_blank">ilan@practical-agile.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ilan@practical-agile.com" target="_blank">ilan@practical-agile.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Extending this to an Open Space format, let the structure guide<br>
> the outcomes.<br>
> For example, have the session summary sheets have, in addition<br>
> to topic, convener and participants, titles for Main Objective<br>
> and for Key Results. You may wish to add (see if you can find<br>
> about 3 SMART key results) - if you want to guide participants<br>
> towards the OKRs concept. That said with a invitation to favor<br>
> the more open and the less prescriptive approach.<br>
> <br>
> As for the initiatives session, one thing we had at a client is<br>
> to prepare a large board with a table having tall rubrics for Os<br>
> on the left side, and wider and shorter rubrics for KRs in the<br>
> right.<br>
> During this session, participants - conveners and other - were<br>
> invited to place their Os and KRs in the board and share what<br>
> they found passion and responsibility for to take forward.<br>
> In effect, that way self-organized teams were formed to make<br>
> these initiatives happen.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 6:15 Chris Corrigan via OSList<br>
> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> No... If the sponsor already knows which OKR’s will matter,<br>
> then that would be “pre-set” answers, and I would forget<br>
> about open space. But specifying that “we are trying to<br>
> generate new OKRs” is a fine invitation, because it’s open<br>
> and the sponsor should be generally curious about what will<br>
> come out of it and how results will be used.<br>
> <br>
> Chris<br>
> <br>
>> On Feb 6, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Reviewing again this article<br>
>> <<a href="https://www.openspaceworld.org/files/tmnfiles/choosingopenspace(Bolton).html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openspaceworld.org/files/tmnfiles/choosingopenspace(Bolton).html</a>><br>
>> by Diane Blair. She mentions two critical success factors<br>
>> for Open Space. One is that the sponsor does not have<br>
>> "pre-set outcomes." Would generating OKRs be considered a<br>
>> pre-set outcome you think?<br>
>> ________________<br>
>><br>
>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine<br>
>> once again, and you will be free of problems.<br>
>> - Robert Adams <<a href="http://www.robert-adams.info/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.robert-adams.info/</a>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:05 PM Jake Yeager<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:jacob.yeager@gmail.com" target="_blank">jacob.yeager@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jacob.yeager@gmail.com" target="_blank">jacob.yeager@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Oops. It's 1.5 days I mean.<br>
>> ________________<br>
>><br>
>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will<br>
>> shine once again, and you will be free of problems.<br>
>> - Robert Adams <<a href="http://www.robert-adams.info/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.robert-adams.info/</a>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM Jake Yeager<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:jacob.yeager@gmail.com" target="_blank">jacob.yeager@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jacob.yeager@gmail.com" target="_blank">jacob.yeager@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Thank you everyone for your feedback! It is much<br>
>> welcomed, and you have provided a lot to chew on.<br>
>> It's such a treat to hear from experienced<br>
>> practitioners.<br>
>><br>
>> Some info:<br>
>><br>
>> * I have one day for the event<br>
>> * There are about 30 participants: assistant<br>
>> managers to the SVP<br>
>> * Objectives are strategic initiatives, and key<br>
>> results are how you measure your success<br>
>> * We need to define both objectives and key<br>
>> results by the end of the day: so, it's a<br>
>> tight time-frame<br>
>><br>
>> At this moment, I feel that I am too far down the<br>
>> line with the sponsor to switch up the schedule<br>
>> too much.<br>
>><br>
>> I learned 25/10 Crowdsourcing in my Open Space<br>
>> Genuine Contact training for formulating<br>
>> recommendations and have found it to work well.<br>
>> That said, I am open to learning how to let go of<br>
>> control even more and will explore the many<br>
>> options provided on this thread for future events.<br>
>> I'm definitely open to learning more about how I<br>
>> can work "less hard" per Michael Pannwitz's<br>
>> comment. :)<br>
>><br>
>> Also, I have incorporated some of your suggestions<br>
>> in my "convergence" design:<br>
>><br>
>> * After the group generates the top 10 draft<br>
>> objectives from 25/10 Crowdsourcing, I will<br>
>> invite the group to arrange them into 3 themes<br>
>> rather than voting on them.<br>
>> * I will invite self-organization to refine the<br>
>> themes in parallel. The group members will be<br>
>> able to choose which theme(s) they want to<br>
>> refine (or not) in a series of sprints with<br>
>> sprint reviews. The same setup with key results.<br>
>><br>
>> Learning as I go as we all do. :)<br>
>><br>
>> Much love,<br>
>> Jake<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ________________<br>
>><br>
>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will<br>
>> shine once again, and you will be free of problems.<br>
>> - Robert Adams <<a href="http://www.robert-adams.info/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.robert-adams.info/</a>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 6:14 PM Thomas Herrmann<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:thomas@openspaceconsulting.com" target="_blank">thomas@openspaceconsulting.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:thomas@openspaceconsulting.com" target="_blank">thomas@openspaceconsulting.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Dear Jake____<br>
>><br>
>> I don’t fully understand, of course, but am<br>
>> wondering what the purpose/expected outcome is<br>
>> for this development process and also there<br>
>> must be no more than 3 O’s? I understand they<br>
>> are not yet defined, but should be<br>
>> identified/agreed on in the OST?____<br>
>><br>
>> My experience from similar situations is that<br>
>> it is not that well thought through or that<br>
>> the opportunities at hand if choosing to use<br>
>> OST are not fully understood.____<br>
>><br>
>> Good night from Sweden____<br>
>><br>
>> Thomas Herrmann____<br>
>><br>
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>> *Ämne:* [OSList] From Open Space to objectives<br>
>> and key results (OKRs)?____<br>
>><br>
>> __ __<br>
>><br>
>> Hi folks,____<br>
>><br>
>> __ __<br>
>><br>
>> Anyone have experience using Open Space to<br>
>> develop OKRs with a group?____<br>
>><br>
>> __ __<br>
>><br>
>> I am facilitating an Open Space event in late<br>
>> February. I plan to use the 25/10<br>
>> Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft<br>
>> objectives (O's) and then 1-2-4-All to develop<br>
>> the key results (KR's) for each objective. ____<br>
>><br>
>> __ __<br>
>><br>
>> The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives.<br>
>> It might get a little hairy if the clear<br>
>> cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater<br>
>> than 3. Guess I could use voting to narrow it<br>
>> down. Also, I am exploring if consent<br>
>> decision-making could be useful. The sponsor<br>
>> might need to make a final call on the top 3<br>
>> if the group is split.____<br>
>><br>
>> __ __<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks and much love,____<br>
>><br>
>> Jake<br>
>> ____<br>
>><br>
>> ____________________<br>
>><br>
>> __ __<br>
>><br>
>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart<br>
>> will shine once again, and you will be free of<br>
>> problems.____<br>
>><br>
>> - Robert Adams<br>
>> <<a href="http://www.robert-adams.info/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.robert-adams.info/</a>>____<br>
>><br>
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