[OSList] How do we define LURKER?

Sun Dec 14 14:15:50 PST 2014

I feel like an “active reader“ and like a lurker alternately.
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Am 14.12.2014 um 20:59 schrieb Peggy Holman via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:

> I have played with the term "active readers" rather than lurkers. Has a different tone.
> 
> 
> The compulsive historian in me wants to mention that in November, 2009, a message called Roll Call: Present was sent by Erik Fabian (who contributed about 15 messages from June to November of that year.) He asked people just to respond with a “present”. While he used the term lurkers, he included in a larger framing (below).
> 
> By his count, it brought 100+ responses, similar in tone to those responding now. Ironically, Erik’s reflections on the roll call (also below) was his last message to the list.
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> 
> appreciatively,
> Peggy
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> 
> ROLL CALL: PRESENT
>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 1:13 AM, Erik Fabian <erik at DOUBLEHAPPINESSNYC.COM> wrote:
>> 
>> I was intrigued by Phelim's observation that the OSLIST, not being a physical space, lacks the 
>> information that comes from people sitting silent or choosing to leave.
>> 
>> I invite the many folks, the lurkers, the newbies, the old hands, the folks with better things to do, 
>> anyone really...to respond to this message with a "present" if you would like to be noted as attending 
>> to this virtual space.
>> 
>> I know it won't solve the exiting problem but it might perhaps give a sense of scale to the ratio of 
>> talkers to the silent.
>> 
>> Erik - present
>> 
>> *
>> 
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> 
> REFLECTING ON THE ROLL CALL
> 
>> On Nov 29, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Erik Fabian <erik at DOUBLEHAPPINESSNYC.COM> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 1st thing: I don't mean to stop the Roll Call if folks would still like to chime in. Feel welcome.
>> 
>> 2nd: I was quite struck by the 100+ voices that have called present so far in the Roll Call. Your 
>> responses reoriented my sense of scale on this list and created a fascinating moment where I 
>> didn't know what was going to happen next...I felt like I watching a filibuster or something. 
>> 
>> I was also struck by the sense of willingness to continue to be present in this OSLIST conversation 
>> despite disagreements, other options, shyness, busy lives, etc. That felt like some kind of bedrock 
>> to me.
>> 
>> The momentum has slowed and the thread has mixed back into the stream of multiple 
>> conversations on the list.  I have also started to hear some reflection from Michael (here: 
>> http://tinyurl.com/ygupaax) & Harold (here: http://tinyurl.com/ykx3scs) and so it seems 
>> appropriate to put out a broader invitation to reflect on the Roll Call.
>> 
>> I suppose I should say, I viewed the Roll Call responses in the context of a couple weeks of debate 
>> about OS, where the online OS community should find its home, differing values around online 
>> communication styles, and thoughts about OS and change.
>> 
>> Peggy asked an interesting question recently: How do the Open Space principles help us both 
>> support and resist change and what does that mean for the evolution of OST and opening space? 
>> (http://tinyurl.com/yzg8nh9)
>> 
>> So I invite anyone, anyone who was present or silently sat aside, who would like to reflect on the 
>> Roll Call to feel welcome to do so, and to perhaps consider the Roll Call in the light of recent 
>> debates on this list or Peggy's question about change and the future of OS.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Erik
>> 
>> *
> *
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>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 10:23 AM, openspacedk1 via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Given we are a community working with open space,
>> 
>> therefore able or learning to be absolutely present
>> and absolutely invisible
>> 
>> isn't what we see the only thing that could happen ?
>> 
>> 
>> Greetings Gerard, Denmark
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>> 
>> ichael Herman via OSList skrev den 2014-12-11 17:08:
>>> Perhaps a bit of conflict in the definition, as it seems to say that
>>> listening isn't active participation.
>>> My working definition for leadership, in any field, is practice made
>>> visible. Maybe visible is useful in place of active.
>>> Yes, this suggests a distinction between lurkers and leaders, but it
>>> also allows for the definition of leader and our leadership ranks here
>>> to expand.
>>> I have been very visible here in the past but less so in recent years.
>>> Reading most everything, but not so visible.
>>> I think every single posting leads some us somewhere, even if those
>>> places aren't so obvious.
>>> Enjoying seeing so many familiar names mixed in with new ones.
>>> Michael
>>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014, Daniel Mezick via OSList
>>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>> In the game, as described, the definition of [lurker] is clear:
>>>> "...someone who examines these OSLIST threads periodically but does
>>>> not actively participate."
>>>> The definition is purposefully loose, so anyone can self-identify
>>>> with it, and optionally play the game.
>>>> Daniel
>>>> On 12/11/14 9:32 AM, Carmela Ariza via OSList wrote:
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> It is very interesting - that asking who are lurkers - encouraged
>>>>> the lurkers to come out and write a few sentences...
>>>>> I am curious - how do we really define LURKERS?
>>>>> Would love to listen to your thoughts on this....
>>>>> Carms
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