[OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?
Michael M Pannwitz
mmpannwitz at gmail.com
Sat Feb 8 15:16:40 PST 2020
Jake,
which Michael are your thinking of?
mmp
Am 08.02.2020 um 18:13 schrieb Jake Yeager via OSList:
> Michael and Chris - do you allot time to review the notes prior to
> organizing them?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:14 AM Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
> <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Again, a bunch of great ideas and perspectives on this thread.
>
> After considering it more, I am going to propose to the sponsor that
> we adjust our convergence process. Per Michael and Chris's
> suggestions, I will propose that participants organize the notes
> into themes. This will assist meaning-making and pattern
> recognition. Then, I will invite participants to vote on the themes
> that they would like to see turned into OKRs. The top 3 get turned
> into OKRs using the iterative sprints.
>
> This approach seems more organic and simple. It also seems to flow
> better, and it requires less facilitation.
>
> I also like Ilan's ideas about structuring the notes towards the
> outcomes. I may also incorporate that.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> ________________
>
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
> and you will be free of problems.
> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:42 AM Ilan Kirschenbaum
> <ilan at practical-agile.com <mailto:ilan at practical-agile.com>> wrote:
>
> Extending this to an Open Space format, let the structure guide
> the outcomes.
> For example, have the session summary sheets have, in addition
> to topic, convener and participants, titles for Main Objective
> and for Key Results. You may wish to add (see if you can find
> about 3 SMART key results) - if you want to guide participants
> towards the OKRs concept. That said with a invitation to favor
> the more open and the less prescriptive approach.
>
> As for the initiatives session, one thing we had at a client is
> to prepare a large board with a table having tall rubrics for Os
> on the left side, and wider and shorter rubrics for KRs in the
> right.
> During this session, participants - conveners and other - were
> invited to place their Os and KRs in the board and share what
> they found passion and responsibility for to take forward.
> In effect, that way self-organized teams were formed to make
> these initiatives happen.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 6:15 Chris Corrigan via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>
> No... If the sponsor already knows which OKR’s will matter,
> then that would be “pre-set” answers, and I would forget
> about open space. But specifying that “we are trying to
> generate new OKRs” is a fine invitation, because it’s open
> and the sponsor should be generally curious about what will
> come out of it and how results will be used.
>
> Chris
>
>> On Feb 6, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Reviewing again this article
>> <https://www.openspaceworld.org/files/tmnfiles/choosingopenspace(Bolton).html>
>> by Diane Blair. She mentions two critical success factors
>> for Open Space. One is that the sponsor does not have
>> "pre-set outcomes." Would generating OKRs be considered a
>> pre-set outcome you think?
>> ________________
>>
>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
>> once again, and you will be free of problems.
>> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:05 PM Jake Yeager
>> <jacob.yeager at gmail.com <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Oops. It's 1.5 days I mean.
>> ________________
>>
>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will
>> shine once again, and you will be free of problems.
>> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM Jake Yeager
>> <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
>> <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you everyone for your feedback! It is much
>> welcomed, and you have provided a lot to chew on.
>> It's such a treat to hear from experienced
>> practitioners.
>>
>> Some info:
>>
>> * I have one day for the event
>> * There are about 30 participants: assistant
>> managers to the SVP
>> * Objectives are strategic initiatives, and key
>> results are how you measure your success
>> * We need to define both objectives and key
>> results by the end of the day: so, it's a
>> tight time-frame
>>
>> At this moment, I feel that I am too far down the
>> line with the sponsor to switch up the schedule
>> too much.
>>
>> I learned 25/10 Crowdsourcing in my Open Space
>> Genuine Contact training for formulating
>> recommendations and have found it to work well.
>> That said, I am open to learning how to let go of
>> control even more and will explore the many
>> options provided on this thread for future events.
>> I'm definitely open to learning more about how I
>> can work "less hard" per Michael Pannwitz's
>> comment. :)
>>
>> Also, I have incorporated some of your suggestions
>> in my "convergence" design:
>>
>> * After the group generates the top 10 draft
>> objectives from 25/10 Crowdsourcing, I will
>> invite the group to arrange them into 3 themes
>> rather than voting on them.
>> * I will invite self-organization to refine the
>> themes in parallel. The group members will be
>> able to choose which theme(s) they want to
>> refine (or not) in a series of sprints with
>> sprint reviews. The same setup with key results.
>>
>> Learning as I go as we all do. :)
>>
>> Much love,
>> Jake
>>
>>
>> ________________
>>
>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will
>> shine once again, and you will be free of problems.
>> - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 6:14 PM Thomas Herrmann
>> <thomas at openspaceconsulting.com
>> <mailto:thomas at openspaceconsulting.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Jake____
>>
>> I don’t fully understand, of course, but am
>> wondering what the purpose/expected outcome is
>> for this development process and also there
>> must be no more than 3 O’s? I understand they
>> are not yet defined, but should be
>> identified/agreed on in the OST?____
>>
>> My experience from similar situations is that
>> it is not that well thought through or that
>> the opportunities at hand if choosing to use
>> OST are not fully understood.____
>>
>> Good night from Sweden____
>>
>> Thomas Herrmann____
>>
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>> *Ämne:* [OSList] From Open Space to objectives
>> and key results (OKRs)?____
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> Hi folks,____
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> Anyone have experience using Open Space to
>> develop OKRs with a group?____
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> I am facilitating an Open Space event in late
>> February. I plan to use the 25/10
>> Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft
>> objectives (O's) and then 1-2-4-All to develop
>> the key results (KR's) for each objective. ____
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives.
>> It might get a little hairy if the clear
>> cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater
>> than 3. Guess I could use voting to narrow it
>> down. Also, I am exploring if consent
>> decision-making could be useful. The sponsor
>> might need to make a final call on the top 3
>> if the group is split.____
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> Thanks and much love,____
>>
>> Jake
>> ____
>>
>> ____________________
>>
>> __ __
>>
>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart
>> will shine once again, and you will be free of
>> problems.____
>>
>> - Robert Adams
>> <http://www.robert-adams.info/>____
>>
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