[OSList] patterns in nature and open space

[Skye Hirst]

correction on link  www.autognomics.org/skye-blog
Skye


On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Skye Hirst <skyeh at autognomics.org> wrote:

> I hesitate to introduce here the work of Autognomics but we have been
> studying and looking for living/life's "organizing principles ( "Organizing
> principles (scientific laws) are delimiting principles; they exclude the
> infinity of the possible to create (and reveal) the actual.  They exclude
> rather than predict or simulate.  They need not involve finite variables,
> nor do they need to be deterministic or even quasi-deterministic" Norm Hirst)
> Such principles function within living entities" and cannot be observed
> empirically alone, (you will never see in the data what creates the data,
> NH) groups, organizations do exhibit such principles, of course,  and we've
> seen such "process"  laws as showing up in principles of "organisms"  but
> to fully get at what and how these organizing principles work, we're still
> trying to get down to the most foundational which requires looking at the
> "metaphysics"  defined here in the words of
>
> Metaphysics defined:  Bohm
> Metaphysics is in esssence a set of basic assumptions about the general
> order and structure of all existence. Whenever we say “All is X”  or “X
> is always (or never) true” we are expressing a metaphysical position.
>
> Autopoiesis offers many of the "pointers"  towards these principles - and
> there's lots of work needed to pull together many of these pointers (books
> like Holman's Engaging Emergence) to get to the metaphysics but I do
> believe those pointers experienced in Open Space processes are exhibited
> and experienced over and over again by life in many of its infinite forms.
> Love to continue with anyone interested in going into this process with
> us.  The Lincoln Movie has lovely examples of these laws.  I've written a
> bit about that on my blog www.autognomics.org/skye/blog.
>
> skyeh at autognomics.org
> www.autognomics.org
> twitter @autognomics
> 207-236-6331
>
>
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> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 9:21 AM, JL Walker <jlwalker at terra.cl> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris and all,****
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>> While I've not studied them sufficiently, I think that Humberto Maturana
>> and Francisco Varela have many of the answers that you are looking for
>> through its formulation of the process called “autopoiesis”.****
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>> Please see the following links in Wikipedia:****
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>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopoiesis****
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>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humberto_Maturana****
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>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Varela****
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>> "*Living systems <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_systems> are
>> cognitive systems, and living as a process is a process of cognition*.
>> This statement is valid for all organisms, with or without a nervous
>> system."**
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>> I hope is useful.****
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>> Hugs,****
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>> Juan Luis****
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>> *De:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
>> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *En nombre de *Chris Weaver
>> *Enviado el:* sábado, 15 de diciembre de 2012 11:25
>> *Para:* OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
>> *Asunto:* [OSList] patterns in nature and open space****
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>> Hi OSList,****
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>> I am interested in ways that OST and other methodologies flow according
>> to patterns that are present in living systems in nature (Some would use
>> the term biomimicry).****
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>> Do any of you have some specific examples from biology, ecology, and the
>> like of natural patterns and systems that are in some way similar to OST?
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>> Thanks!****
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>> Chris****
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