[OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

Michael M Pannwitz mmpannwitz at gmail.com
Sat Feb 8 15:16:40 PST 2020


Jake,
which Michael are your thinking of?
mmp

Am 08.02.2020 um 18:13 schrieb Jake Yeager via OSList:
> Michael and Chris - do you allot time to review the notes prior to 
> organizing them?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:14 AM Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com 
> <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Again, a bunch of great ideas and perspectives on this thread.
> 
>     After considering it more, I am going to propose to the sponsor that
>     we adjust our convergence process. Per Michael and Chris's
>     suggestions, I will propose that participants organize the notes
>     into themes. This will assist meaning-making and pattern
>     recognition. Then, I will invite participants to vote on the themes
>     that they would like to see turned into OKRs. The top 3 get turned
>     into OKRs using the iterative sprints.
> 
>     This approach seems more organic and simple. It also seems to flow
>     better, and it requires less facilitation.
> 
>     I also like Ilan's ideas about structuring the notes towards the
>     outcomes. I may also incorporate that.
> 
>     Thanks again!
> 
>     ________________
> 
>     When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
>     and you will be free of problems.
>       - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
> 
> 
>     On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:42 AM Ilan Kirschenbaum
>     <ilan at practical-agile.com <mailto:ilan at practical-agile.com>> wrote:
> 
>         Extending this to an Open Space format, let the structure guide
>         the outcomes.
>         For example, have the session summary sheets have, in addition
>         to topic, convener and participants, titles for Main Objective
>         and for Key Results. You may wish to add (see if you can find
>         about 3 SMART key results) - if you want to guide participants
>         towards the OKRs concept. That said with a invitation to favor
>         the more open and the less prescriptive approach.
> 
>         As for the initiatives session, one thing we had at a client is
>         to prepare a large board with a table having tall rubrics for Os
>         on the left side, and wider and shorter rubrics for KRs in the
>         right.
>         During this session, participants - conveners and other - were
>         invited to place their Os and KRs in the board and share what
>         they found passion and responsibility for to take forward.
>         In effect, that way self-organized teams were formed to make
>         these initiatives happen.
> 
> 
> 
>         On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 6:15 Chris Corrigan via OSList
>         <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>         <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
> 
>             No...  If the sponsor already knows which OKR’s will matter,
>             then that would be “pre-set” answers, and I would forget
>             about open space. But specifying that “we are trying to
>             generate new OKRs” is a fine invitation, because it’s open
>             and the sponsor should be generally curious about what will
>             come out of it and how results will be used.
> 
>             Chris
> 
>>             On Feb 6, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList
>>             <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>             <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>
>>             Reviewing again this article
>>             <https://www.openspaceworld.org/files/tmnfiles/choosingopenspace(Bolton).html>
>>             by Diane Blair. She mentions two critical success factors
>>             for Open Space. One is that the sponsor does not have
>>             "pre-set outcomes." Would generating OKRs be considered a
>>             pre-set outcome you think?
>>             ________________
>>
>>             When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine
>>             once again, and you will be free of problems.
>>              - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>
>>
>>             On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:05 PM Jake Yeager
>>             <jacob.yeager at gmail.com <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>>
>>             wrote:
>>
>>                 Oops. It's 1.5 days I mean.
>>                 ________________
>>
>>                 When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will
>>                 shine once again, and you will be free of problems.
>>                  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>
>>
>>                 On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM Jake Yeager
>>                 <jacob.yeager at gmail.com
>>                 <mailto:jacob.yeager at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                     Thank you everyone for your feedback! It is much
>>                     welcomed, and you have provided a lot to chew on.
>>                     It's such a treat to hear from experienced
>>                     practitioners.
>>
>>                     Some info:
>>
>>                       * I have one day for the event
>>                       * There are about 30 participants: assistant
>>                         managers to the SVP
>>                       * Objectives are strategic initiatives, and key
>>                         results are how you measure your success
>>                       * We need to define both objectives and key
>>                         results by the end of the day: so, it's a
>>                         tight time-frame
>>
>>                     At this moment, I feel that I am too far down the
>>                     line with the sponsor to switch up the schedule
>>                     too much.
>>
>>                     I learned 25/10 Crowdsourcing in my Open Space
>>                     Genuine Contact training for formulating
>>                     recommendations and have found it to work well.
>>                     That said, I am open to learning how to let go of
>>                     control even more and will explore the many
>>                     options provided on this thread for future events.
>>                     I'm definitely open to learning more about how I
>>                     can work "less hard" per Michael Pannwitz's
>>                     comment. :)
>>
>>                     Also, I have incorporated some of your suggestions
>>                     in my "convergence" design:
>>
>>                       * After the group generates the top 10 draft
>>                         objectives from 25/10 Crowdsourcing, I will
>>                         invite the group to arrange them into 3 themes
>>                         rather than voting on them.
>>                       * I will invite self-organization to refine the
>>                         themes in parallel. The group members will be
>>                         able to choose which theme(s) they want to
>>                         refine (or not) in a series of sprints with
>>                         sprint reviews. The same setup with key results.
>>
>>                     Learning as I go as we all do. :)
>>
>>                     Much love,
>>                     Jake
>>
>>
>>                     ________________
>>
>>                     When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will
>>                     shine once again, and you will be free of problems.
>>                      - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>
>>
>>                     On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 6:14 PM Thomas Herrmann
>>                     <thomas at openspaceconsulting.com
>>                     <mailto:thomas at openspaceconsulting.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                         Dear Jake____
>>
>>                         I don’t fully understand, of course, but am
>>                         wondering what the purpose/expected outcome is
>>                         for this development process and also there
>>                         must be no more than 3 O’s? I understand they
>>                         are not yet defined, but should be
>>                         identified/agreed on in the OST?____
>>
>>                         My experience from similar situations is that
>>                         it is not that well thought through or that
>>                         the opportunities at hand if choosing to use
>>                         OST are not fully understood.____
>>
>>                         Good night from Sweden____
>>
>>                         Thomas Herrmann____
>>
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>>                         *Ämne:* [OSList] From Open Space to objectives
>>                         and key results (OKRs)?____
>>
>>                         __ __
>>
>>                         Hi folks,____
>>
>>                         __ __
>>
>>                         Anyone have experience using Open Space to
>>                         develop OKRs with a group?____
>>
>>                         __ __
>>
>>                         I am facilitating an Open Space event in late
>>                         February. I plan to use the 25/10
>>                         Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft
>>                         objectives (O's) and then 1-2-4-All to develop
>>                         the key results (KR's) for each objective. ____
>>
>>                         __ __
>>
>>                         The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives.
>>                         It might get a little hairy if the clear
>>                         cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater
>>                         than 3. Guess I could use voting to narrow it
>>                         down. Also, I am exploring if consent
>>                         decision-making could be useful. The sponsor
>>                         might need to make a final call on the top 3
>>                         if the group is split.____
>>
>>                         __ __
>>
>>                         Thanks and much love,____
>>
>>                         Jake
>>                         ____
>>
>>                         ____________________
>>
>>                         __ __
>>
>>                         When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart
>>                         will shine once again, and you will be free of
>>                         problems.____
>>
>>                          - Robert Adams
>>                         <http://www.robert-adams.info/>____
>>
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