[OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
Michael M Pannwitz
mmpannwitz at gmail.com
Sat Jul 13 02:53:32 PDT 2013
... attache the design in 2003
mmp
On 13.07.2013 00:47, Chris Corrigan wrote:
> Michael, would you really go with three 45 minutes sessions for 1000
> people? It takes something like that amount of time just for people to
> find the next session and get settled. By the time the convener starts
> their topic, it's going to be time to move again...
>
> The biggest challenge with large groups is the amount of time it takes
> to move and the amount of space you need to allow people to peruse the
> bullentin board and make choices. It is very hard for 1000 people to
> read what has been written and posted on handwritten sheets of paper.
> Think about holding up a piece of paper with a topic written on it in
> front of 1000 people. How long do you think it will take for them all
> to get a chance to read it? the flip side, as Michael points out is
> that with 1000 people you could well have 200-300 sessions proposed.
> that means you need up to 150 breakout spaces available, which is a
> big ask for any facility. And with even 200 topics proposed, and each
> convener taking 30 seconds to pitch their session, you have 100 minutes
> of presentation, with A LOT of noise in the room before you even get to
> the part where 1000 people go to the wall and look at their topics...so
> all of that is very real and needs very careful planning and
> consideration. And you need adequate time and space.
>
> I think doing this in a half day is ambitious enough...with three
> sessions of 45 minutes I would highly doubt whether people will a) have
> satisfying conversations and b) get a feeling for the power of
> self-organization. With enough time and space, I believe that any group
> of any size can experience Open Space Technology and really get it. But
> you need to scale it appropriately in order for it to be a rich enough
> experience and a useful tool.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 3:34 PM, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring
> <adriana at diazberrio.com <mailto:adriana at diazberrio.com>> wrote:
>
> Sharon: I think that this OS will be a very interesting experiment
> and that what will be very good is that people will have some
> exposure to this approach and they will like it so they can think
> about using it in other places in other moments to.
> Of course this will be very big and short for the amount of people
> but long enought to make them feel the wisdom and the power of self
> organising systems in action!
> I hope you have several people helping you setting the place the day
> before!
>
> Adriana
>
> 2013/7/12 lucia pavia Ticzon <living.systems.org.luch at gmail.com
> <mailto:living.systems.org.luch at gmail.com>>
>
> ONward, sis
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Sharon Joy Chao
> <sharon at seameo-innotech.org <mailto:sharon at seameo-innotech.org>>
> wrote:
>
> Its overwhelming reading through all the exchanges and good
> intentions my request has generated. I read each mail and
> can't help but smile at the treasure trove of ideas.
>
> First off, the 1,000 participants in 4 hours, is definitely
> pushing through in Cebu. As its a big event, theres a team
> that's helping me and doing much of the pre work on the
> ground. The venue is a huge hotel ballroom enough to
> accommodate over 2,000 so space is not much of a worry. I
> was shown pictures, the ballroom is squarish with high
> ceiling. Now here's the catch, initially we thought of
> deploying balloons much like how Michael has done in Germany
> some years back. But the hotel won't allow balloons inside
> the hall, and also do not permit sticking anything on the
> wall. So, we are left with following options: either to use
> the laundry line complete with laundry clips or placards,
> which can be raised for people to see.
>
> I like the suggestion of Chris, as its something I can use
> to close the circle. Some tweaking so it reads like
> this..."what did we learn in this open space gathering and
> what do we need to do to support the momentum?" Of course I
> still need to work with Civil Service people to make sense
> of the results and also to post the same question to them.
>
> Btw, this OST event happens within a two-day symposium on
> Performance Management System. And Harrison is right, there
> are tons of speakers on day 1, day 2 starts with open space
> in the morning. The big question paused to them is
> this: What bold steps can we take to create a truly
> essential, energizing and responsive performance management
> system? Additional speakers take over in the afternoon
> mainly for government pronouncements.
>
> The participants are government HR, OD and planning people,
> local government and some private sector representatives.
> There might not be that much exposure for deep engagement,
> but I'd still take this assignment anytime.
>
> To touch base with as many government agencies and be able
> to open the discussion on performance management; to have
> this engagement even for just four hours and get government
> to seriously consider the kind of system that gives life to
> the service...these are enough incentives for me to accept
> the assignment.
>
> From the practice of open space I learn to adopt a
> beginner's mind, one that's open to possibility, a don't
> know mind, this coupled with the practice of quieting the
> mind, prepares me to gracefully enter the circle. I pray
> for humility to open the circle, and strength to step aside
> once the circle is open. And yes, 15 min is enough time to
> set the space.
>
> The program, thanks to your suggestions is more
> streamlined...one hour opening/issue generation; two one-
> hour sessions and another hour for closing the circle.
>
> I truly can't thank everyone enough. Sending my love to
> Harrison, Lisa and Franklin, and all those who are kind
> enough to play through the configuration of 1,000 under 4
> hours. I'll get back to you and share how it goes. That
> would be something to look forward to :)
>
> Metta,
> Sharon Joy
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 12, 2013, at 4:06 AM,
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>> 1. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Scott Gassman)
>> 2. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Harrison Owen)
>> 3. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Chris Corrigan)
>> 4. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Scott Gassman)
>> 5. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (K?ri Gunnarsson)
>> 6. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Michael M Pannwitz)
>> 7. open space in jeeps (K?ri Gunnarsson)
>> 8. Re: open space in jeeps (gerardo de luzenberger)
>> 9. Re: open space in jeeps (K?ri Gunnarsson)
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>> 10. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Harrison Owen)
>> 11. Re: open space in jeeps (Lise Damkj?r)
>> 12. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>> (chunili2000 at yahoo.com <mailto:chunili2000 at yahoo.com>)
>> 13. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>> (Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:00:37 -0400
>> From: Scott Gassman <scott.gassman at gmail.com
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>> Hi Harrison,
>>
>> Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how
>> to proceed and be
>> hopefully clearer about her design decisions.
>> I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the
>> authenticity of how
>> you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.
>> Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence
>> in all situations
>> to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
>> and/or the
>> process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats,
>> whose shadow can
>> slow down the speed of large group movement.
>> Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my
>> Kathie Dannemiller
>> lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make
>> the process
>> consciously the participants' process.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>> > Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have
>> never seen any
>> > reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In
>> every situation with
>> > large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ?
>> the people do it
>> > all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the
>> action is faster, and
>> > more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it
>> really rolls. You just
>> > got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would
>> make sure the
>> > opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator)
>> only ? and on with
>> > the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be
>> in place (real
>> > business issue, complexity, diversity, passion,
>> conflict, urgency) ? and
>> > from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit
>> in a circle, create
>> > bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work.
>> Nothing else needed.**
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>> > Hi Sharon Joy,****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our
>> experience and
>> > imagination.****
>> >
>> > Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought.
>> For me the joy of a
>> > laid back ****
>> >
>> > OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger
>> numbers and
>> > logistics. I ****
>> >
>> > want people to see what they can get done when they are
>> focused and led
>> > through ****
>> >
>> > well planned OS tasks. ****
>> >
>> > I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants
>> to walk away
>> > with. I try to ****
>> >
>> > get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond
>> of design teams
>> > preceding ****
>> >
>> > any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to
>> 10 vertically
>> > positioned ****
>> >
>> > influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get
>> together and confirm
>> > sought ****
>> >
>> > desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a
>> list of important
>> > topics****
>> >
>> > for this conversation and to rework the list into a
>> vital few examples. I
>> > would also ****
>> >
>> > encourage this group to recognize the significance of
>> their role and to
>> > serve as ****
>> >
>> > spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.****
>> >
>> > However the session is opened, I would include a design
>> team member or two
>> > to share their ****
>> >
>> > hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly
>> share the list of
>> > topics as examples ****
>> >
>> > for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them
>> per the "high
>> > performance ****
>> >
>> > system"sought.****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > This is a great opportunity for your government to work
>> together.****
>> >
>> > I also look forward to learning about your experience
>> and next steps.****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Scott Gassman****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
>> > sharon at seameo-innotech.org
>> <mailto:sharon at seameo-innotech.org>> wrote:****
>> >
>> > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government
>> people to go
>> > through an exploratory discussion on high performance
>> system, all under 4
>> > hours.
>> >
>> > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu.
>> The focus is on the
>> > Philippine government service, its performance
>> management system and how it
>> > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>> >
>> > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with
>> some incredible
>> > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to
>> post on OSList.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of
>> thousand in 4 hours
>> > time?
>> >
>> > Maraming Salamat.
>> >
>> > ========================================
>> > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
>> > SEAMEO INNOTECH
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>> From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net
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>> To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
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>> Scott said - "Not all of us have your (that's me - HO)
>> confidence, clarity
>> or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an
>> organization we
>> may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially
>> filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large
>> group movement."
>>
>>
>>
>> Nice words, Scott - but once again I have a different
>> take. Truth is I have
>> ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my
>> "competence in all
>> situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we
>> may live/work in
>> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose
>> shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement."
>> Quite to the
>> contrary, I know totally and completely that I will NEVER
>> have a real clue
>> about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast
>> moving, opaque...
>> BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is
>> to invite them to
>> do what only they know how to do - and then, as quickly as
>> possible, get out
>> of the way. Usually to take a napJ
>>
>>
>>
>> And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend.
>> I respect her
>> greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what
>> she did, she didn't
>> use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was - "I'd be
>> terrified ... it
>> could get out of control." The big secret, of course, was
>> that she (as we
>> all are) was always out of control - so there was nothing
>> to lose.
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison Owen
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>
>> USA
>>
>>
>>
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>>
>> Camden, Maine 04843
>>
>>
>>
>> Phone 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>
>>
>> (summer) 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>
>>
>>
>>
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>> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf
>> Of Scott Gassman
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Harrison,
>>
>>
>>
>> Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how
>> to proceed and be
>> hopefully clearer about her design decisions.
>>
>> I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the
>> authenticity of how you
>> have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.
>>
>> Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence
>> in all situations
>> to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
>> and/or the
>> process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats,
>> whose shadow can slow
>> down the speed of large group movement.
>>
>> Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my
>> Kathie Dannemiller
>> lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make
>> the process
>> consciously the participants' process.
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Scott - I guess I really have a different take. I have
>> never seen any reason
>> to "plant" topics, or emplace "spark plugs." In every
>> situation with large
>> groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) - the
>> people do it all by
>> themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is
>> faster, and more
>> furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really
>> rolls. You just got to
>> get out of the way quickly - which is why I would make
>> sure the opening was
>> fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only - and on
>> with the show! Of
>> course the "necessary conditions" must be in place (real
>> business issue,
>> complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) - and
>> from there on out
>> the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create
>> bulletin board,
>> open market place - and go to work. Nothing else needed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison Owen
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>
>> USA
>>
>>
>>
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>>
>> Camden, Maine 04843
>>
>>
>>
>> Phone 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>
>>
>> (summer) 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>
>>
>>
>>
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>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf
>> Of Scott Gassman
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Sharon Joy,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our
>> experience and
>> imagination.
>>
>> Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For
>> me the joy of a
>> laid back
>>
>> OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger
>> numbers and
>> logistics. I
>>
>> want people to see what they can get done when they are
>> focused and led
>> through
>>
>> well planned OS tasks.
>>
>> I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants
>> to walk away with.
>> I try to
>>
>> get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of
>> design teams
>> preceding
>>
>> any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10
>> vertically
>> positioned
>>
>> influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get
>> together and confirm
>> sought
>>
>> desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a
>> list of important
>> topics
>>
>> for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital
>> few examples. I
>> would also
>>
>> encourage this group to recognize the significance of
>> their role and to
>> serve as
>>
>> spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.
>>
>> However the session is opened, I would include a design
>> team member or two
>> to share their
>>
>> hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly
>> share the list of
>> topics as examples
>>
>> for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them
>> per the "high
>> performance
>>
>> system"sought.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a great opportunity for your government to work
>> together.
>>
>> I also look forward to learning about your experience and
>> next steps.
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott Gassman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao
>> <sharon at seameo-innotech.org
>> <mailto:sharon at seameo-innotech.org>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government
>> people to go through
>> an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all
>> under 4 hours.
>>
>> This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The
>> focus is on the
>> Philippine government service, its performance management
>> system and how it
>> can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>>
>> Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some
>> incredible
>> suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to
>> post on OSList.
>>
>> Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of
>> thousand in 4 hours time?
>>
>>
>> Maraming Salamat.
>>
>> ========================================
>> Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
>> SEAMEO INNOTECH
>> Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
>> Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
>> Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
>> Fax (632) 928-7692
>>
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>> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:47:45 -0700
>> From: Chris Corrigan <chris at chriscorrigan.com
>> <mailto:chris at chriscorrigan.com>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>> Message-ID:
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>> Agreeing with Harrison here.
>>
>> Lisa has given some great advice. If you were going to
>> make it possible to
>> host 1000 people in Open Space for 4 hours, Lisa's
>> detailed list gives you
>> your best shot of doing that and being successful.
>>
>> Don't be fooled though...this is a huge ask to do this
>> well. The largest
>> group I ever hosted was about 600 people and honestly, the
>> thought of doing
>> that in a half day is truly overwhelming. You need a
>> large team with you
>> to make sure the logistics flow and make sure that people
>> can find where
>> they need to go in a timely way. But 1000 people moving
>> about in a space
>> is a really big ask, and that takes WAAAAY more time than
>> you think it
>> will. And God forbid someone calls a session and 75 people
>> show up because
>> it is rich and juicy - just being able to be heard and get
>> a few comments
>> in will be challenging.
>>
>> As for the design teams idea, that one is really simple.
>> With a crowd of
>> 1000 people all proposing and hosting conversations I
>> think having a few
>> people predetermine some trigger topics will give a false
>> sense of comfort
>> that they are actually able to be influential. The fact
>> is that 1000
>> people are ALREADY talking and this Open Space will simply
>> make that all
>> visible. To host this in Open Space you simply HAVE to
>> have confidence in
>> your ability to stand in the room and host. If you can't
>> do that, it's
>> going to be hard for you. You will not be able to control
>> the shadow of
>> the group nor the possibility of emergence. Once the
>> group is working you
>> will barely be able to reconvene them, let alone impact
>> the emotional field
>> of the event. So you and the core team need to let go of
>> outcomes and get
>> really curious about what might emerge from this afternoon
>> of work.
>>
>> Instead of design teams I would counsel that you have
>> several dozen
>> listeners somehow connected to the bigger project who can
>> discern what is
>> going on. After the event invite them and the conveners
>> of every
>> conversation to engage in a little meaning making
>> together. That could
>> still be a meeting of more than 100 people, but you could
>> do it in Open
>> Space and ask the question: "So what did we learn from our
>> 1000 people open
>> space and what do we need to do to support momentum?"
>>
>> And as for outcomes, there is very little this group
>> collectively will be
>> able to accomplish in four hours other than people shaving
>> the conversation
>> they came to have (not the ones the sponsors want them to
>> have) with a few
>> people who managed to find them. You might use a tool like
>> http://smsharvest.com as a way of catching insights on the
>> fly from
>> everywhere. But it will be really hard to get any
>> collective clarity.
>>
>> This is a tough one Sharon Joy. I wish you a lot of luck
>> and good clarity
>> and hope you will share the story with us of whatever
>> happens. There will
>> be lots of learning in it for all of us.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>> > Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO)
>> confidence, clarity
>> > or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in
>> an organization we
>> > may live/work in and/or the process in a room
>> potentially filled with
>> > bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of
>> large group movement.?
>> > ****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different
>> take. Truth is I
>> > have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my
>> ?competence in all
>> > situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we
>> may live/work in
>> > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose
>> > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.?
>> Quite to the
>> > contrary, I know totally and completely that I will
>> NEVER have a real clue
>> > about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast
>> moving, opaque...
>> > BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility)
>> is to invite them
>> > to do what only they know how to do ? and then, as
>> quickly as possible, get
>> > out of the way. Usually to take a napJ****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a
>> friend. I respect her
>> > greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what
>> she did, she didn?t
>> > use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be
>> terrified ... it
>> > could get out of control.? The big secret, of course,
>> was that she (as we
>> > all are) was always out of control ? so there was
>> nothing to lose.****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Harrison****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Harrison Owen****
>> >
>> > 7808 River Falls Dr.****
>> >
>> > Potomac, MD 20854****
>> >
>> > USA****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
>> >
>> > Camden, Maine 04843****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Phone 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>****
>> >
>> > (summer) 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> ****
>> >
>> > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
>> <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)****
>> >
>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>> archives of
>> > OSLIST Go to:
>> >
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> [mailto:
>> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>> >
>> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Hi Harrison,****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about
>> how to proceed and
>> > be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.****
>> >
>> > I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the
>> authenticity of how
>> > you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do
>> it.****
>> >
>> > Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or
>> competence in all
>> > situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may
>> live/work in
>> > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose
>> > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement. ****
>> >
>> > Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my
>> Kathie Dannemiller
>> > lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make
>> the process
>> > consciously the participants' process.****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Scott****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have
>> never seen any
>> > reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In
>> every situation with
>> > large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ?
>> the people do it
>> > all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the
>> action is faster, and
>> > more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it
>> really rolls. You just
>> > got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would
>> make sure the
>> > opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator)
>> only ? and on with
>> > the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be
>> in place (real
>> > business issue, complexity, diversity, passion,
>> conflict, urgency) ? and
>> > from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit
>> in a circle, create
>> > bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work.
>> Nothing else needed.**
>> > **
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Harrison****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Harrison Owen****
>> >
>> > 7808 River Falls Dr.****
>> >
>> > Potomac, MD 20854****
>> >
>> > USA****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
>> >
>> > Camden, Maine 04843****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Phone 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>****
>> >
>> > (summer) 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> ****
>> >
>> > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
>> <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)****
>> >
>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>> archives of
>> > OSLIST Go to:
>> >
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> [mailto:
>> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
>> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Hi Sharon Joy,****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our
>> experience and
>> > imagination.****
>> >
>> > Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought.
>> For me the joy of a
>> > laid back ****
>> >
>> > OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger
>> numbers and
>> > logistics. I ****
>> >
>> > want people to see what they can get done when they are
>> focused and led
>> > through ****
>> >
>> > well planned OS tasks. ****
>> >
>> > I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants
>> to walk away
>> > with. I try to ****
>> >
>> > get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond
>> of design teams
>> > preceding ****
>> >
>> > any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to
>> 10 vertically
>> > positioned ****
>> >
>> > influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get
>> together and confirm
>> > sought ****
>> >
>> > desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a
>> list of important
>> > topics****
>> >
>> > for this conversation and to rework the list into a
>> vital few examples. I
>> > would also ****
>> >
>> > encourage this group to recognize the significance of
>> their role and to
>> > serve as ****
>> >
>> > spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.****
>> >
>> > However the session is opened, I would include a design
>> team member or two
>> > to share their ****
>> >
>> > hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly
>> share the list of
>> > topics as examples ****
>> >
>> > for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them
>> per the "high
>> > performance ****
>> >
>> > system"sought.****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > This is a great opportunity for your government to work
>> together.****
>> >
>> > I also look forward to learning about your experience
>> and next steps.****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Scott Gassman****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
>> > sharon at seameo-innotech.org
>> <mailto:sharon at seameo-innotech.org>> wrote:****
>> >
>> > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government
>> people to go
>> > through an exploratory discussion on high performance
>> system, all under 4
>> > hours.
>> >
>> > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu.
>> The focus is on the
>> > Philippine government service, its performance
>> management system and how it
>> > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>> >
>> > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with
>> some incredible
>> > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to
>> post on OSList.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of
>> thousand in 4 hours
>> > time?
>> >
>> > Maraming Salamat.
>> >
>> > ========================================
>> > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
>> > SEAMEO INNOTECH
>> > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
>> > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
>> > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
>> > Fax (632) 928-7692
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
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>> > IdeaJuice
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>> >
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>> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 20:47:52 -0400
>> From: Scott Gassman <scott.gassman at gmail.com
>> <mailto:scott.gassman at gmail.com>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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>> Harrison,
>>
>> I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think
>> about the "ZERO
>> confidence," "about what is going on."
>> That's good material for me to think about as I approach
>> future group
>> work.
>> I am touched by your Kathie story. Kathie's respect for
>> you came out in a
>> conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and so
>> she really
>> steered me towards learning with you and Lisa up in Maine.
>> I do remember
>> you leaving to take a nap and me scratching my head - how
>> - in the middle,
>> can you let go? I guess until now I dance between the
>> freedom of Open Space
>> and joint design team sharing that anchors me to do as
>> much as I can to
>> support the group and deliver a quick start. I want the
>> organizational
>> team to discover and I also want to have them have those
>> first few steps of
>> how to get going on their own.
>> I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also
>> "out of control,"
>> aiming to get them to keep pedaling and stay up.
>>
>> Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>> > Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO)
>> confidence, clarity
>> > or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in
>> an organization we
>> > may live/work in and/or the process in a room
>> potentially filled with
>> > bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of
>> large group movement.?
>> > ****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different
>> take. Truth is I
>> > have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my
>> ?competence in all
>> > situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we
>> may live/work in
>> > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose
>> > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.?
>> Quite to the
>> > contrary, I know totally and completely that I will
>> NEVER have a real clue
>> > about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast
>> moving, opaque...
>> > BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility)
>> is to invite them
>> > to do what only they know how to do ? and then, as
>> quickly as possible, get
>> > out of the way. Usually to take a napJ****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a
>> friend. I respect her
>> > greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what
>> she did, she didn?t
>> > use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be
>> terrified ... it
>> > could get out of control.? The big secret, of course,
>> was that she (as we
>> > all are) was always out of control ? so there was
>> nothing to lose.****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Harrison****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Harrison Owen****
>> >
>> > 7808 River Falls Dr.****
>> >
>> > Potomac, MD 20854****
>> >
>> > USA****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
>> >
>> > Camden, Maine 04843****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Phone 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>****
>> >
>> > (summer) 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> ****
>> >
>> > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
>> <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)****
>> >
>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>> archives of
>> > OSLIST Go to:
>> >
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> [mailto:
>> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>> >
>> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Hi Harrison,****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about
>> how to proceed and
>> > be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.****
>> >
>> > I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the
>> authenticity of how
>> > you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do
>> it.****
>> >
>> > Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or
>> competence in all
>> > situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may
>> live/work in
>> > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose
>> > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement. ****
>> >
>> > Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my
>> Kathie Dannemiller
>> > lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make
>> the process
>> > consciously the participants' process.****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > Scott****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have
>> never seen any
>> > reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In
>> every situation with
>> > large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ?
>> the people do it
>> > all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the
>> action is faster, and
>> > more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it
>> really rolls. You just
>> > got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would
>> make sure the
>> > opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator)
>> only ? and on with
>> > the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be
>> in place (real
>> > business issue, complexity, diversity, passion,
>> conflict, urgency) ? and
>> > from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit
>> in a circle, create
>> > bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work.
>> Nothing else needed.**
>> > **
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Harrison****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Harrison Owen****
>> >
>> > 7808 River Falls Dr.****
>> >
>> > Potomac, MD 20854****
>> >
>> > USA****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
>> >
>> > Camden, Maine 04843****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Phone 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>****
>> >
>> > (summer) 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> ****
>> >
>> > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
>> <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)****
>> >
>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>> archives of
>> > OSLIST Go to:
>> >
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> [mailto:
>> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
>> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Hi Sharon Joy,****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our
>> experience and
>> > imagination.****
>> >
>> > Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought.
>> For me the joy of a
>> > laid back ****
>> >
>> > OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger
>> numbers and
>> > logistics. I ****
>> >
>> > want people to see what they can get done when they are
>> focused and led
>> > through ****
>> >
>> > well planned OS tasks. ****
>> >
>> > I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants
>> to walk away
>> > with. I try to ****
>> >
>> > get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond
>> of design teams
>> > preceding ****
>> >
>> > any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to
>> 10 vertically
>> > positioned ****
>> >
>> > influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get
>> together and confirm
>> > sought ****
>> >
>> > desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a
>> list of important
>> > topics****
>> >
>> > for this conversation and to rework the list into a
>> vital few examples. I
>> > would also ****
>> >
>> > encourage this group to recognize the significance of
>> their role and to
>> > serve as ****
>> >
>> > spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.****
>> >
>> > However the session is opened, I would include a design
>> team member or two
>> > to share their ****
>> >
>> > hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly
>> share the list of
>> > topics as examples ****
>> >
>> > for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them
>> per the "high
>> > performance ****
>> >
>> > system"sought.****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > This is a great opportunity for your government to work
>> together.****
>> >
>> > I also look forward to learning about your experience
>> and next steps.****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > Scott Gassman****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
>> > sharon at seameo-innotech.org
>> <mailto:sharon at seameo-innotech.org>> wrote:****
>> >
>> > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government
>> people to go
>> > through an exploratory discussion on high performance
>> system, all under 4
>> > hours.
>> >
>> > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu.
>> The focus is on the
>> > Philippine government service, its performance
>> management system and how it
>> > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>> >
>> > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with
>> some incredible
>> > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to
>> post on OSList.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of
>> thousand in 4 hours
>> > time?
>> >
>> > Maraming Salamat.
>> >
>> > ========================================
>> > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
>> > SEAMEO INNOTECH
>> > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
>> > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
>> > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
>> > Fax (632) 928-7692
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > OSList mailing list
>> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> > To unsubscribe send an email to
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>> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > --
>> > Scott Gassman
>> > IdeaJuice
>> > (917) 951 - 0258 <tel:%28917%29%20951%20-%200258>
>> > scott.gassman at gmail.com <mailto:scott.gassman at gmail.com>
>> > www.ideajuices.com <http://www.ideajuices.com>
>> >
>> > America Speaks on Scott:
>> >
>> http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > --
>> > Scott Gassman
>> > IdeaJuice
>> > (917) 951 - 0258 <tel:%28917%29%20951%20-%200258>
>> > scott.gassman at gmail.com <mailto:scott.gassman at gmail.com>
>> > www.ideajuices.com <http://www.ideajuices.com>
>> >
>> > America Speaks on Scott:
>> >
>> http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/
>> >
>> >
>> > ****
>> >
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>> www.ideajuices.com <http://www.ideajuices.com>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 05:55:23 +0000
>> From: K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is
>> <mailto:kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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>> A question here
>>
>> I have been a bit confused about the selection process for
>> open space.
>> In my last possibly large gathering, there I was opening
>> up the idea
>> to my client that we should have a self-selection of
>> participants in
>> the open space by use of open invitation letters to the
>> possible
>> participants. My client did not like that.
>>
>> How have these 1000 people been selected to take part in
>> the open
>> space and dose that mater in any way?
>>
>> with a breeze from Iceland
>> K?ri
>>
>> On 10 July 2013 19:56, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net
>> <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>> > Sharon Joy -- What a joy (excuse the pun) to see you
>> here! You do have a
>> > hand full, but it will be fun. With large groups, my
>> biggest concern is
>> > always to have enough space. And 1000 people do need
>> some major room to
>> > maneuver, particularly when the time is short. Two
>> spaces are critical: in
>> > the center of the circle, and at the wall. With that
>> many people I would
>> > look for a center open space of 100 feet across. It is
>> more than likely that
>> > you will have 100-150 people all rushing to the center,
>> and that will become
>> > quite confusing if they don?t have any room. And at the
>> wall ? remember that
>> > there will be a time when you have 1000 people all
>> trying to read what is up
>> > there (issues) and make their session selections. If the
>> wall is too short,
>> > the people will bunch up, and when people are standing
>> 5-6 deep, it will get
>> > frustrating and things will move slowly. My rule of
>> thumb is 6 inches of
>> > wall per participant. That way people will never be more
>> than 2-3 deep. You
>> > can get away with less wall, but, but you do pay a
>> price. In terms of time
>> > periods I would suggest 1 ? hours for the opening, 2 --
>> 1 hour Sessions, and
>> > a half hour for the close, maybe even less. It is all
>> ?doable? but I do have
>> > to ask: Why just 4 hours?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I suspicion the answer is something like ? there will be
>> speeches and
>> > presentations in the morning, which presumably will
>> provide the people with
>> > the necessary inspiration and information to do the job.
>> However, every time
>> > I have been in a situation like that, the information
>> provided was never
>> > enough, and the inspiration imparted simply didn?t do
>> the job. More to the
>> > point, there is an implicit statement made which I find
>> most troubling. It
>> > would seem that the wisdom of the several ?presenters?
>> somehow was equal to
>> > and/or took precedence over the collective wisdom and
>> experience of 1000
>> > people. Of course this could be true, but if it is, I
>> seriously doubt that
>> > Opening Space will do all that much good. Probably
>> better to just fire
>> > (terminate) the lot. On the other hand, if that 1000
>> person collective
>> > wisdom is of the sort and depth I suspect it to be ? the
>> allocation of time
>> > is, if nothing else, short sighted and disrespectful. It
>> might seem that the
>> > ?idiots and children? will be allowed a little play time
>> after the experts
>> > and adults have set the stage. Am I suggesting that you
>> and your colleagues
>> > thought this way? Definitely not. But that is a possible
>> conclusion based on
>> > the facts on the ground. And I have definitely
>> experienced situations where
>> > the ?thought? not only occurred, but was totally
>> conscious. Worst case was a
>> > CEO of a large American corporation who was heard to
>> say, ?Never turn the
>> > asylum over to the inmates.? The Asylum, of course was
>> the company, and the
>> > ?inmates? were all the employees. Is it any wonder that
>> creativity and
>> > innovation at that company were virtually non-existent,
>> and that employee
>> > morale was dismal? Thankfully the company is now out of
>> business.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Doubtless I have gone way too far here, and knowing you
>> Sharon Joy, I know
>> > that such thoughts would never enter your mind. That
>> said, I find that
>> > sometimes what we do speaks so much louder than what we
>> think or say. And
>> > even worse when our actions are the direct antithesis of
>> our real
>> > intentions.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Harrison
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Harrison Owen
>> >
>> > 7808 River Falls Dr.
>> >
>> > Potomac, MD 20854
>> >
>> > USA
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>> >
>> > Camden, Maine 04843
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Phone 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>
>> >
>> > (summer) 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> >
>> > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com> (Personal
>> Website)
>> >
>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>> archives of OSLIST
>> > Go
>> to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> > [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On
>> Behalf Of Sharon Joy Chao
>> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 8:39 PM
>> > To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> > Subject: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government
>> people to go through
>> > an exploratory discussion on high performance system,
>> all under 4 hours.
>> >
>> > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu.
>> The focus is on the
>> > Philippine government service, its performance
>> management system and how it
>> > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>> >
>> > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with
>> some incredible
>> > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to
>> post on OSList.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of
>> thousand in 4 hours time?
>> >
>> > Maraming Salamat.
>> >
>> > ========================================
>> > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
>> > SEAMEO INNOTECH
>> > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
>> > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
>> > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
>> > Fax (632) 928-7692
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > OSList mailing list
>> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> > To unsubscribe send an email to
>> OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
>> >
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> K?ri Gunnarsson
>> kari at openspace.is <mailto:kari at openspace.is>
>> gsm: +354 8645189 <tel:%2B354%208645189>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:00:29 +0200
>> From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com
>> <mailto:mmpannwitz at gmail.com>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>> Message-ID: <51DE580D.6040408 at gmail.com
>> <mailto:51DE580D.6040408 at gmail.com>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>>
>> Dear Kari,
>> if an invitation is sent to all that the Planning Group
>> (sponsor
>> included) want to be at the event under the
>> approach/question "who
>> should be at the event so that the stuff we expect from
>> the event under
>> the Heading we came up with for the event will happen?"
>> those receiving
>> the invitation respond to the invitation the way one would
>> usually
>> respond: accept or decline (selfselection).
>> Huge advantage of this selfselection is that the people
>> picking up their
>> spirit and body to come are the right people.
>> People that come because they ought to, feel they have to,
>> are forced to
>> etc. are also selfselecting themselves.
>> And all that show up hear my words about "The Law" and my
>> invitation to
>> "obey" it (at least twice in the event)... listening to
>> their feedback I
>> find that most folks find it liberating when they follow
>> The Law, and
>> stay and participate (passionately).
>> Now, this is not really an answer to your question on the
>> selection of
>> the 1000 people.
>> The event that HO refers to occasionally (the event with 2108
>> participants) took place at the end of a five day
>> conference with 3500
>> folks in attendance. In the invitation to the conference
>> people wanting
>> to attend the OST part had to sign up for it seperately
>> (this determined
>> how many cushions we bought and how much food was supplied
>> and how many
>> toilets had to be set up etc.) and pay an additonal fee.
>> In this way, following the invitation meant putting down
>> some extra
>> money, filling out a form with their contact data for the
>> documentation
>> all in addition to the decision that they wanted to be
>> part of it. These
>> kinds of commitments are perhaps trivial but many sponsors
>> are trying to
>> avoid to attach those commitments to the invitation to
>> make it "easier"
>> for people to come... also a form of control.
>>
>> Like the breeze from Iceland which actually arrived during
>> the night and
>> brought a refreshingly cool morning
>> Greetings from Berlin
>> mmp
>>
>> On 11.07.2013 07:55, K?ri Gunnarsson wrote:
>> > A question here
>> >
>> > I have been a bit confused about the selection process
>> for open space.
>> > In my last possibly large gathering, there I was opening
>> up the idea
>> > to my client that we should have a self-selection of
>> participants in
>> > the open space by use of open invitation letters to the
>> possible
>> > participants. My client did not like that.
>> >
>> > How have these 1000 people been selected to take part in
>> the open
>> > space and dose that mater in any way?
>> >
>> > with a breeze from Iceland
>> > K?ri
>> >
>> > On 10 July 2013 19:56, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net
>> <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>> >> Sharon Joy -- What a joy (excuse the pun) to see you
>> here! You do have a
>> >> hand full, but it will be fun. With large groups, my
>> biggest concern is
>> >> always to have enough space. And 1000 people do need
>> some major room to
>> >> maneuver, particularly when the time is short. Two
>> spaces are critical: in
>> >> the center of the circle, and at the wall. With that
>> many people I would
>> >> look for a center open space of 100 feet across. It is
>> more than likely that
>> >> you will have 100-150 people all rushing to the center,
>> and that will become
>> >> quite confusing if they don?t have any room. And at the
>> wall ? remember that
>> >> there will be a time when you have 1000 people all
>> trying to read what is up
>> >> there (issues) and make their session selections. If
>> the wall is too short,
>> >> the people will bunch up, and when people are standing
>> 5-6 deep, it will get
>> >> frustrating and things will move slowly. My rule of
>> thumb is 6 inches of
>> >> wall per participant. That way people will never be
>> more than 2-3 deep. You
>> >> can get away with less wall, but, but you do pay a
>> price. In terms of time
>> >> periods I would suggest 1 ? hours for the opening, 2 --
>> 1 hour Sessions, and
>> >> a half hour for the close, maybe even less. It is all
>> ?doable? but I do have
>> >> to ask: Why just 4 hours?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I suspicion the answer is something like ? there will
>> be speeches and
>> >> presentations in the morning, which presumably will
>> provide the people with
>> >> the necessary inspiration and information to do the
>> job. However, every time
>> >> I have been in a situation like that, the information
>> provided was never
>> >> enough, and the inspiration imparted simply didn?t do
>> the job. More to the
>> >> point, there is an implicit statement made which I find
>> most troubling. It
>> >> would seem that the wisdom of the several ?presenters?
>> somehow was equal to
>> >> and/or took precedence over the collective wisdom and
>> experience of 1000
>> >> people. Of course this could be true, but if it is, I
>> seriously doubt that
>> >> Opening Space will do all that much good. Probably
>> better to just fire
>> >> (terminate) the lot. On the other hand, if that 1000
>> person collective
>> >> wisdom is of the sort and depth I suspect it to be ?
>> the allocation of time
>> >> is, if nothing else, short sighted and disrespectful.
>> It might seem that the
>> >> ?idiots and children? will be allowed a little play
>> time after the experts
>> >> and adults have set the stage. Am I suggesting that you
>> and your colleagues
>> >> thought this way? Definitely not. But that is a
>> possible conclusion based on
>> >> the facts on the ground. And I have definitely
>> experienced situations where
>> >> the ?thought? not only occurred, but was totally
>> conscious. Worst case was a
>> >> CEO of a large American corporation who was heard to
>> say, ?Never turn the
>> >> asylum over to the inmates.? The Asylum, of course was
>> the company, and the
>> >> ?inmates? were all the employees. Is it any wonder that
>> creativity and
>> >> innovation at that company were virtually non-existent,
>> and that employee
>> >> morale was dismal? Thankfully the company is now out of
>> business.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Doubtless I have gone way too far here, and knowing you
>> Sharon Joy, I know
>> >> that such thoughts would never enter your mind. That
>> said, I find that
>> >> sometimes what we do speaks so much louder than what we
>> think or say. And
>> >> even worse when our actions are the direct antithesis
>> of our real
>> >> intentions.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Harrison
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Harrison Owen
>> >>
>> >> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>> >>
>> >> Potomac, MD 20854
>> >>
>> >> USA
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>> >>
>> >> Camden, Maine 04843
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Phone 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>
>> >>
>> >> (summer) 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> >>
>> >> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com> (Personal
>> Website)
>> >>
>> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view
>> the archives of OSLIST
>> >> Go
>> to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> >> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On
>> Behalf Of Sharon Joy Chao
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 8:39 PM
>> >> To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> >> Subject: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government
>> people to go through
>> >> an exploratory discussion on high performance system,
>> all under 4 hours.
>> >>
>> >> This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu.
>> The focus is on the
>> >> Philippine government service, its performance
>> management system and how it
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>> >>
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>> thousand in 4 hours time?
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>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:04:55 +0000
>> From: K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is
>> <mailto:kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Subject: [OSList] open space in jeeps
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>>
>> I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has ever
>> attempted to
>> host a moving open space.
>>
>> If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then
>> perhaps it would
>> be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the road.
>> In my
>> extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years we
>> meet for a
>> road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and is
>> like an open
>> space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we stop
>> for an hour
>> in different locations where the power of the coffee brake
>> takes over
>> and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked
>> about. This
>> year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and
>> mixing up the
>> groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it
>> would continue
>> in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps was also
>> changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even
>> with the
>> possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have nice
>> clothing that
>> protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then we
>> keep our
>> papers in the jeeps.
>>
>> Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of
>> impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any wall
>> space would
>> need to be virtual. We already have good place markers
>> that we take
>> with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different
>> discussion
>> group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots would
>> be the place
>> names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at Geysir"
>> would be a
>> group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at the
>> Geysir
>> site.
>>
>> The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted
>> with a site
>> guide that dumps to much information in to short of a time
>> and hurries
>> along so most of the people become to tiered to talk about
>> other
>> maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have some
>> light and
>> informative information of the sites by use of the comm
>> system in the
>> jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag along
>> and enjoy the
>> sites while conversing with our groups by giving a little
>> more time, I
>> would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to
>> take in the
>> site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel the
>> spiritual
>> dimension of the discussion.
>>
>> In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a group
>> of jeep
>> traveling have almost all the parts that can be used for a
>> good open
>> space practice. The only missing part would be the wall
>> that would
>> need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone
>> application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system.
>>
>> There are two major factors that drive me to these
>> thoughts, one is
>> that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be stuck
>> in a building
>> when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that I
>> like groups
>> to come to my small country for experiencing these marvels
>> while going
>> on with the business that matters.
>>
>> Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments are
>> welcome.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:53:30 +0200
>> From: gerardo de luzenberger <xge at loci.it
>> <mailto:xge at loci.it>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] open space in jeeps
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>> Hi Kari, what marvellous story.
>> While reading I was just wondering
>> what happens to the law of two feet and
>> how you manage to aloud butterflying.
>> Are those lovely creatures that are just
>> there doing nothing sitting on a special car?
>> ge
>>
>> *Gerardo de Luzenberger**
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>>
>> 2013/7/11 K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is
>> <mailto:kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>>
>>
>> > I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has ever
>> attempted to
>> > host a moving open space.
>> >
>> > If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then
>> perhaps it would
>> > be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the
>> road. In my
>> > extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years
>> we meet for a
>> > road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and is
>> like an open
>> > space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we stop
>> for an hour
>> > in different locations where the power of the coffee
>> brake takes over
>> > and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked
>> about. This
>> > year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and
>> mixing up the
>> > groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it
>> would continue
>> > in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps was
>> also
>> > changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even
>> with the
>> > possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have nice
>> clothing that
>> > protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then
>> we keep our
>> > papers in the jeeps.
>> >
>> > Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of
>> > impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any
>> wall space would
>> > need to be virtual. We already have good place markers
>> that we take
>> > with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different
>> discussion
>> > group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots would
>> be the place
>> > names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at
>> Geysir" would be a
>> > group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at
>> the Geysir
>> > site.
>> >
>> > The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted
>> with a site
>> > guide that dumps to much information in to short of a
>> time and hurries
>> > along so most of the people become to tiered to talk
>> about other
>> > maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have some
>> light and
>> > informative information of the sites by use of the comm
>> system in the
>> > jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag along
>> and enjoy the
>> > sites while conversing with our groups by giving a
>> little more time, I
>> > would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to
>> take in the
>> > site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel the
>> spiritual
>> > dimension of the discussion.
>> >
>> > In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a
>> group of jeep
>> > traveling have almost all the parts that can be used for
>> a good open
>> > space practice. The only missing part would be the wall
>> that would
>> > need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone
>> > application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system.
>> >
>> > There are two major factors that drive me to these
>> thoughts, one is
>> > that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be stuck
>> in a building
>> > when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that I
>> like groups
>> > to come to my small country for experiencing these
>> marvels while going
>> > on with the business that matters.
>> >
>> > Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments are
>> welcome.
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>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 11:23:40 +0000
>> From: K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is
>> <mailto:kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
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>> Subject: Re: [OSList] open space in jeeps
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>> Hi Gerardo
>>
>> I have often been butterflying with my mind out of the
>> window enjoying
>> the marvels of the landscape while begin a passenger of a
>> Jeep, taking
>> no notice of the conversations happening next to me.
>>
>> In our Open Space Jeep ride with frequent stops for sites and
>> conversations and many Jeeps, the butterflies will see the
>> sites and
>> find them sleeves in different jeeps all of the time.
>>
>> I think Ill draft out a fun 3 day tour and an empowering 5
>> day tour
>> for this new moving by jeep open space format, with
>> hot-spring outdoor
>> thermal pools, geysers, volcanic lava-fields, waterfalls,
>> glaciers,
>> Nordic buffets, green energy sites and all the traditional
>> fun stuff,
>> ready for a topic and an invited group.
>>
>> with a breeze from Iceland
>> K?ri
>>
>>
>> On 11 July 2013 10:53, gerardo de luzenberger <xge at loci.it
>> <mailto:xge at loci.it>> wrote:
>> > Hi Kari, what marvellous story.
>> > While reading I was just wondering
>> > what happens to the law of two feet and
>> > how you manage to aloud butterflying.
>> > Are those lovely creatures that are just
>> > there doing nothing sitting on a special car?
>> > ge
>> >
>> > Gerardo de Luzenberger
>> > Mob: +39 3293281343 <tel:%2B39%203293281343>
>> > Tel: +39 02 89751746 <tel:%2B39%2002%2089751746>
>> > Fax: +39 02 87151318 <tel:%2B39%2002%2087151318>
>> > Skype: gerardodeluz ? xge at loci.it <mailto:xge at loci.it>
>> > IAF: Certified Professional Facilitator
>> >
>> > geniusloci
>> >
>> > facilitation & development
>> > PREMIO IMPRESA INNOVATIVA E CREATIVA
>> > DELLA PROVINCIA DI MILANO
>> > www.loci.it <http://www.loci.it> ? info at loci.it
>> <mailto:info at loci.it> http://www.flickr.com/photos/geniusloci/
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/7/11 K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is
>> <mailto:kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>>
>> >>
>> >> I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has
>> ever attempted to
>> >> host a moving open space.
>> >>
>> >> If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then
>> perhaps it would
>> >> be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the
>> road. In my
>> >> extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years
>> we meet for a
>> >> road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and
>> is like an open
>> >> space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we
>> stop for an hour
>> >> in different locations where the power of the coffee
>> brake takes over
>> >> and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked
>> about. This
>> >> year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and
>> mixing up the
>> >> groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it
>> would continue
>> >> in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps
>> was also
>> >> changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even
>> with the
>> >> possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have
>> nice clothing that
>> >> protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then
>> we keep our
>> >> papers in the jeeps.
>> >>
>> >> Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of
>> >> impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any
>> wall space would
>> >> need to be virtual. We already have good place markers
>> that we take
>> >> with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different
>> discussion
>> >> group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots
>> would be the place
>> >> names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at
>> Geysir" would be a
>> >> group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at
>> the Geysir
>> >> site.
>> >>
>> >> The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted
>> with a site
>> >> guide that dumps to much information in to short of a
>> time and hurries
>> >> along so most of the people become to tiered to talk
>> about other
>> >> maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have
>> some light and
>> >> informative information of the sites by use of the comm
>> system in the
>> >> jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag
>> along and enjoy the
>> >> sites while conversing with our groups by giving a
>> little more time, I
>> >> would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to
>> take in the
>> >> site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel
>> the spiritual
>> >> dimension of the discussion.
>> >>
>> >> In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a
>> group of jeep
>> >> traveling have almost all the parts that can be used
>> for a good open
>> >> space practice. The only missing part would be the wall
>> that would
>> >> need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone
>> >> application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system.
>> >>
>> >> There are two major factors that drive me to these
>> thoughts, one is
>> >> that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be
>> stuck in a building
>> >> when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that
>> I like groups
>> >> to come to my small country for experiencing these
>> marvels while going
>> >> on with the business that matters.
>> >>
>> >> Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments
>> are welcome.
>> >> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:35:31 -0400
>> From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net
>> <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>>
>> To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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>>
>> Scott - When teaching a kid to ride a bike, you only push
>> as long as you
>> have to. When the kid takes off - Let Them Go! In my
>> experience, when riding
>> the "Open Space Bike" a 15 min push will do the job,
>> provided the conditions
>> are right (real issue, complexity, diversity, etc).
>> Actually, with every
>> group I've ever worked with - large or small - it seems
>> like they already
>> knew how to ride. They just needed a gentle reminder - and
>> off they went. No
>> help needed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison Owen
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>
>> USA
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Camden, Maine 04843
>>
>>
>>
>> Phone 301-365-2093
>>
>> (summer) 207-763-3261
>>
>>
>>
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>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf
>> Of Scott Gassman
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:48 PM
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think
>> about the "ZERO
>> confidence," "about what is going on."
>>
>> That's good material for me to think about as I approach
>> future group
>> work.
>>
>> I am touched by your Kathie story. Kathie's respect for
>> you came out in a
>> conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and so
>> she really steered
>> me towards learning with you and Lisa up in Maine. I do
>> remember you leaving
>> to take a nap and me scratching my head - how - in the
>> middle, can you let
>> go? I guess until now I dance between the freedom of Open
>> Space and joint
>> design team sharing that anchors me to do as much as I can
>> to support the
>> group and deliver a quick start. I want the
>> organizational team to discover
>> and I also want to have them have those first few steps of
>> how to get going
>> on their own.
>>
>> I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also
>> "out of control,"
>> aiming to get them to keep pedaling and stay up.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Scott said - "Not all of us have your (that's me - HO)
>> confidence, clarity
>> or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an
>> organization we
>> may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially
>> filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large
>> group movement."
>>
>>
>>
>> Nice words, Scott - but once again I have a different
>> take. Truth is I have
>> ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my
>> "competence in all
>> situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we
>> may live/work in
>> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose
>> shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement."
>> Quite to the
>> contrary, I know totally and completely that I will NEVER
>> have a real clue
>> about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast
>> moving, opaque...
>> BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is
>> to invite them to
>> do what only they know how to do - and then, as quickly as
>> possible, get out
>> of the way. Usually to take a napJ
>>
>>
>>
>> And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend.
>> I respect her
>> greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what
>> she did, she didn't
>> use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was - "I'd be
>> terrified ... it
>> could get out of control." The big secret, of course, was
>> that she (as we
>> all are) was always out of control - so there was nothing
>> to lose.
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison Owen
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>
>> USA
>>
>>
>>
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>>
>> Camden, Maine 04843
>>
>>
>>
>> Phone 301-365-2093
>>
>> (summer) 207-763-3261
>>
>>
>>
>> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20>
>>
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>>
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>> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf
>> Of Scott Gassman
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>>
>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Harrison,
>>
>>
>>
>> Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how
>> to proceed and be
>> hopefully clearer about her design decisions.
>>
>> I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the
>> authenticity of how you
>> have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.
>>
>> Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence
>> in all situations
>> to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
>> and/or the
>> process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats,
>> whose shadow can slow
>> down the speed of large group movement.
>>
>> Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my
>> Kathie Dannemiller
>> lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make
>> the process
>> consciously the participants' process.
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Scott - I guess I really have a different take. I have
>> never seen any reason
>> to "plant" topics, or emplace "spark plugs." In every
>> situation with large
>> groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) - the
>> people do it all by
>> themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is
>> faster, and more
>> furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really
>> rolls. You just got to
>> get out of the way quickly - which is why I would make
>> sure the opening was
>> fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only - and on
>> with the show! Of
>> course the "necessary conditions" must be in place (real
>> business issue,
>> complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) - and
>> from there on out
>> the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create
>> bulletin board,
>> open market place - and go to work. Nothing else needed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison Owen
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>
>> USA
>>
>>
>>
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>>
>> Camden, Maine 04843
>>
>>
>>
>> Phone 301-365-2093
>>
>> (summer) 207-763-3261
>>
>>
>>
>> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20>
>>
>> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
>> <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)
>>
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>>
>> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf
>> Of Scott Gassman
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Sharon Joy,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our
>> experience and
>> imagination.
>>
>> Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For
>> me the joy of a
>> laid back
>>
>> OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger
>> numbers and
>> logistics. I
>>
>> want people to see what they can get done when they are
>> focused and led
>> through
>>
>> well planned OS tasks.
>>
>> I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants
>> to walk away with.
>> I try to
>>
>> get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of
>> design teams
>> preceding
>>
>> any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10
>> vertically
>> positioned
>>
>> influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get
>> together and confirm
>> sought
>>
>> desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a
>> list of important
>> topics
>>
>> for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital
>> few examples. I
>> would also
>>
>> encourage this group to recognize the significance of
>> their role and to
>> serve as
>>
>> spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.
>>
>> However the session is opened, I would include a design
>> team member or two
>> to share their
>>
>> hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly
>> share the list of
>> topics as examples
>>
>> for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them
>> per the "high
>> performance
>>
>> system"sought.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a great opportunity for your government to work
>> together.
>>
>> I also look forward to learning about your experience and
>> next steps.
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott Gassman
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao
>> <sharon at seameo-innotech.org
>> <mailto:sharon at seameo-innotech.org>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government
>> people to go through
>> an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all
>> under 4 hours.
>>
>> This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The
>> focus is on the
>> Philippine government service, its performance management
>> system and how it
>> can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>>
>> Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some
>> incredible
>> suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to
>> post on OSList.
>>
>> Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of
>> thousand in 4 hours time?
>>
>>
>> Maraming Salamat.
>>
>> ========================================
>> Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
>> SEAMEO INNOTECH
>> Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
>> Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
>> Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
>> Fax (632) 928-7692
>>
>>
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 14:38:15 +0200
>> From: Lise Damkj?r <lise at learning4life.dk
>> <mailto:lise at learning4life.dk>>
>> To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
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>> Subject: Re: [OSList] open space in jeeps
>> Message-ID: <51DEA737.2070201 at learning4life.dk
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>> Hey K?ri
>>
>> I really like your idea - I certainly would like to enjoy
>> Iceland and do
>> an open space at the same time - lot of fun with the jeeps
>> as well I think.
>>
>> I hope your idea will grow and become thrue one day...
>>
>> Lise, Copenhagen
>>
>> Den 11-07-2013 10:04, K?ri Gunnarsson skrev:
>> > I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has ever
>> attempted to
>> > host a moving open space.
>> >
>> > If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then
>> perhaps it would
>> > be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the
>> road. In my
>> > extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years
>> we meet for a
>> > road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and is
>> like an open
>> > space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we stop
>> for an hour
>> > in different locations where the power of the coffee
>> brake takes over
>> > and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked
>> about. This
>> > year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and
>> mixing up the
>> > groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it
>> would continue
>> > in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps was
>> also
>> > changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even
>> with the
>> > possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have nice
>> clothing that
>> > protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then
>> we keep our
>> > papers in the jeeps.
>> >
>> > Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of
>> > impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any
>> wall space would
>> > need to be virtual. We already have good place markers
>> that we take
>> > with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different
>> discussion
>> > group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots would
>> be the place
>> > names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at
>> Geysir" would be a
>> > group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at
>> the Geysir
>> > site.
>> >
>> > The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted
>> with a site
>> > guide that dumps to much information in to short of a
>> time and hurries
>> > along so most of the people become to tiered to talk
>> about other
>> > maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have some
>> light and
>> > informative information of the sites by use of the comm
>> system in the
>> > jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag along
>> and enjoy the
>> > sites while conversing with our groups by giving a
>> little more time, I
>> > would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to
>> take in the
>> > site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel the
>> spiritual
>> > dimension of the discussion.
>> >
>> > In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a
>> group of jeep
>> > traveling have almost all the parts that can be used for
>> a good open
>> > space practice. The only missing part would be the wall
>> that would
>> > need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone
>> > application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system.
>> >
>> > There are two major factors that drive me to these
>> thoughts, one is
>> > that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be stuck
>> in a building
>> > when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that I
>> like groups
>> > to come to my small country for experiencing these
>> marvels while going
>> > on with the business that matters.
>> >
>> > Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments are
>> welcome.
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>> Message: 12
>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 06:33:30 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: chunili2000 at yahoo.com <mailto:chunili2000 at yahoo.com>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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>>
>> Interesting discussion...
>> Scott, you said: "I want the organizational team to
>> discover and I also want to have them have those first few
>> steps of how to get going on their own.?" What do THEY want?
>> ?
>> I guess a fundamental message that needs to be clearly
>> conveyed?from the outset?is who's responsible for the
>> outcomes of the meeting? If you are, and so communicated,
>> I can see your desire to make sure certain things
>> happen...but if they are, and agree to it, then you are
>> simply providing an environment that allows them to be
>> their own leaders and be responsible for their?own
>> passions. If things don't turn out to their satisfaction,
>> there is something to be learned?about themselves.
>> ?
>> I would focus the planning on the logistics so that the
>> least amount of time is wasted.
>> ?
>> ?
>> ?
>> Chuni Li
>> ?
>>
>> ?
>> From: Scott Gassman <scott.gassman at gmail.com
>> <mailto:scott.gassman at gmail.com>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison,
>>
>> I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think
>> about the "ZERO confidence," "about what is going on."?
>> That's ?good ?material for me to think about as I approach
>> future group work.?
>> I am touched by your Kathie story. ?Kathie's respect for
>> you came out in a conversation and made me want to learn
>> Open Space, and so she really steered me towards learning
>> with you and Lisa up in Maine. I do remember you leaving
>> to take a nap and me scratching my head - how - in the
>> middle, can you let go? I guess until now I dance between
>> the freedom of Open Space and joint?design team?sharing
>> that anchors me to do as much as I can to support the
>> group and deliver a quick start. ?I want the
>> organizational team to discover and I also want to have
>> them have those first few steps of how to get going on
>> their own.?
>> I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also
>> "out of control," aiming to get them to keep pedaling ?and
>> stay up.
>>
>> Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO)
>> confidence, clarity or competence in all situations to
>> trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
>> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large
>> group movement.??
>> >?
>> >Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different
>> take. Truth is I have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of
>> clarity, in my ?competence in all situations to trust
>> (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
>> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large
>> group movement.? Quite to the contrary, ?I know totally
>> and completely that I will NEVER have a real clue about
>> what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast
>> moving, opaque... BUT the people do. My only
>> responsibility (possibility) is to invite them to do what
>> only they know how to do ? and then, as quickly as
>> possible, get out of the way. Usually to take a napJ
>> >?
>> >And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend.
>> I respect her greatly. And... somebody once asked her why,
>> given what she did, she didn?t use Open Space. Her reply,
>> as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be terrified ... it could get
>> out of control.? The big secret, of course, was that she
>> (as we all are) was always out of control ? so there was
>> nothing to lose.
>> >Harrison
>> >?
>> >?
>> >?
>> >Harrison Owen
>> >7808 River Falls Dr.
>> >Potomac, MD 20854
>> >USA
>> >?
>> >189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>> >Camden, Maine 04843
>> >?
>> >Phone 301-365-2093
>> >(summer)? 207-763-3261
>> >?
>> >www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> >www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com> (Personal Website)
>> >To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>> archives of OSLIST Go
>> to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>> >?
>> >From:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf
>> Of Scott Gassman
>> >Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>> >
>> >To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> >Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>> >?
>> >Hi Harrison,
>> >?
>> >Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how
>> to proceed and be hopefully clearer about her design
>> decisions.
>> >I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly,"?and the
>> authenticity of how you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I
>> love it when I do it.
>> >Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence
>> in all situations to trust ourselves, in an organization
>> we may live/work in and/or the process in a room
>> potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow
>> down the speed of large group movement.?
>> >Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my
>> Kathie Dannemiller lessons about Design Teams has helped
>> me to usually make the process consciously the
>> participants' process.
>> >?
>> >Scott
>> >?
>> >On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>> >Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have
>> never seen any reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark
>> plugs.? In every situation with large groups in my
>> experience (my largest was 2108 J) ? the people do it all
>> by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is
>> faster, and more furious with a large group. Once it
>> rolls, it really rolls. You just got to get out of the way
>> quickly ? which is why I would make sure the opening was
>> fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only ? and on
>> with the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must
>> be in place (real business issue, complexity, diversity,
>> passion, conflict, urgency) ? and from there on out the
>> only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create
>> bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work.
>> Nothing else needed.
>> >?
>> >Harrison
>> >?
>> >Harrison Owen
>> >7808 River Falls Dr.
>> >Potomac, MD 20854
>> >USA
>> >?
>> >189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>> >Camden, Maine 04843
>> >?
>> >Phone 301-365-2093
>> >(summer)? 207-763-3261
>> >?
>> >http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/
>> >http://www.ho-image.com%20/ (Personal Website)
>> >To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>> archives of OSLIST Go
>> to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>> >?
>> >From:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf
>> Of Scott Gassman
>> >Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
>> >To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> >Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>> >?
>> >Hi Sharon Joy,
>> >?
>> >Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our
>> experience and imagination.
>> >Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought.
>> For me the joy of a laid back?
>> >OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger
>> numbers and logistics. I?
>> >want people to?see what they can get done when they are
>> focused and led through?
>> >well planned OS tasks.?
>> >I think about the?outcome/purpose the client/group wants
>> to walk away with. I try to?
>> >get clear on their?goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of
>> design teams preceding?
>> >any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to
>> 10 vertically positioned?
>> >influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get
>> together and confirm sought?
>> >desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a
>> list of important topics
>> >for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital
>> few examples. I would also?
>> >encourage this group to recognize the significance of
>> their role and to serve as?
>> >spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.
>> >However the session is opened, I would include a design
>> team member or two to share their?
>> >hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly
>> share the list of topics as examples?
>> >for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them
>> per the "high performance?
>> >system"sought.
>> >?
>> >This is a great opportunity for your government to work
>> together.
>> >I also look forward to learning about your experience and
>> next steps.
>> >?
>> >Scott Gassman
>> >?
>> >?
>> >?
>> >On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao
>> <sharon at seameo-innotech.org
>> <mailto:sharon at seameo-innotech.org>> wrote:
>> >Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government
>> people to go through an exploratory discussion on high
>> performance system, all under 4 hours.
>> >
>> >This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu.
>> The focus is on the Philippine government service, its
>> performance management system and how it can be truly
>> essential, responsive and life-giving.
>> >
>> >Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some
>> incredible suggestions on how to proceed and she also
>> advised me to post on OSList.
>> >
>> >Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of
>> thousand in 4 hours time?
>> >
>> >Maraming Salamat.
>> >
>> >========================================
>> >Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
>> >SEAMEO INNOTECH
>> >Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
>> >Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
>> >Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
>> >Fax (632) 928-7692
>> >
>> >
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>> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:38:20 +0200
>> From: Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring
>> <adriana at diazberrio.com <mailto:adriana at diazberrio.com>>
>> To: chunili2000 at yahoo.com <mailto:chunili2000 at yahoo.com>,
>> World wide Open Space Technology email list
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>> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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>> Hello: Responding to the question about an OS for a large
>> group but e few
>> hours I agree with Lisa and I want to say that yes it is
>> very importqnt to
>> have a lot os space for the agenda. I had 320 participants
>> last week and
>> this was a problem because they had problems getting to
>> the wall to read.
>> For the closing circle they helped put the chairs back in
>> circles and I
>> just took a few interventions but it was really interesting!
>>
>> Adriana
>>
>> 2013/7/11 <chunili2000 at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:chunili2000 at yahoo.com>>
>>
>> > Interesting discussion...
>> > Scott, you said: "I want the organizational team to
>> discover and I also
>> > want to have them have those first few steps of how to
>> get going on their
>> > own. " What do THEY want?
>> >
>> > I guess a fundamental message that needs to be clearly
>> conveyed from the
>> > outset is who's responsible for the outcomes of the
>> meeting? If you are,
>> > and so communicated, I can see your desire to make sure
>> certain things
>> > happen...but if they are, and agree to it, then you are
>> simply providing an
>> > environment that allows them to be their own leaders and
>> be responsible for
>> > their own passions. If things don't turn out to their
>> satisfaction, there
>> > is something to be learned about themselves.
>> >
>> > I would focus the planning on the logistics so that the
>> least amount of
>> > time is wasted.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Chuni Li
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > *From:* Scott Gassman <scott.gassman at gmail.com
>> <mailto:scott.gassman at gmail.com>>
>> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list <
>> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:47 PM
>> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>> >
>> > Harrison,
>> >
>> > I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think
>> about the "ZERO
>> > confidence," "about what is going on."
>> > That's good material for me to think about as I
>> approach future group
>> > work.
>> > I am touched by your Kathie story. Kathie's respect for
>> you came out in a
>> > conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and
>> so she really
>> > steered me towards learning with you and Lisa up in
>> Maine. I do remember
>> > you leaving to take a nap and me scratching my head -
>> how - in the middle,
>> > can you let go? I guess until now I dance between the
>> freedom of Open Space
>> > and joint design team sharing that anchors me to do as
>> much as I can to
>> > support the group and deliver a quick start. I want the
>> organizational
>> > team to discover and I also want to have them have those
>> first few steps of
>> > how to get going on their own.
>> > I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle,
>> also "out of
>> > control," aiming to get them to keep pedaling and stay up.
>> >
>> > Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy.
>> >
>> > Scott
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO)
>> confidence,
>> > clarity or competence in all situations to trust
>> ourselves, in an
>> > organization we may live/work in and/or the process in a
>> room potentially
>> > filled with bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the
>> speed of large
>> > group movement.? ****
>> > ** **
>> > Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different
>> take. Truth is I
>> > have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my
>> ?competence in all
>> > situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we
>> may live/work in
>> > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose
>> > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.?
>> Quite to the
>> > contrary, I know totally and completely that I will
>> NEVER have a real clue
>> > about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast
>> moving, opaque...
>> > BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility)
>> is to invite them
>> > to do what only they know how to do ? and then, as
>> quickly as possible, get
>> > out of the way. Usually to take a napJ****
>> > ** **
>> > And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a
>> friend. I respect her
>> > greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what
>> she did, she didn?t
>> > use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be
>> terrified ... it
>> > could get out of control.? The big secret, of course,
>> was that she (as we
>> > all are) was always out of control ? so there was
>> nothing to lose.****
>> > ****
>> > Harrison****
>> > ** **
>> > ** **
>> > ** **
>> > Harrison Owen****
>> > 7808 River Falls Dr.****
>> > Potomac, MD 20854****
>> > USA****
>> > ** **
>> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
>> > Camden, Maine 04843****
>> > ** **
>> > Phone 301-365-2093****
>> > (summer) 207-763-3261****
>> > ** **
>> > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>> <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/> ****
>> > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
>> <http://www.ho-image.com%20/> (Personal Website)****
>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>> archives of
>> > OSLIST Go to:
>> >
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
>> > ** **
>> > *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> [mailto:
>> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>> >
>> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>> > ** **
>> > Hi Harrison,****
>> > ** **
>> > Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about
>> how to proceed and
>> > be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.****
>> > I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the
>> authenticity of how
>> > you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do
>> it.****
>> > Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or
>> competence in all
>> > situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may
>> live/work in
>> > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
>> bureaucrats, whose
>> > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement. ****
>> > Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my
>> Kathie Dannemillerlessons about Design Teams has helped me
>> to usually make the process
>> > consciously the participants' process.****
>> > ** **
>> > Scott****
>> > ** **
>> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen
>> <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>>
>> > wrote:****
>> > Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have
>> never seen any
>> > reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In
>> every situation
>> > with large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108
>> J) ? the people
>> > do it all by themselves, just like usual. If anything
>> the action is faster,
>> > and more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it
>> really rolls. You
>> > just got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I
>> would make sure the
>> > opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator)
>> only ? and on with
>> > the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be
>> in place (real
>> > business issue, complexity, diversity, passion,
>> conflict, urgency) ? and
>> > from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit
>> in a circle, create
>> > bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work.
>> Nothing else needed.**
>> > **
>> > ****
>> > Harrison****
>> > ****
>> > Harrison Owen****
>> > 7808 River Falls Dr.****
>> > Potomac, MD 20854****
>> > USA****
>> > ****
>> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
>> > Camden, Maine 04843****
>> > ****
>> > Phone 301-365-2093****
>> > (summer) 207-763-3261****
>> > ****
>> > http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/ ****
>> > http://www.ho-image.com%20/ (Personal Website)****
>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
>> archives of
>> > OSLIST Go to:
>> >
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
>> > ****
>> > *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> [mailto:
>> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
>> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>> > ****
>> > Hi Sharon Joy,****
>> > ****
>> > Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our
>> experience and
>> > imagination.****
>> > Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought.
>> For me the joy of
>> > a laid back ****
>> > OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames,
>> larger numbers and
>> > logistics. I ****
>> > want people to see what they can get done when they are
>> focused and led
>> > through ****
>> > well planned OS tasks. ****
>> > I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group
>> wants to walk away
>> > with. I try to ****
>> > get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond
>> of design teams
>> > preceding ****
>> > any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to
>> 10 vertically
>> > positioned ****
>> > influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get
>> together and
>> > confirm sought ****
>> > desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a
>> list of
>> > important topics****
>> > for this conversation and to rework the list into a
>> vital few examples.
>> > I would also ****
>> > encourage this group to recognize the significance of
>> their role and to
>> > serve as ****
>> > spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.****
>> > However the session is opened, I would include a design
>> team member or
>> > two to share their ****
>> > hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly
>> share the list of
>> > topics as examples ****
>> > for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them
>> per the "high
>> > performance ****
>> > system"sought.****
>> > ****
>> > This is a great opportunity for your government to work
>> together.****
>> > I also look forward to learning about your experience
>> and next steps.****
>> > ****
>> > Scott Gassman****
>> > ****
>> > ****
>> > ****
>> > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
>> > sharon at seameo-innotech.org
>> <mailto:sharon at seameo-innotech.org>> wrote:****
>> > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government
>> people to go
>> > through an exploratory discussion on high performance
>> system, all under 4
>> > hours.
>> >
>> > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu.
>> The focus is on the
>> > Philippine government service, its performance
>> management system and how it
>> > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>> >
>> > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with
>> some incredible
>> > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to
>> post on OSList.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of
>> thousand in 4 hours
>> > time?
>> >
>> > Maraming Salamat.
>> >
>> > ========================================
>> > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
>> > SEAMEO INNOTECH
>> > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
>> > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
>> > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
>> > Fax (632) 928-7692
>> >
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