[OSList] Open Space and Holacracy

Tue Mar 4 11:34:47 PST 2014

This reminds me of a very short conversation I had with a participant of
the Practice of Peace seminar last January. He had left Zappos not so long
ago. We exchanged a few words about the ambiguity  of Tony Hsieh mandating
Zappos to become holacratic, because it was his own personal vision.

I find very interesting this tension between personal vision (think about
Gore for instance or Semler and Semco) and self-organization.
looks very complex and human to me ;)
but stlll wondering how self-organization fits within this kind of frame.

Christine

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:

> Christine, Zappo Holarchs “rolled out” according to the following...
> Sounds like sort of a mandate to me. ho
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> http://qz.com/161210/zappos-is-going-holacratic-no-job-titles-no-managers-no-hierarchy
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> *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Christine Whitney
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 12:46 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Open Space and Holacracy
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> Great post, Daniel.  Our company worked with Tony Hseigh’s Downtown Las
> Vegas Project last year and found the whole thing to be very
> self-organizing.
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> I’m surprised that Zappos is imposing any kind of mandate - where did you
> discover this?
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> Namasté,
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> Christine
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> On Mar 4, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Dan Mezick <dan at newtechusa.net> wrote:
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> An invitation arouses curiousity, but a mandate dries up
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> the bones... Ancient Proverb
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> The Mandate of Holacracy at Zappos:
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> http://newtechusa.net/agile/the-mandate-of-holacracy-at-zappos/
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 4, 2014, at 11:36 AM, "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
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> Wikipedia (as usual) has everything you wanted to know... go to --
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holacracy
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> I can certainly imagine Open Space playing a role in Holacracies, and in
> fact the "governance" in a Open Space could certainly be described as
> "Holacratic" -- which is to say "ruling power" is totally distributed
> amongst the participants. But there is a real difference. Holacracy in Open
> Space is totally an emergent phenomenon. Nobody designed it, nobody
> implements it -- it just shows up all by itself. Holacracy in places like
> Zappos is a designed phenomenon. Doubtless it works pretty well, but it
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> seem to me that they may be working a little too hard, creating something
> that can and does happen all by itself. I think.
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> Harrison
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> On Behalf Of Kári Gunnarsson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 11:20 AM
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> I heard that Holacracy is somehow based upon the principles of Open Space
> and uses Open space for its implementation.
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> On 4 March 2014 08:53, Rob van der Eyden
> <robvandereyden at veranderarchitect.nl> wrote:
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> Hello Kári,
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> Interesting question. How do you see the link between Open space and
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> Holacracy?
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> Kind regards, Rob van der Eyden
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> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
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> Verzonden: maandag 3 maart 2014 21:52
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> Aan: Open Space Forum
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> Onderwerp: [OSList] Open Space and Holacracy
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> There have been much talk about the relationship of the organizational
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> chart and how Open Space operates. Recent compareson to me has been to
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> link the new self-organizing authority and decision-making system
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> called Holacracy
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> see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holacracy
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> I wonder if there are stories on the use of Open space to transform
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> more traditional system to one of Open Space based Holacracy?  I would
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> be happy to learn some of your experiences in this regard.
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