[OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
Michael M Pannwitz
mmpannwitz at gmail.com
Sat Jul 13 02:51:24 PDT 2013
Dear Chris,
since 2003, almost exactly a decade ago, when the 2108 event took place
(HO and I facilitated, two languages) I have been picking my brain on
how those 2108 participants did it.
We had no inkling on whether it would work.
After the intro into OST, about 200 people jumped up simultaneously. I
held the mike (which I usually never do but HO insisted and he was right
on target). We watched the time closely and after the first few people
announced their issues in both languages it was clear, it would not
work. So we asked people just to use their mother tongue only (other
participants translated and I think translations were also done on the
issue sheets on the bulletin board), that way it eventually averaged out
to 8 seconds per issue to be announced. With 232 issues posted that was
a total of 1856 seconds or a little bit more than half an hour.
We had figured on 150 issues max (we had done some very scientific
extrapolation based on all documented os events we got our hands on) and
had arranged for 50 spaces (we had three time slots)... the team did not
create new spaces but simply handed out further balloons with the
numbers 51 through 79 for folks to create the additional spaces which
they did in the main room rearranging the cushions we had instead of
chairs for the starting circles... the entire team flaking out after
having been up since midnight to set up the event.
The next surprise we had was how fast and seemingly without problems
people decided on which sessions to go to and find them. We did have
very long walls for the bulletin board (three walls along three sides of
the very huge tent, each wall for one of the starting times).
So, looking at the time for getting issues announced and for people to
decide and find their sessions I would be more bold today (mind you, we
did have a total of 8 hours with the beginning times spaced 1.5 hours).
And based on my experience with many os-events since then, I find that
the time people take for their breakout sessions is selforganized with
some folks actually going to sessions at all three beginning times, some
spending all three times in one group on one issue, etc....there never
were feedbacks on session-time being too short (which I think also has
to do with it being selforganized, nobody is forced to stick to "the
schedule") but often remarks on the total time available being too
little (why did we not do the whole event in open space, for instance).
The only way you can handle the noise is to have a first class
professional PA System with technical staff managing it all the time.
As far as it being ambitious I myself would in fact not take the offer
to facilitate but Sharon is bent on doing it. There may be a little more
time available... in 2003 we started the event with a 30 minute break at
7:45am and opening by the sponsor at 8:15 and getting into the
introduction to OST at 8:20... at the end we had 30 minutes for the
closing circle.
As far as the people having satisfying conversations is concerned, I
feel that does not depend on the time "available". I have seen breakout
sessions where 1.5 hours were between the beginning times and the groups
taking 15 minutes or an hour or take three sessions for their issue with
the composition of the group changing... and I have seen many break out
sessions not taking place at all or being visited only by the
convener...so I have given up on thinking about "satisfying"
experiences, people organise stuff in a way that suits them... I do care
more than most people around me can stand the conditions/framework etc.
and spend time to convey to the entire group that it is their time and
their space. They know best how to scale stuff...
And on the point of getting a feeling for the power of the forces of
selforganisation, I just give up, no way to influence that (although
control is impeding), the forces of selforganisation probably even
resent that...
Have a great weekend
Greetings from Berlin
mmp
On 13.07.2013 00:47, Chris Corrigan wrote:
> Michael, would you really go with three 45 minutes sessions for 1000
> people? It takes something like that amount of time just for people to
> find the next session and get settled. By the time the convener starts
> their topic, it's going to be time to move again...
>
> The biggest challenge with large groups is the amount of time it takes
> to move and the amount of space you need to allow people to peruse the
> bullentin board and make choices. It is very hard for 1000 people to
> read what has been written and posted on handwritten sheets of paper.
> Think about holding up a piece of paper with a topic written on it in
> front of 1000 people. How long do you think it will take for them all
> to get a chance to read it? the flip side, as Michael points out is
> that with 1000 people you could well have 200-300 sessions proposed.
> that means you need up to 150 breakout spaces available, which is a
> big ask for any facility. And with even 200 topics proposed, and each
> convener taking 30 seconds to pitch their session, you have 100 minutes
> of presentation, with A LOT of noise in the room before you even get to
> the part where 1000 people go to the wall and look at their topics...so
> all of that is very real and needs very careful planning and
> consideration. And you need adequate time and space.
>
> I think doing this in a half day is ambitious enough...with three
> sessions of 45 minutes I would highly doubt whether people will a) have
> satisfying conversations and b) get a feeling for the power of
> self-organization. With enough time and space, I believe that any group
> of any size can experience Open Space Technology and really get it. But
> you need to scale it appropriately in order for it to be a rich enough
> experience and a useful tool.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring
> <adriana at diazberrio.com <mailto:adriana at diazberrio.com>> wrote:
>
> Sharon: I think that this OS will be a very interesting experiment
> and that what will be very good is that people will have some
> exposure to this approach and they will like it so they can think
> about using it in other places in other moments to.
> Of course this will be very big and short for the amount of people
> but long enought to make them feel the wisdom and the power of self
> organising systems in action!
> I hope you have several people helping you setting the place the day
> before!
>
> Adriana
>
> 2013/7/12 lucia pavia Ticzon <living.systems.org.luch at gmail.com
> <mailto:living.systems.org.luch at gmail.com>>
>
> ONward, sis
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Sharon Joy Chao
> <sharon at seameo-innotech.org <mailto:sharon at seameo-innotech.org>>
> wrote:
>
> Its overwhelming reading through all the exchanges and good
> intentions my request has generated. I read each mail and
> can't help but smile at the treasure trove of ideas.
>
> First off, the 1,000 participants in 4 hours, is definitely
> pushing through in Cebu. As its a big event, theres a team
> that's helping me and doing much of the pre work on the
> ground. The venue is a huge hotel ballroom enough to
> accommodate over 2,000 so space is not much of a worry. I
> was shown pictures, the ballroom is squarish with high
> ceiling. Now here's the catch, initially we thought of
> deploying balloons much like how Michael has done in Germany
> some years back. But the hotel won't allow balloons inside
> the hall, and also do not permit sticking anything on the
> wall. So, we are left with following options: either to use
> the laundry line complete with laundry clips or placards,
> which can be raised for people to see.
>
> I like the suggestion of Chris, as its something I can use
> to close the circle. Some tweaking so it reads like
> this..."what did we learn in this open space gathering and
> what do we need to do to support the momentum?" Of course I
> still need to work with Civil Service people to make sense
> of the results and also to post the same question to them.
>
> Btw, this OST event happens within a two-day symposium on
> Performance Management System. And Harrison is right, there
> are tons of speakers on day 1, day 2 starts with open space
> in the morning. The big question paused to them is
> this: What bold steps can we take to create a truly
> essential, energizing and responsive performance management
> system? Additional speakers take over in the afternoon
> mainly for government pronouncements.
>
> The participants are government HR, OD and planning people,
> local government and some private sector representatives.
> There might not be that much exposure for deep engagement,
> but I'd still take this assignment anytime.
>
> To touch base with as many government agencies and be able
> to open the discussion on performance management; to have
> this engagement even for just four hours and get government
> to seriously consider the kind of system that gives life to
> the service...these are enough incentives for me to accept
> the assignment.
>
> From the practice of open space I learn to adopt a
> beginner's mind, one that's open to possibility, a don't
> know mind, this coupled with the practice of quieting the
> mind, prepares me to gracefully enter the circle. I pray
> for humility to open the circle, and strength to step aside
> once the circle is open. And yes, 15 min is enough time to
> set the space.
>
> The program, thanks to your suggestions is more
> streamlined...one hour opening/issue generation; two one-
> hour sessions and another hour for closing the circle.
>
> I truly can't thank everyone enough. Sending my love to
> Harrison, Lisa and Franklin, and all those who are kind
> enough to play through the configuration of 1,000 under 4
> hours. I'll get back to you and share how it goes. That
> would be something to look forward to :)
>
> Metta,
> Sharon Joy
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 12, 2013, at 4:06 AM,
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>> Hi Harrison,
>>
>> Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how
>> to proceed and be
>> hopefully clearer about her design decisions.
>> I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the
>> authenticity of how
>> you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.
>> Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence
>> in all situations
>> to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
>> and/or the
>> process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats,
>> whose shadow can
>> slow down the speed of large group movement.
>> Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my
>> Kathie Dannemiller
>> lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make
>> the process
>> consciously the participants' process.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
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>> > Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have
>> never seen any
>> > reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In
>> every situation with
>> > large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ?
>> the people do it
>> > all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the
>> action is faster, and
>> > more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it
>> really rolls. You just
>> > got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would
>> make sure the
>> > opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator)
>> only ? and on with
>> > the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be
>> in place (real
>> > business issue, complexity, diversity, passion,
>> conflict, urgency) ? and
>> > from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit
>> in a circle, create
>> > bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work.
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>> > Hi Sharon Joy,****
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>> > Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our
>> experience and
>> > imagination.****
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>> > Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought.
>> For me the joy of a
>> > laid back ****
>> >
>> > OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger
>> numbers and
>> > logistics. I ****
>> >
>> > want people to see what they can get done when they are
>> focused and led
>> > through ****
>> >
>> > well planned OS tasks. ****
>> >
>> > I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants
>> to walk away
>> > with. I try to ****
>> >
>> > get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond
>> of design teams
>> > preceding ****
>> >
>> > any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to
>> 10 vertically
>> > positioned ****
>> >
>> > influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get
>> together and confirm
>> > sought ****
>> >
>> > desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a
>> list of important
>> > topics****
>> >
>> > for this conversation and to rework the list into a
>> vital few examples. I
>> > would also ****
>> >
>> > encourage this group to recognize the significance of
>> their role and to
>> > serve as ****
>> >
>> > spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.****
>> >
>> > However the session is opened, I would include a design
>> team member or two
>> > to share their ****
>> >
>> > hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly
>> share the list of
>> > topics as examples ****
>> >
>> > for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them
>> per the "high
>> > performance ****
>> >
>> > system"sought.****
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>> > This is a great opportunity for your government to work
>> together.****
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>> > I also look forward to learning about your experience
>> and next steps.****
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>> > ** **
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>> > Scott Gassman****
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>> > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
>> > sharon at seameo-innotech.org
>> <mailto:sharon at seameo-innotech.org>> wrote:****
>> >
>> > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government
>> people to go
>> > through an exploratory discussion on high performance
>> system, all under 4
>> > hours.
>> >
>> > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu.
>> The focus is on the
>> > Philippine government service, its performance
>> management system and how it
>> > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>> >
>> > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with
>> some incredible
>> > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to
>> post on OSList.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of
>> thousand in 4 hours
>> > time?
>> >
>> > Maraming Salamat.
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>> Scott said - "Not all of us have your (that's me - HO)
>> confidence, clarity
>> or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an
>> organization we
>> may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially
>> filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large
>> group movement."
>>
>>
>>
>> Nice words, Scott - but once again I have a different
>> take. Truth is I have
>> ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my
>> "competence in all
>> situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we
>> may live/work in
>> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose
>> shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement."
>> Quite to the
>> contrary, I know totally and completely that I will NEVER
>> have a real clue
>> about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast
>> moving, opaque...
>> BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is
>> to invite them to
>> do what only they know how to do - and then, as quickly as
>> possible, get out
>> of the way. Usually to take a napJ
>>
>>
>>
>> And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend.
>> I respect her
>> greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what
>> she did, she didn't
>> use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was - "I'd be
>> terrified ... it
>> could get out of control." The big secret, of course, was
>> that she (as we
>> all are) was always out of control - so there was nothing
>> to lose.
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison Owen
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>
>> USA
>>
>>
>>
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>>
>> Camden, Maine 04843
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>>
>>
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>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf
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>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Harrison,
>>
>>
>>
>> Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how
>> to proceed and be
>> hopefully clearer about her design decisions.
>>
>> I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the
>> authenticity of how you
>> have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.
>>
>> Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence
>> in all situations
>> to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
>> and/or the
>> process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats,
>> whose shadow can slow
>> down the speed of large group movement.
>>
>> Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my
>> Kathie Dannemiller
>> lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make
>> the process
>> consciously the participants' process.
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Scott - I guess I really have a different take. I have
>> never seen any reason
>> to "plant" topics, or emplace "spark plugs." In every
>> situation with large
>> groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) - the
>> people do it all by
>> themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is
>> faster, and more
>> furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really
>> rolls. You just got to
>> get out of the way quickly - which is why I would make
>> sure the opening was
>> fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only - and on
>> with the show! Of
>> course the "necessary conditions" must be in place (real
>> business issue,
>> complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) - and
>> from there on out
>> the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create
>> bulletin board,
>> open market place - and go to work. Nothing else needed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison Owen
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>
>> USA
>>
>>
>>
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>>
>> Camden, Maine 04843
>>
>>
>>
>> Phone 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>
>>
>> (summer) 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>
>>
>>
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>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Sharon Joy,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our
>> experience and
>> imagination.
>>
>> Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For
>> me the joy of a
>> laid back
>>
>> OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger
>> numbers and
>> logistics. I
>>
>> want people to see what they can get done when they are
>> focused and led
>> through
>>
>> well planned OS tasks.
>>
>> I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants
>> to walk away with.
>> I try to
>>
>> get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of
>> design teams
>> preceding
>>
>> any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10
>> vertically
>> positioned
>>
>> influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get
>> together and confirm
>> sought
>>
>> desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a
>> list of important
>> topics
>>
>> for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital
>> few examples. I
>> would also
>>
>> encourage this group to recognize the significance of
>> their role and to
>> serve as
>>
>> spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.
>>
>> However the session is opened, I would include a design
>> team member or two
>> to share their
>>
>> hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly
>> share the list of
>> topics as examples
>>
>> for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them
>> per the "high
>> performance
>>
>> system"sought.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a great opportunity for your government to work
>> together.
>>
>> I also look forward to learning about your experience and
>> next steps.
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott Gassman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao
>> <sharon at seameo-innotech.org
>> <mailto:sharon at seameo-innotech.org>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government
>> people to go through
>> an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all
>> under 4 hours.
>>
>> This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The
>> focus is on the
>> Philippine government service, its performance management
>> system and how it
>> can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>>
>> Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some
>> incredible
>> suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to
>> post on OSList.
>>
>> Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of
>> thousand in 4 hours time?
>>
>>
>> Maraming Salamat.
>>
>> ========================================
>> Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
>> SEAMEO INNOTECH
>> Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
>> Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
>> Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
>> Fax (632) 928-7692
>>
>>
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>> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:47:45 -0700
>> From: Chris Corrigan <chris at chriscorrigan.com
>> <mailto:chris at chriscorrigan.com>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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>> Agreeing with Harrison here.
>>
>> Lisa has given some great advice. If you were going to
>> make it possible to
>> host 1000 people in Open Space for 4 hours, Lisa's
>> detailed list gives you
>> your best shot of doing that and being successful.
>>
>> Don't be fooled though...this is a huge ask to do this
>> well. The largest
>> group I ever hosted was about 600 people and honestly, the
>> thought of doing
>> that in a half day is truly overwhelming. You need a
>> large team with you
>> to make sure the logistics flow and make sure that people
>> can find where
>> they need to go in a timely way. But 1000 people moving
>> about in a space
>> is a really big ask, and that takes WAAAAY more time than
>> you think it
>> will. And God forbid someone calls a session and 75 people
>> show up because
>> it is rich and juicy - just being able to be heard and get
>> a few comments
>> in will be challenging.
>>
>> As for the design teams idea, that one is really simple.
>> With a crowd of
>> 1000 people all proposing and hosting conversations I
>> think having a few
>> people predetermine some trigger topics will give a false
>> sense of comfort
>> that they are actually able to be influential. The fact
>> is that 1000
>> people are ALREADY talking and this Open Space will simply
>> make that all
>> visible. To host this in Open Space you simply HAVE to
>> have confidence in
>> your ability to stand in the room and host. If you can't
>> do that, it's
>> going to be hard for you. You will not be able to control
>> the shadow of
>> the group nor the possibility of emergence. Once the
>> group is working you
>> will barely be able to reconvene them, let alone impact
>> the emotional field
>> of the event. So you and the core team need to let go of
>> outcomes and get
>> really curious about what might emerge from this afternoon
>> of work.
>>
>> Instead of design teams I would counsel that you have
>> several dozen
>> listeners somehow connected to the bigger project who can
>> discern what is
>> going on. After the event invite them and the conveners
>> of every
>> conversation to engage in a little meaning making
>> together. That could
>> still be a meeting of more than 100 people, but you could
>> do it in Open
>> Space and ask the question: "So what did we learn from our
>> 1000 people open
>> space and what do we need to do to support momentum?"
>>
>> And as for outcomes, there is very little this group
>> collectively will be
>> able to accomplish in four hours other than people shaving
>> the conversation
>> they came to have (not the ones the sponsors want them to
>> have) with a few
>> people who managed to find them. You might use a tool like
>> http://smsharvest.com as a way of catching insights on the
>> fly from
>> everywhere. But it will be really hard to get any
>> collective clarity.
>>
>> This is a tough one Sharon Joy. I wish you a lot of luck
>> and good clarity
>> and hope you will share the story with us of whatever
>> happens. There will
>> be lots of learning in it for all of us.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>> > Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO)
>> confidence, clarity
>> > or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in
>> an organization we
>> > may live/work in and/or the process in a room
>> potentially filled with
>> > bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of
>> large group movement.?
>> > ****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different
>> take. Truth is I
>> > have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my
>> ?competence in all
>> > situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we
>> may live/work in
>> > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose
>> > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.?
>> Quite to the
>> > contrary, I know totally and completely that I will
>> NEVER have a real clue
>> > about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast
>> moving, opaque...
>> > BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility)
>> is to invite them
>> > to do what only they know how to do ? and then, as
>> quickly as possible, get
>> > out of the way. Usually to take a napJ****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a
>> friend. I respect her
>> > greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what
>> she did, she didn?t
>> > use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be
>> terrified ... it
>> > could get out of control.? The big secret, of course,
>> was that she (as we
>> > all are) was always out of control ? so there was
>> nothing to lose.****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Harrison****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Harrison Owen****
>> >
>> > 7808 River Falls Dr.****
>> >
>> > Potomac, MD 20854****
>> >
>> > USA****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
>> >
>> > Camden, Maine 04843****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Phone 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>****
>> >
>> > (summer) 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
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>> >
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>> > ** **
>> >
>> > *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> [mailto:
>> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>> >
>> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Hi Harrison,****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about
>> how to proceed and
>> > be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.****
>> >
>> > I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the
>> authenticity of how
>> > you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do
>> it.****
>> >
>> > Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or
>> competence in all
>> > situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may
>> live/work in
>> > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose
>> > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement. ****
>> >
>> > Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my
>> Kathie Dannemiller
>> > lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make
>> the process
>> > consciously the participants' process.****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Scott****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have
>> never seen any
>> > reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In
>> every situation with
>> > large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ?
>> the people do it
>> > all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the
>> action is faster, and
>> > more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it
>> really rolls. You just
>> > got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would
>> make sure the
>> > opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator)
>> only ? and on with
>> > the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be
>> in place (real
>> > business issue, complexity, diversity, passion,
>> conflict, urgency) ? and
>> > from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit
>> in a circle, create
>> > bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work.
>> Nothing else needed.**
>> > **
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Harrison****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Harrison Owen****
>> >
>> > 7808 River Falls Dr.****
>> >
>> > Potomac, MD 20854****
>> >
>> > USA****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
>> >
>> > Camden, Maine 04843****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Phone 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>****
>> >
>> > (summer) 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> ****
>> >
>> > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
>> <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)****
>> >
>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>> archives of
>> > OSLIST Go to:
>> >
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> [mailto:
>> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
>> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Hi Sharon Joy,****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our
>> experience and
>> > imagination.****
>> >
>> > Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought.
>> For me the joy of a
>> > laid back ****
>> >
>> > OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger
>> numbers and
>> > logistics. I ****
>> >
>> > want people to see what they can get done when they are
>> focused and led
>> > through ****
>> >
>> > well planned OS tasks. ****
>> >
>> > I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants
>> to walk away
>> > with. I try to ****
>> >
>> > get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond
>> of design teams
>> > preceding ****
>> >
>> > any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to
>> 10 vertically
>> > positioned ****
>> >
>> > influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get
>> together and confirm
>> > sought ****
>> >
>> > desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a
>> list of important
>> > topics****
>> >
>> > for this conversation and to rework the list into a
>> vital few examples. I
>> > would also ****
>> >
>> > encourage this group to recognize the significance of
>> their role and to
>> > serve as ****
>> >
>> > spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.****
>> >
>> > However the session is opened, I would include a design
>> team member or two
>> > to share their ****
>> >
>> > hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly
>> share the list of
>> > topics as examples ****
>> >
>> > for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them
>> per the "high
>> > performance ****
>> >
>> > system"sought.****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > This is a great opportunity for your government to work
>> together.****
>> >
>> > I also look forward to learning about your experience
>> and next steps.****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Scott Gassman****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
>> > sharon at seameo-innotech.org
>> <mailto:sharon at seameo-innotech.org>> wrote:****
>> >
>> > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government
>> people to go
>> > through an exploratory discussion on high performance
>> system, all under 4
>> > hours.
>> >
>> > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu.
>> The focus is on the
>> > Philippine government service, its performance
>> management system and how it
>> > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>> >
>> > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with
>> some incredible
>> > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to
>> post on OSList.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of
>> thousand in 4 hours
>> > time?
>> >
>> > Maraming Salamat.
>> >
>> > ========================================
>> > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
>> > SEAMEO INNOTECH
>> > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
>> > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
>> > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
>> > Fax (632) 928-7692
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
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>> >
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>> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 20:47:52 -0400
>> From: Scott Gassman <scott.gassman at gmail.com
>> <mailto:scott.gassman at gmail.com>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
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>> Harrison,
>>
>> I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think
>> about the "ZERO
>> confidence," "about what is going on."
>> That's good material for me to think about as I approach
>> future group
>> work.
>> I am touched by your Kathie story. Kathie's respect for
>> you came out in a
>> conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and so
>> she really
>> steered me towards learning with you and Lisa up in Maine.
>> I do remember
>> you leaving to take a nap and me scratching my head - how
>> - in the middle,
>> can you let go? I guess until now I dance between the
>> freedom of Open Space
>> and joint design team sharing that anchors me to do as
>> much as I can to
>> support the group and deliver a quick start. I want the
>> organizational
>> team to discover and I also want to have them have those
>> first few steps of
>> how to get going on their own.
>> I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also
>> "out of control,"
>> aiming to get them to keep pedaling and stay up.
>>
>> Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>> > Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO)
>> confidence, clarity
>> > or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in
>> an organization we
>> > may live/work in and/or the process in a room
>> potentially filled with
>> > bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of
>> large group movement.?
>> > ****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different
>> take. Truth is I
>> > have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my
>> ?competence in all
>> > situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we
>> may live/work in
>> > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose
>> > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.?
>> Quite to the
>> > contrary, I know totally and completely that I will
>> NEVER have a real clue
>> > about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast
>> moving, opaque...
>> > BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility)
>> is to invite them
>> > to do what only they know how to do ? and then, as
>> quickly as possible, get
>> > out of the way. Usually to take a napJ****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a
>> friend. I respect her
>> > greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what
>> she did, she didn?t
>> > use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be
>> terrified ... it
>> > could get out of control.? The big secret, of course,
>> was that she (as we
>> > all are) was always out of control ? so there was
>> nothing to lose.****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Harrison****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Harrison Owen****
>> >
>> > 7808 River Falls Dr.****
>> >
>> > Potomac, MD 20854****
>> >
>> > USA****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
>> >
>> > Camden, Maine 04843****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Phone 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>****
>> >
>> > (summer) 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> ****
>> >
>> > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
>> <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)****
>> >
>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>> archives of
>> > OSLIST Go to:
>> >
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> [mailto:
>> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>> >
>> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Hi Harrison,****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about
>> how to proceed and
>> > be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.****
>> >
>> > I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the
>> authenticity of how
>> > you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do
>> it.****
>> >
>> > Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or
>> competence in all
>> > situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may
>> live/work in
>> > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose
>> > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement. ****
>> >
>> > Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my
>> Kathie Dannemiller
>> > lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make
>> the process
>> > consciously the participants' process.****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Scott****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have
>> never seen any
>> > reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In
>> every situation with
>> > large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ?
>> the people do it
>> > all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the
>> action is faster, and
>> > more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it
>> really rolls. You just
>> > got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would
>> make sure the
>> > opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator)
>> only ? and on with
>> > the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be
>> in place (real
>> > business issue, complexity, diversity, passion,
>> conflict, urgency) ? and
>> > from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit
>> in a circle, create
>> > bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work.
>> Nothing else needed.**
>> > **
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Harrison****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Harrison Owen****
>> >
>> > 7808 River Falls Dr.****
>> >
>> > Potomac, MD 20854****
>> >
>> > USA****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
>> >
>> > Camden, Maine 04843****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Phone 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>****
>> >
>> > (summer) 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> ****
>> >
>> > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
>> <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)****
>> >
>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>> archives of
>> > OSLIST Go to:
>> >
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> [mailto:
>> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
>> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Hi Sharon Joy,****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our
>> experience and
>> > imagination.****
>> >
>> > Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought.
>> For me the joy of a
>> > laid back ****
>> >
>> > OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger
>> numbers and
>> > logistics. I ****
>> >
>> > want people to see what they can get done when they are
>> focused and led
>> > through ****
>> >
>> > well planned OS tasks. ****
>> >
>> > I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants
>> to walk away
>> > with. I try to ****
>> >
>> > get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond
>> of design teams
>> > preceding ****
>> >
>> > any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to
>> 10 vertically
>> > positioned ****
>> >
>> > influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get
>> together and confirm
>> > sought ****
>> >
>> > desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a
>> list of important
>> > topics****
>> >
>> > for this conversation and to rework the list into a
>> vital few examples. I
>> > would also ****
>> >
>> > encourage this group to recognize the significance of
>> their role and to
>> > serve as ****
>> >
>> > spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.****
>> >
>> > However the session is opened, I would include a design
>> team member or two
>> > to share their ****
>> >
>> > hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly
>> share the list of
>> > topics as examples ****
>> >
>> > for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them
>> per the "high
>> > performance ****
>> >
>> > system"sought.****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > This is a great opportunity for your government to work
>> together.****
>> >
>> > I also look forward to learning about your experience
>> and next steps.****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Scott Gassman****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
>> > sharon at seameo-innotech.org
>> <mailto:sharon at seameo-innotech.org>> wrote:****
>> >
>> > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government
>> people to go
>> > through an exploratory discussion on high performance
>> system, all under 4
>> > hours.
>> >
>> > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu.
>> The focus is on the
>> > Philippine government service, its performance
>> management system and how it
>> > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>> >
>> > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with
>> some incredible
>> > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to
>> post on OSList.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of
>> thousand in 4 hours
>> > time?
>> >
>> > Maraming Salamat.
>> >
>> > ========================================
>> > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
>> > SEAMEO INNOTECH
>> > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
>> > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
>> > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
>> > Fax (632) 928-7692
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > OSList mailing list
>> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> > To unsubscribe send an email to
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>> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > --
>> > Scott Gassman
>> > IdeaJuice
>> > (917) 951 - 0258 <tel:%28917%29%20951%20-%200258>
>> > scott.gassman at gmail.com <mailto:scott.gassman at gmail.com>
>> > www.ideajuices.com <http://www.ideajuices.com>
>> >
>> > America Speaks on Scott:
>> >
>> http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > --
>> > Scott Gassman
>> > IdeaJuice
>> > (917) 951 - 0258 <tel:%28917%29%20951%20-%200258>
>> > scott.gassman at gmail.com <mailto:scott.gassman at gmail.com>
>> > www.ideajuices.com <http://www.ideajuices.com>
>> >
>> > America Speaks on Scott:
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 05:55:23 +0000
>> From: K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is
>> <mailto:kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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>>
>> A question here
>>
>> I have been a bit confused about the selection process for
>> open space.
>> In my last possibly large gathering, there I was opening
>> up the idea
>> to my client that we should have a self-selection of
>> participants in
>> the open space by use of open invitation letters to the
>> possible
>> participants. My client did not like that.
>>
>> How have these 1000 people been selected to take part in
>> the open
>> space and dose that mater in any way?
>>
>> with a breeze from Iceland
>> K?ri
>>
>> On 10 July 2013 19:56, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net
>> <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>> > Sharon Joy -- What a joy (excuse the pun) to see you
>> here! You do have a
>> > hand full, but it will be fun. With large groups, my
>> biggest concern is
>> > always to have enough space. And 1000 people do need
>> some major room to
>> > maneuver, particularly when the time is short. Two
>> spaces are critical: in
>> > the center of the circle, and at the wall. With that
>> many people I would
>> > look for a center open space of 100 feet across. It is
>> more than likely that
>> > you will have 100-150 people all rushing to the center,
>> and that will become
>> > quite confusing if they don?t have any room. And at the
>> wall ? remember that
>> > there will be a time when you have 1000 people all
>> trying to read what is up
>> > there (issues) and make their session selections. If the
>> wall is too short,
>> > the people will bunch up, and when people are standing
>> 5-6 deep, it will get
>> > frustrating and things will move slowly. My rule of
>> thumb is 6 inches of
>> > wall per participant. That way people will never be more
>> than 2-3 deep. You
>> > can get away with less wall, but, but you do pay a
>> price. In terms of time
>> > periods I would suggest 1 ? hours for the opening, 2 --
>> 1 hour Sessions, and
>> > a half hour for the close, maybe even less. It is all
>> ?doable? but I do have
>> > to ask: Why just 4 hours?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I suspicion the answer is something like ? there will be
>> speeches and
>> > presentations in the morning, which presumably will
>> provide the people with
>> > the necessary inspiration and information to do the job.
>> However, every time
>> > I have been in a situation like that, the information
>> provided was never
>> > enough, and the inspiration imparted simply didn?t do
>> the job. More to the
>> > point, there is an implicit statement made which I find
>> most troubling. It
>> > would seem that the wisdom of the several ?presenters?
>> somehow was equal to
>> > and/or took precedence over the collective wisdom and
>> experience of 1000
>> > people. Of course this could be true, but if it is, I
>> seriously doubt that
>> > Opening Space will do all that much good. Probably
>> better to just fire
>> > (terminate) the lot. On the other hand, if that 1000
>> person collective
>> > wisdom is of the sort and depth I suspect it to be ? the
>> allocation of time
>> > is, if nothing else, short sighted and disrespectful. It
>> might seem that the
>> > ?idiots and children? will be allowed a little play time
>> after the experts
>> > and adults have set the stage. Am I suggesting that you
>> and your colleagues
>> > thought this way? Definitely not. But that is a possible
>> conclusion based on
>> > the facts on the ground. And I have definitely
>> experienced situations where
>> > the ?thought? not only occurred, but was totally
>> conscious. Worst case was a
>> > CEO of a large American corporation who was heard to
>> say, ?Never turn the
>> > asylum over to the inmates.? The Asylum, of course was
>> the company, and the
>> > ?inmates? were all the employees. Is it any wonder that
>> creativity and
>> > innovation at that company were virtually non-existent,
>> and that employee
>> > morale was dismal? Thankfully the company is now out of
>> business.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Doubtless I have gone way too far here, and knowing you
>> Sharon Joy, I know
>> > that such thoughts would never enter your mind. That
>> said, I find that
>> > sometimes what we do speaks so much louder than what we
>> think or say. And
>> > even worse when our actions are the direct antithesis of
>> our real
>> > intentions.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Harrison
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Harrison Owen
>> >
>> > 7808 River Falls Dr.
>> >
>> > Potomac, MD 20854
>> >
>> > USA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>> >
>> > Camden, Maine 04843
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Phone 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>
>> >
>> > (summer) 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> >
>> > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com> (Personal
>> Website)
>> >
>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>> archives of OSLIST
>> > Go
>> to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> > [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On
>> Behalf Of Sharon Joy Chao
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 8:39 PM
>> > To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> > Subject: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government
>> people to go through
>> > an exploratory discussion on high performance system,
>> all under 4 hours.
>> >
>> > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu.
>> The focus is on the
>> > Philippine government service, its performance
>> management system and how it
>> > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>> >
>> > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with
>> some incredible
>> > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to
>> post on OSList.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of
>> thousand in 4 hours time?
>> >
>> > Maraming Salamat.
>> >
>> > ========================================
>> > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
>> > SEAMEO INNOTECH
>> > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
>> > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
>> > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
>> > Fax (632) 928-7692
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > OSList mailing list
>> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> > To unsubscribe send an email to
>> OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
>> >
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> K?ri Gunnarsson
>> kari at openspace.is <mailto:kari at openspace.is>
>> gsm: +354 8645189 <tel:%2B354%208645189>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:00:29 +0200
>> From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com
>> <mailto:mmpannwitz at gmail.com>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>> Message-ID: <51DE580D.6040408 at gmail.com
>> <mailto:51DE580D.6040408 at gmail.com>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>>
>> Dear Kari,
>> if an invitation is sent to all that the Planning Group
>> (sponsor
>> included) want to be at the event under the
>> approach/question "who
>> should be at the event so that the stuff we expect from
>> the event under
>> the Heading we came up with for the event will happen?"
>> those receiving
>> the invitation respond to the invitation the way one would
>> usually
>> respond: accept or decline (selfselection).
>> Huge advantage of this selfselection is that the people
>> picking up their
>> spirit and body to come are the right people.
>> People that come because they ought to, feel they have to,
>> are forced to
>> etc. are also selfselecting themselves.
>> And all that show up hear my words about "The Law" and my
>> invitation to
>> "obey" it (at least twice in the event)... listening to
>> their feedback I
>> find that most folks find it liberating when they follow
>> The Law, and
>> stay and participate (passionately).
>> Now, this is not really an answer to your question on the
>> selection of
>> the 1000 people.
>> The event that HO refers to occasionally (the event with 2108
>> participants) took place at the end of a five day
>> conference with 3500
>> folks in attendance. In the invitation to the conference
>> people wanting
>> to attend the OST part had to sign up for it seperately
>> (this determined
>> how many cushions we bought and how much food was supplied
>> and how many
>> toilets had to be set up etc.) and pay an additonal fee.
>> In this way, following the invitation meant putting down
>> some extra
>> money, filling out a form with their contact data for the
>> documentation
>> all in addition to the decision that they wanted to be
>> part of it. These
>> kinds of commitments are perhaps trivial but many sponsors
>> are trying to
>> avoid to attach those commitments to the invitation to
>> make it "easier"
>> for people to come... also a form of control.
>>
>> Like the breeze from Iceland which actually arrived during
>> the night and
>> brought a refreshingly cool morning
>> Greetings from Berlin
>> mmp
>>
>> On 11.07.2013 07:55, K?ri Gunnarsson wrote:
>> > A question here
>> >
>> > I have been a bit confused about the selection process
>> for open space.
>> > In my last possibly large gathering, there I was opening
>> up the idea
>> > to my client that we should have a self-selection of
>> participants in
>> > the open space by use of open invitation letters to the
>> possible
>> > participants. My client did not like that.
>> >
>> > How have these 1000 people been selected to take part in
>> the open
>> > space and dose that mater in any way?
>> >
>> > with a breeze from Iceland
>> > K?ri
>> >
>> > On 10 July 2013 19:56, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net
>> <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>> >> Sharon Joy -- What a joy (excuse the pun) to see you
>> here! You do have a
>> >> hand full, but it will be fun. With large groups, my
>> biggest concern is
>> >> always to have enough space. And 1000 people do need
>> some major room to
>> >> maneuver, particularly when the time is short. Two
>> spaces are critical: in
>> >> the center of the circle, and at the wall. With that
>> many people I would
>> >> look for a center open space of 100 feet across. It is
>> more than likely that
>> >> you will have 100-150 people all rushing to the center,
>> and that will become
>> >> quite confusing if they don?t have any room. And at the
>> wall ? remember that
>> >> there will be a time when you have 1000 people all
>> trying to read what is up
>> >> there (issues) and make their session selections. If
>> the wall is too short,
>> >> the people will bunch up, and when people are standing
>> 5-6 deep, it will get
>> >> frustrating and things will move slowly. My rule of
>> thumb is 6 inches of
>> >> wall per participant. That way people will never be
>> more than 2-3 deep. You
>> >> can get away with less wall, but, but you do pay a
>> price. In terms of time
>> >> periods I would suggest 1 ? hours for the opening, 2 --
>> 1 hour Sessions, and
>> >> a half hour for the close, maybe even less. It is all
>> ?doable? but I do have
>> >> to ask: Why just 4 hours?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I suspicion the answer is something like ? there will
>> be speeches and
>> >> presentations in the morning, which presumably will
>> provide the people with
>> >> the necessary inspiration and information to do the
>> job. However, every time
>> >> I have been in a situation like that, the information
>> provided was never
>> >> enough, and the inspiration imparted simply didn?t do
>> the job. More to the
>> >> point, there is an implicit statement made which I find
>> most troubling. It
>> >> would seem that the wisdom of the several ?presenters?
>> somehow was equal to
>> >> and/or took precedence over the collective wisdom and
>> experience of 1000
>> >> people. Of course this could be true, but if it is, I
>> seriously doubt that
>> >> Opening Space will do all that much good. Probably
>> better to just fire
>> >> (terminate) the lot. On the other hand, if that 1000
>> person collective
>> >> wisdom is of the sort and depth I suspect it to be ?
>> the allocation of time
>> >> is, if nothing else, short sighted and disrespectful.
>> It might seem that the
>> >> ?idiots and children? will be allowed a little play
>> time after the experts
>> >> and adults have set the stage. Am I suggesting that you
>> and your colleagues
>> >> thought this way? Definitely not. But that is a
>> possible conclusion based on
>> >> the facts on the ground. And I have definitely
>> experienced situations where
>> >> the ?thought? not only occurred, but was totally
>> conscious. Worst case was a
>> >> CEO of a large American corporation who was heard to
>> say, ?Never turn the
>> >> asylum over to the inmates.? The Asylum, of course was
>> the company, and the
>> >> ?inmates? were all the employees. Is it any wonder that
>> creativity and
>> >> innovation at that company were virtually non-existent,
>> and that employee
>> >> morale was dismal? Thankfully the company is now out of
>> business.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Doubtless I have gone way too far here, and knowing you
>> Sharon Joy, I know
>> >> that such thoughts would never enter your mind. That
>> said, I find that
>> >> sometimes what we do speaks so much louder than what we
>> think or say. And
>> >> even worse when our actions are the direct antithesis
>> of our real
>> >> intentions.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Harrison
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Harrison Owen
>> >>
>> >> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>> >>
>> >> Potomac, MD 20854
>> >>
>> >> USA
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>> >>
>> >> Camden, Maine 04843
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Phone 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>
>> >>
>> >> (summer) 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> >>
>> >> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com> (Personal
>> Website)
>> >>
>> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view
>> the archives of OSLIST
>> >> Go
>> to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> >> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On
>> Behalf Of Sharon Joy Chao
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 8:39 PM
>> >> To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> >> Subject: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government
>> people to go through
>> >> an exploratory discussion on high performance system,
>> all under 4 hours.
>> >>
>> >> This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu.
>> The focus is on the
>> >> Philippine government service, its performance
>> management system and how it
>> >> can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>> >>
>> >> Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with
>> some incredible
>> >> suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me
>> to post on OSList.
>> >>
>> >> Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of
>> thousand in 4 hours time?
>> >>
>> >> Maraming Salamat.
>> >>
>> >> ========================================
>> >> Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
>> >> SEAMEO INNOTECH
>> >> Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
>> >> Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
>> >> Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
>> >> Fax (632) 928-7692
>> >>
>> >>
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>>
>>
>>
>> Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 410
>> resident Open
>> Space Workers in 72 countries working in a total of 143
>> countries
>> worldwide: www.openspaceworldmap.org
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:04:55 +0000
>> From: K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is
>> <mailto:kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Subject: [OSList] open space in jeeps
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAEjHsLn7rSAd-46wTrCVy1EoSXgyNTw1K91W7qKKv+qb_C+VMw at mail.gmail.com
>> <mailto:CAEjHsLn7rSAd-46wTrCVy1EoSXgyNTw1K91W7qKKv+qb_C+VMw at mail.gmail.com>>
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>>
>> I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has ever
>> attempted to
>> host a moving open space.
>>
>> If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then
>> perhaps it would
>> be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the road.
>> In my
>> extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years we
>> meet for a
>> road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and is
>> like an open
>> space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we stop
>> for an hour
>> in different locations where the power of the coffee brake
>> takes over
>> and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked
>> about. This
>> year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and
>> mixing up the
>> groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it
>> would continue
>> in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps was also
>> changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even
>> with the
>> possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have nice
>> clothing that
>> protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then we
>> keep our
>> papers in the jeeps.
>>
>> Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of
>> impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any wall
>> space would
>> need to be virtual. We already have good place markers
>> that we take
>> with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different
>> discussion
>> group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots would
>> be the place
>> names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at Geysir"
>> would be a
>> group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at the
>> Geysir
>> site.
>>
>> The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted
>> with a site
>> guide that dumps to much information in to short of a time
>> and hurries
>> along so most of the people become to tiered to talk about
>> other
>> maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have some
>> light and
>> informative information of the sites by use of the comm
>> system in the
>> jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag along
>> and enjoy the
>> sites while conversing with our groups by giving a little
>> more time, I
>> would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to
>> take in the
>> site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel the
>> spiritual
>> dimension of the discussion.
>>
>> In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a group
>> of jeep
>> traveling have almost all the parts that can be used for a
>> good open
>> space practice. The only missing part would be the wall
>> that would
>> need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone
>> application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system.
>>
>> There are two major factors that drive me to these
>> thoughts, one is
>> that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be stuck
>> in a building
>> when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that I
>> like groups
>> to come to my small country for experiencing these marvels
>> while going
>> on with the business that matters.
>>
>> Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments are
>> welcome.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:53:30 +0200
>> From: gerardo de luzenberger <xge at loci.it
>> <mailto:xge at loci.it>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] open space in jeeps
>> Message-ID:
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>> <mailto:CANk02oP5Zhpaof9ewvDvJ2TxYovyP5M=Fi6uF-7-+0Qsu8+tHw at mail.gmail.com>>
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>>
>> Hi Kari, what marvellous story.
>> While reading I was just wondering
>> what happens to the law of two feet and
>> how you manage to aloud butterflying.
>> Are those lovely creatures that are just
>> there doing nothing sitting on a special car?
>> ge
>>
>> *Gerardo de Luzenberger**
>> ****Mob: +39 3293281343 <tel:%2B39%203293281343>*
>> *Tel: +39 02 89751746 <tel:%2B39%2002%2089751746>*
>> *Fax: +39 02 87151318 <tel:%2B39%2002%2087151318> *
>> *Skype: gerardodeluz ?
>> *xge at loci.it
>> <mailto:xge at loci.it><https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/blocked::mailto:xge@loci.it>
>> *IAF: Certified Professional Facilitator*
>>
>> *genius**loci *
>>
>> *facilitation & development
>> PREMIO IMPRESA INNOVATIVA E CREATIVA
>> DELLA PROVINCIA DI MILANO
>> *www.loci.it <http://www.loci.it>
>> <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/blocked::http://www.loci.it/>
>> ?
>> info at loci.it <mailto:info at loci.it>
>> <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/blocked::mailto:info@loci.it>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/geniusloci/
>>
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>>
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>>
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>> strettamente
>> confidenziali. Ne ? vietata la diffusione e l'uso non
>> autorizzato. Qualora
>> il presente messaggio le fosse pervenuto per errore, le
>> saremmo grati se lo
>> distruggesse e, via e-mail, ce ne comunicasse l'errata
>> ricezione
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>>
>>
>> 2013/7/11 K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is
>> <mailto:kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>>
>>
>> > I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has ever
>> attempted to
>> > host a moving open space.
>> >
>> > If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then
>> perhaps it would
>> > be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the
>> road. In my
>> > extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years
>> we meet for a
>> > road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and is
>> like an open
>> > space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we stop
>> for an hour
>> > in different locations where the power of the coffee
>> brake takes over
>> > and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked
>> about. This
>> > year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and
>> mixing up the
>> > groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it
>> would continue
>> > in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps was
>> also
>> > changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even
>> with the
>> > possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have nice
>> clothing that
>> > protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then
>> we keep our
>> > papers in the jeeps.
>> >
>> > Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of
>> > impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any
>> wall space would
>> > need to be virtual. We already have good place markers
>> that we take
>> > with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different
>> discussion
>> > group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots would
>> be the place
>> > names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at
>> Geysir" would be a
>> > group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at
>> the Geysir
>> > site.
>> >
>> > The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted
>> with a site
>> > guide that dumps to much information in to short of a
>> time and hurries
>> > along so most of the people become to tiered to talk
>> about other
>> > maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have some
>> light and
>> > informative information of the sites by use of the comm
>> system in the
>> > jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag along
>> and enjoy the
>> > sites while conversing with our groups by giving a
>> little more time, I
>> > would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to
>> take in the
>> > site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel the
>> spiritual
>> > dimension of the discussion.
>> >
>> > In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a
>> group of jeep
>> > traveling have almost all the parts that can be used for
>> a good open
>> > space practice. The only missing part would be the wall
>> that would
>> > need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone
>> > application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system.
>> >
>> > There are two major factors that drive me to these
>> thoughts, one is
>> > that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be stuck
>> in a building
>> > when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that I
>> like groups
>> > to come to my small country for experiencing these
>> marvels while going
>> > on with the business that matters.
>> >
>> > Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments are
>> welcome.
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 11:23:40 +0000
>> From: K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is
>> <mailto:kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] open space in jeeps
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>>
>> Hi Gerardo
>>
>> I have often been butterflying with my mind out of the
>> window enjoying
>> the marvels of the landscape while begin a passenger of a
>> Jeep, taking
>> no notice of the conversations happening next to me.
>>
>> In our Open Space Jeep ride with frequent stops for sites and
>> conversations and many Jeeps, the butterflies will see the
>> sites and
>> find them sleeves in different jeeps all of the time.
>>
>> I think Ill draft out a fun 3 day tour and an empowering 5
>> day tour
>> for this new moving by jeep open space format, with
>> hot-spring outdoor
>> thermal pools, geysers, volcanic lava-fields, waterfalls,
>> glaciers,
>> Nordic buffets, green energy sites and all the traditional
>> fun stuff,
>> ready for a topic and an invited group.
>>
>> with a breeze from Iceland
>> K?ri
>>
>>
>> On 11 July 2013 10:53, gerardo de luzenberger <xge at loci.it
>> <mailto:xge at loci.it>> wrote:
>> > Hi Kari, what marvellous story.
>> > While reading I was just wondering
>> > what happens to the law of two feet and
>> > how you manage to aloud butterflying.
>> > Are those lovely creatures that are just
>> > there doing nothing sitting on a special car?
>> > ge
>> >
>> > Gerardo de Luzenberger
>> > Mob: +39 3293281343 <tel:%2B39%203293281343>
>> > Tel: +39 02 89751746 <tel:%2B39%2002%2089751746>
>> > Fax: +39 02 87151318 <tel:%2B39%2002%2087151318>
>> > Skype: gerardodeluz ? xge at loci.it <mailto:xge at loci.it>
>> > IAF: Certified Professional Facilitator
>> >
>> > geniusloci
>> >
>> > facilitation & development
>> > PREMIO IMPRESA INNOVATIVA E CREATIVA
>> > DELLA PROVINCIA DI MILANO
>> > www.loci.it <http://www.loci.it> ? info at loci.it
>> <mailto:info at loci.it> http://www.flickr.com/photos/geniusloci/
>> >
>> > Sede legale: Via A. Volta 12 - 20121 Milano ? Italy
>> > Uffici: Via A. Volta 6 - 20121 Milano ? Italy
>> >
>> > Prima di stampare questa mail pensa all'ambiente! Please
>> consider the
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>> autorizzato. Qualora
>> > il presente messaggio le fosse pervenuto per errore, le
>> saremmo grati se lo
>> > distruggesse e, via e-mail, ce ne comunicasse l'errata
>> ricezione
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>> > This e-mail (and any attachment(s)) is strictly
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>> > only by intended recipient(s). If you are not an
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/7/11 K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is
>> <mailto:kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>>
>> >>
>> >> I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has
>> ever attempted to
>> >> host a moving open space.
>> >>
>> >> If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then
>> perhaps it would
>> >> be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the
>> road. In my
>> >> extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years
>> we meet for a
>> >> road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and
>> is like an open
>> >> space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we
>> stop for an hour
>> >> in different locations where the power of the coffee
>> brake takes over
>> >> and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked
>> about. This
>> >> year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and
>> mixing up the
>> >> groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it
>> would continue
>> >> in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps
>> was also
>> >> changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even
>> with the
>> >> possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have
>> nice clothing that
>> >> protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then
>> we keep our
>> >> papers in the jeeps.
>> >>
>> >> Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of
>> >> impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any
>> wall space would
>> >> need to be virtual. We already have good place markers
>> that we take
>> >> with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different
>> discussion
>> >> group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots
>> would be the place
>> >> names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at
>> Geysir" would be a
>> >> group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at
>> the Geysir
>> >> site.
>> >>
>> >> The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted
>> with a site
>> >> guide that dumps to much information in to short of a
>> time and hurries
>> >> along so most of the people become to tiered to talk
>> about other
>> >> maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have
>> some light and
>> >> informative information of the sites by use of the comm
>> system in the
>> >> jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag
>> along and enjoy the
>> >> sites while conversing with our groups by giving a
>> little more time, I
>> >> would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to
>> take in the
>> >> site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel
>> the spiritual
>> >> dimension of the discussion.
>> >>
>> >> In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a
>> group of jeep
>> >> traveling have almost all the parts that can be used
>> for a good open
>> >> space practice. The only missing part would be the wall
>> that would
>> >> need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone
>> >> application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system.
>> >>
>> >> There are two major factors that drive me to these
>> thoughts, one is
>> >> that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be
>> stuck in a building
>> >> when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that
>> I like groups
>> >> to come to my small country for experiencing these
>> marvels while going
>> >> on with the business that matters.
>> >>
>> >> Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments
>> are welcome.
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> OSList mailing list
>> >> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org>
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>> >
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>>
>>
>> --
>> K?ri Gunnarsson
>> kari at openspace.is <mailto:kari at openspace.is>
>> gsm: +354 8645189 <tel:%2B354%208645189>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:35:31 -0400
>> From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net
>> <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>>
>> To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>> Message-ID: <000301ce7e33$2242d440$66c87cc0$@net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Scott - When teaching a kid to ride a bike, you only push
>> as long as you
>> have to. When the kid takes off - Let Them Go! In my
>> experience, when riding
>> the "Open Space Bike" a 15 min push will do the job,
>> provided the conditions
>> are right (real issue, complexity, diversity, etc).
>> Actually, with every
>> group I've ever worked with - large or small - it seems
>> like they already
>> knew how to ride. They just needed a gentle reminder - and
>> off they went. No
>> help needed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison Owen
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>
>> USA
>>
>>
>>
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>>
>> Camden, Maine 04843
>>
>>
>>
>> Phone 301-365-2093
>>
>> (summer) 207-763-3261
>>
>>
>>
>> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>>
>> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com> (Personal Website)
>>
>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
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>>
>> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf
>> Of Scott Gassman
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:48 PM
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think
>> about the "ZERO
>> confidence," "about what is going on."
>>
>> That's good material for me to think about as I approach
>> future group
>> work.
>>
>> I am touched by your Kathie story. Kathie's respect for
>> you came out in a
>> conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and so
>> she really steered
>> me towards learning with you and Lisa up in Maine. I do
>> remember you leaving
>> to take a nap and me scratching my head - how - in the
>> middle, can you let
>> go? I guess until now I dance between the freedom of Open
>> Space and joint
>> design team sharing that anchors me to do as much as I can
>> to support the
>> group and deliver a quick start. I want the
>> organizational team to discover
>> and I also want to have them have those first few steps of
>> how to get going
>> on their own.
>>
>> I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also
>> "out of control,"
>> aiming to get them to keep pedaling and stay up.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Scott said - "Not all of us have your (that's me - HO)
>> confidence, clarity
>> or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an
>> organization we
>> may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially
>> filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large
>> group movement."
>>
>>
>>
>> Nice words, Scott - but once again I have a different
>> take. Truth is I have
>> ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my
>> "competence in all
>> situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we
>> may live/work in
>> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose
>> shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement."
>> Quite to the
>> contrary, I know totally and completely that I will NEVER
>> have a real clue
>> about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast
>> moving, opaque...
>> BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is
>> to invite them to
>> do what only they know how to do - and then, as quickly as
>> possible, get out
>> of the way. Usually to take a napJ
>>
>>
>>
>> And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend.
>> I respect her
>> greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what
>> she did, she didn't
>> use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was - "I'd be
>> terrified ... it
>> could get out of control." The big secret, of course, was
>> that she (as we
>> all are) was always out of control - so there was nothing
>> to lose.
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison Owen
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>
>> USA
>>
>>
>>
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>>
>> Camden, Maine 04843
>>
>>
>>
>> Phone 301-365-2093
>>
>> (summer) 207-763-3261
>>
>>
>>
>> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20>
>>
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>>
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>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf
>> Of Scott Gassman
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>>
>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Harrison,
>>
>>
>>
>> Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how
>> to proceed and be
>> hopefully clearer about her design decisions.
>>
>> I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the
>> authenticity of how you
>> have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.
>>
>> Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence
>> in all situations
>> to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
>> and/or the
>> process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats,
>> whose shadow can slow
>> down the speed of large group movement.
>>
>> Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my
>> Kathie Dannemiller
>> lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make
>> the process
>> consciously the participants' process.
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Scott - I guess I really have a different take. I have
>> never seen any reason
>> to "plant" topics, or emplace "spark plugs." In every
>> situation with large
>> groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) - the
>> people do it all by
>> themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is
>> faster, and more
>> furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really
>> rolls. You just got to
>> get out of the way quickly - which is why I would make
>> sure the opening was
>> fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only - and on
>> with the show! Of
>> course the "necessary conditions" must be in place (real
>> business issue,
>> complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) - and
>> from there on out
>> the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create
>> bulletin board,
>> open market place - and go to work. Nothing else needed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison Owen
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>
>> USA
>>
>>
>>
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>>
>> Camden, Maine 04843
>>
>>
>>
>> Phone 301-365-2093
>>
>> (summer) 207-763-3261
>>
>>
>>
>> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20>
>>
>> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
>> <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)
>>
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>>
>> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf
>> Of Scott Gassman
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Sharon Joy,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our
>> experience and
>> imagination.
>>
>> Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For
>> me the joy of a
>> laid back
>>
>> OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger
>> numbers and
>> logistics. I
>>
>> want people to see what they can get done when they are
>> focused and led
>> through
>>
>> well planned OS tasks.
>>
>> I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants
>> to walk away with.
>> I try to
>>
>> get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of
>> design teams
>> preceding
>>
>> any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10
>> vertically
>> positioned
>>
>> influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get
>> together and confirm
>> sought
>>
>> desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a
>> list of important
>> topics
>>
>> for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital
>> few examples. I
>> would also
>>
>> encourage this group to recognize the significance of
>> their role and to
>> serve as
>>
>> spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.
>>
>> However the session is opened, I would include a design
>> team member or two
>> to share their
>>
>> hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly
>> share the list of
>> topics as examples
>>
>> for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them
>> per the "high
>> performance
>>
>> system"sought.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a great opportunity for your government to work
>> together.
>>
>> I also look forward to learning about your experience and
>> next steps.
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott Gassman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao
>> <sharon at seameo-innotech.org
>> <mailto:sharon at seameo-innotech.org>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government
>> people to go through
>> an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all
>> under 4 hours.
>>
>> This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The
>> focus is on the
>> Philippine government service, its performance management
>> system and how it
>> can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>>
>> Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some
>> incredible
>> suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to
>> post on OSList.
>>
>> Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of
>> thousand in 4 hours time?
>>
>>
>> Maraming Salamat.
>>
>> ========================================
>> Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
>> SEAMEO INNOTECH
>> Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
>> Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
>> Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
>> Fax (632) 928-7692
>>
>>
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 14:38:15 +0200
>> From: Lise Damkj?r <lise at learning4life.dk
>> <mailto:lise at learning4life.dk>>
>> To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
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>> Subject: Re: [OSList] open space in jeeps
>> Message-ID: <51DEA737.2070201 at learning4life.dk
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>> Hey K?ri
>>
>> I really like your idea - I certainly would like to enjoy
>> Iceland and do
>> an open space at the same time - lot of fun with the jeeps
>> as well I think.
>>
>> I hope your idea will grow and become thrue one day...
>>
>> Lise, Copenhagen
>>
>> Den 11-07-2013 10:04, K?ri Gunnarsson skrev:
>> > I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has ever
>> attempted to
>> > host a moving open space.
>> >
>> > If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then
>> perhaps it would
>> > be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the
>> road. In my
>> > extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years
>> we meet for a
>> > road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and is
>> like an open
>> > space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we stop
>> for an hour
>> > in different locations where the power of the coffee
>> brake takes over
>> > and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked
>> about. This
>> > year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and
>> mixing up the
>> > groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it
>> would continue
>> > in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps was
>> also
>> > changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even
>> with the
>> > possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have nice
>> clothing that
>> > protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then
>> we keep our
>> > papers in the jeeps.
>> >
>> > Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of
>> > impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any
>> wall space would
>> > need to be virtual. We already have good place markers
>> that we take
>> > with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different
>> discussion
>> > group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots would
>> be the place
>> > names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at
>> Geysir" would be a
>> > group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at
>> the Geysir
>> > site.
>> >
>> > The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted
>> with a site
>> > guide that dumps to much information in to short of a
>> time and hurries
>> > along so most of the people become to tiered to talk
>> about other
>> > maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have some
>> light and
>> > informative information of the sites by use of the comm
>> system in the
>> > jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag along
>> and enjoy the
>> > sites while conversing with our groups by giving a
>> little more time, I
>> > would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to
>> take in the
>> > site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel the
>> spiritual
>> > dimension of the discussion.
>> >
>> > In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a
>> group of jeep
>> > traveling have almost all the parts that can be used for
>> a good open
>> > space practice. The only missing part would be the wall
>> that would
>> > need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone
>> > application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system.
>> >
>> > There are two major factors that drive me to these
>> thoughts, one is
>> > that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be stuck
>> in a building
>> > when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that I
>> like groups
>> > to come to my small country for experiencing these
>> marvels while going
>> > on with the business that matters.
>> >
>> > Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments are
>> welcome.
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>> Message: 12
>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 06:33:30 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: chunili2000 at yahoo.com <mailto:chunili2000 at yahoo.com>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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>>
>> Interesting discussion...
>> Scott, you said: "I want the organizational team to
>> discover and I also want to have them have those first few
>> steps of how to get going on their own.?" What do THEY want?
>> ?
>> I guess a fundamental message that needs to be clearly
>> conveyed?from the outset?is who's responsible for the
>> outcomes of the meeting? If you are, and so communicated,
>> I can see your desire to make sure certain things
>> happen...but if they are, and agree to it, then you are
>> simply providing an environment that allows them to be
>> their own leaders and be responsible for their?own
>> passions. If things don't turn out to their satisfaction,
>> there is something to be learned?about themselves.
>> ?
>> I would focus the planning on the logistics so that the
>> least amount of time is wasted.
>> ?
>> ?
>> ?
>> Chuni Li
>> ?
>>
>> ?
>> From: Scott Gassman <scott.gassman at gmail.com
>> <mailto:scott.gassman at gmail.com>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison,
>>
>> I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think
>> about the "ZERO confidence," "about what is going on."?
>> That's ?good ?material for me to think about as I approach
>> future group work.?
>> I am touched by your Kathie story. ?Kathie's respect for
>> you came out in a conversation and made me want to learn
>> Open Space, and so she really steered me towards learning
>> with you and Lisa up in Maine. I do remember you leaving
>> to take a nap and me scratching my head - how - in the
>> middle, can you let go? I guess until now I dance between
>> the freedom of Open Space and joint?design team?sharing
>> that anchors me to do as much as I can to support the
>> group and deliver a quick start. ?I want the
>> organizational team to discover and I also want to have
>> them have those first few steps of how to get going on
>> their own.?
>> I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also
>> "out of control," aiming to get them to keep pedaling ?and
>> stay up.
>>
>> Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO)
>> confidence, clarity or competence in all situations to
>> trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
>> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large
>> group movement.??
>> >?
>> >Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different
>> take. Truth is I have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of
>> clarity, in my ?competence in all situations to trust
>> (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
>> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large
>> group movement.? Quite to the contrary, ?I know totally
>> and completely that I will NEVER have a real clue about
>> what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast
>> moving, opaque... BUT the people do. My only
>> responsibility (possibility) is to invite them to do what
>> only they know how to do ? and then, as quickly as
>> possible, get out of the way. Usually to take a napJ
>> >?
>> >And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend.
>> I respect her greatly. And... somebody once asked her why,
>> given what she did, she didn?t use Open Space. Her reply,
>> as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be terrified ... it could get
>> out of control.? The big secret, of course, was that she
>> (as we all are) was always out of control ? so there was
>> nothing to lose.
>> >Harrison
>> >?
>> >?
>> >?
>> >Harrison Owen
>> >7808 River Falls Dr.
>> >Potomac, MD 20854
>> >USA
>> >?
>> >189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>> >Camden, Maine 04843
>> >?
>> >Phone 301-365-2093
>> >(summer)? 207-763-3261
>> >?
>> >www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> >www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com> (Personal Website)
>> >To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>> archives of OSLIST Go
>> to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>> >?
>> >From:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf
>> Of Scott Gassman
>> >Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>> >
>> >To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> >Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>> >?
>> >Hi Harrison,
>> >?
>> >Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how
>> to proceed and be hopefully clearer about her design
>> decisions.
>> >I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly,"?and the
>> authenticity of how you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I
>> love it when I do it.
>> >Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence
>> in all situations to trust ourselves, in an organization
>> we may live/work in and/or the process in a room
>> potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow
>> down the speed of large group movement.?
>> >Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my
>> Kathie Dannemiller lessons about Design Teams has helped
>> me to usually make the process consciously the
>> participants' process.
>> >?
>> >Scott
>> >?
>> >On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>> >Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have
>> never seen any reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark
>> plugs.? In every situation with large groups in my
>> experience (my largest was 2108 J) ? the people do it all
>> by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is
>> faster, and more furious with a large group. Once it
>> rolls, it really rolls. You just got to get out of the way
>> quickly ? which is why I would make sure the opening was
>> fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only ? and on
>> with the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must
>> be in place (real business issue, complexity, diversity,
>> passion, conflict, urgency) ? and from there on out the
>> only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create
>> bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work.
>> Nothing else needed.
>> >?
>> >Harrison
>> >?
>> >Harrison Owen
>> >7808 River Falls Dr.
>> >Potomac, MD 20854
>> >USA
>> >?
>> >189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>> >Camden, Maine 04843
>> >?
>> >Phone 301-365-2093
>> >(summer)? 207-763-3261
>> >?
>> >http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/
>> >http://www.ho-image.com%20/ (Personal Website)
>> >To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>> archives of OSLIST Go
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>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf
>> Of Scott Gassman
>> >Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
>> >To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> >Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>> >?
>> >Hi Sharon Joy,
>> >?
>> >Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our
>> experience and imagination.
>> >Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought.
>> For me the joy of a laid back?
>> >OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger
>> numbers and logistics. I?
>> >want people to?see what they can get done when they are
>> focused and led through?
>> >well planned OS tasks.?
>> >I think about the?outcome/purpose the client/group wants
>> to walk away with. I try to?
>> >get clear on their?goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of
>> design teams preceding?
>> >any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to
>> 10 vertically positioned?
>> >influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get
>> together and confirm sought?
>> >desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a
>> list of important topics
>> >for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital
>> few examples. I would also?
>> >encourage this group to recognize the significance of
>> their role and to serve as?
>> >spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.
>> >However the session is opened, I would include a design
>> team member or two to share their?
>> >hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly
>> share the list of topics as examples?
>> >for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them
>> per the "high performance?
>> >system"sought.
>> >?
>> >This is a great opportunity for your government to work
>> together.
>> >I also look forward to learning about your experience and
>> next steps.
>> >?
>> >Scott Gassman
>> >?
>> >?
>> >?
>> >On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao
>> <sharon at seameo-innotech.org
>> <mailto:sharon at seameo-innotech.org>> wrote:
>> >Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government
>> people to go through an exploratory discussion on high
>> performance system, all under 4 hours.
>> >
>> >This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu.
>> The focus is on the Philippine government service, its
>> performance management system and how it can be truly
>> essential, responsive and life-giving.
>> >
>> >Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some
>> incredible suggestions on how to proceed and she also
>> advised me to post on OSList.
>> >
>> >Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of
>> thousand in 4 hours time?
>> >
>> >Maraming Salamat.
>> >
>> >========================================
>> >Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
>> >SEAMEO INNOTECH
>> >Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
>> >Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
>> >Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
>> >Fax (632) 928-7692
>> >
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>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:38:20 +0200
>> From: Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring
>> <adriana at diazberrio.com <mailto:adriana at diazberrio.com>>
>> To: chunili2000 at yahoo.com <mailto:chunili2000 at yahoo.com>,
>> World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
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>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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>> Hello: Responding to the question about an OS for a large
>> group but e few
>> hours I agree with Lisa and I want to say that yes it is
>> very importqnt to
>> have a lot os space for the agenda. I had 320 participants
>> last week and
>> this was a problem because they had problems getting to
>> the wall to read.
>> For the closing circle they helped put the chairs back in
>> circles and I
>> just took a few interventions but it was really interesting!
>>
>> Adriana
>>
>> 2013/7/11 <chunili2000 at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:chunili2000 at yahoo.com>>
>>
>> > Interesting discussion...
>> > Scott, you said: "I want the organizational team to
>> discover and I also
>> > want to have them have those first few steps of how to
>> get going on their
>> > own. " What do THEY want?
>> >
>> > I guess a fundamental message that needs to be clearly
>> conveyed from the
>> > outset is who's responsible for the outcomes of the
>> meeting? If you are,
>> > and so communicated, I can see your desire to make sure
>> certain things
>> > happen...but if they are, and agree to it, then you are
>> simply providing an
>> > environment that allows them to be their own leaders and
>> be responsible for
>> > their own passions. If things don't turn out to their
>> satisfaction, there
>> > is something to be learned about themselves.
>> >
>> > I would focus the planning on the logistics so that the
>> least amount of
>> > time is wasted.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Chuni Li
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > *From:* Scott Gassman <scott.gassman at gmail.com
>> <mailto:scott.gassman at gmail.com>>
>> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list <
>> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:47 PM
>> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>> >
>> > Harrison,
>> >
>> > I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think
>> about the "ZERO
>> > confidence," "about what is going on."
>> > That's good material for me to think about as I
>> approach future group
>> > work.
>> > I am touched by your Kathie story. Kathie's respect for
>> you came out in a
>> > conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and
>> so she really
>> > steered me towards learning with you and Lisa up in
>> Maine. I do remember
>> > you leaving to take a nap and me scratching my head -
>> how - in the middle,
>> > can you let go? I guess until now I dance between the
>> freedom of Open Space
>> > and joint design team sharing that anchors me to do as
>> much as I can to
>> > support the group and deliver a quick start. I want the
>> organizational
>> > team to discover and I also want to have them have those
>> first few steps of
>> > how to get going on their own.
>> > I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle,
>> also "out of
>> > control," aiming to get them to keep pedaling and stay up.
>> >
>> > Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy.
>> >
>> > Scott
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO)
>> confidence,
>> > clarity or competence in all situations to trust
>> ourselves, in an
>> > organization we may live/work in and/or the process in a
>> room potentially
>> > filled with bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the
>> speed of large
>> > group movement.? ****
>> > ** **
>> > Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different
>> take. Truth is I
>> > have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my
>> ?competence in all
>> > situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we
>> may live/work in
>> > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose
>> > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.?
>> Quite to the
>> > contrary, I know totally and completely that I will
>> NEVER have a real clue
>> > about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast
>> moving, opaque...
>> > BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility)
>> is to invite them
>> > to do what only they know how to do ? and then, as
>> quickly as possible, get
>> > out of the way. Usually to take a napJ****
>> > ** **
>> > And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a
>> friend. I respect her
>> > greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what
>> she did, she didn?t
>> > use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be
>> terrified ... it
>> > could get out of control.? The big secret, of course,
>> was that she (as we
>> > all are) was always out of control ? so there was
>> nothing to lose.****
>> > ****
>> > Harrison****
>> > ** **
>> > ** **
>> > ** **
>> > Harrison Owen****
>> > 7808 River Falls Dr.****
>> > Potomac, MD 20854****
>> > USA****
>> > ** **
>> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
>> > Camden, Maine 04843****
>> > ** **
>> > Phone 301-365-2093****
>> > (summer) 207-763-3261****
>> > ** **
>> > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/> ****
>> > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
>> <http://www.ho-image.com%20/> (Personal Website)****
>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>> archives of
>> > OSLIST Go to:
>> >
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
>> > ** **
>> > *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> [mailto:
>> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>> >
>> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>> > ** **
>> > Hi Harrison,****
>> > ** **
>> > Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about
>> how to proceed and
>> > be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.****
>> > I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the
>> authenticity of how
>> > you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do
>> it.****
>> > Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or
>> competence in all
>> > situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may
>> live/work in
>> > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose
>> > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement. ****
>> > Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my
>> Kathie Dannemillerlessons about Design Teams has helped me
>> to usually make the process
>> > consciously the participants' process.****
>> > ** **
>> > Scott****
>> > ** **
>> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>>
>> > wrote:****
>> > Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have
>> never seen any
>> > reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In
>> every situation
>> > with large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108
>> J) ? the people
>> > do it all by themselves, just like usual. If anything
>> the action is faster,
>> > and more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it
>> really rolls. You
>> > just got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I
>> would make sure the
>> > opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator)
>> only ? and on with
>> > the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be
>> in place (real
>> > business issue, complexity, diversity, passion,
>> conflict, urgency) ? and
>> > from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit
>> in a circle, create
>> > bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work.
>> Nothing else needed.**
>> > **
>> > ****
>> > Harrison****
>> > ****
>> > Harrison Owen****
>> > 7808 River Falls Dr.****
>> > Potomac, MD 20854****
>> > USA****
>> > ****
>> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
>> > Camden, Maine 04843****
>> > ****
>> > Phone 301-365-2093****
>> > (summer) 207-763-3261****
>> > ****
>> > http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/ ****
>> > http://www.ho-image.com%20/ (Personal Website)****
>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>> archives of
>> > OSLIST Go to:
>> >
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
>> > ****
>> > *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> [mailto:
>> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
>> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>> > ****
>> > Hi Sharon Joy,****
>> > ****
>> > Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our
>> experience and
>> > imagination.****
>> > Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought.
>> For me the joy of
>> > a laid back ****
>> > OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames,
>> larger numbers and
>> > logistics. I ****
>> > want people to see what they can get done when they are
>> focused and led
>> > through ****
>> > well planned OS tasks. ****
>> > I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group
>> wants to walk away
>> > with. I try to ****
>> > get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond
>> of design teams
>> > preceding ****
>> > any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to
>> 10 vertically
>> > positioned ****
>> > influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get
>> together and
>> > confirm sought ****
>> > desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a
>> list of
>> > important topics****
>> > for this conversation and to rework the list into a
>> vital few examples.
>> > I would also ****
>> > encourage this group to recognize the significance of
>> their role and to
>> > serve as ****
>> > spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.****
>> > However the session is opened, I would include a design
>> team member or
>> > two to share their ****
>> > hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly
>> share the list of
>> > topics as examples ****
>> > for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them
>> per the "high
>> > performance ****
>> > system"sought.****
>> > ****
>> > This is a great opportunity for your government to work
>> together.****
>> > I also look forward to learning about your experience
>> and next steps.****
>> > ****
>> > Scott Gassman****
>> > ****
>> > ****
>> > ****
>> > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
>> > sharon at seameo-innotech.org
>> <mailto:sharon at seameo-innotech.org>> wrote:****
>> > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government
>> people to go
>> > through an exploratory discussion on high performance
>> system, all under 4
>> > hours.
>> >
>> > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu.
>> The focus is on the
>> > Philippine government service, its performance
>> management system and how it
>> > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>> >
>> > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with
>> some incredible
>> > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to
>> post on OSList.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of
>> thousand in 4 hours
>> > time?
>> >
>> > Maraming Salamat.
>> >
>> > ========================================
>> > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
>> > SEAMEO INNOTECH
>> > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
>> > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
>> > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
>> > Fax (632) 928-7692
>> >
>> >
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>> > http://www.ideajuices.com/
>> >
>> > America Speaks on Scott:
>> >
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