[OSList] patterns in nature and open space

[Skye Hirst]

I hesitate to introduce here the work of Autognomics but we have been
studying and looking for living/life's "organizing principles ( "Organizing
principles (scientific laws) are delimiting principles; they exclude the
infinity of the possible to create (and reveal) the actual.  They exclude
rather than predict or simulate.  They need not involve finite variables,
nor do they need to be deterministic or even quasi-deterministic" Norm Hirst)
Such principles function within living entities" and cannot be observed
empirically alone, (you will never see in the data what creates the data,
NH) groups, organizations do exhibit such principles, of course,  and we've
seen such "process"  laws as showing up in principles of "organisms"  but
to fully get at what and how these organizing principles work, we're still
trying to get down to the most foundational which requires looking at the
"metaphysics"  defined here in the words of

Metaphysics defined:  Bohm
Metaphysics is in esssence a set of basic assumptions about the general
order and structure of all existence. Whenever we say “All is X”  or “X is
always (or never) true” we are expressing a metaphysical position.

Autopoiesis offers many of the "pointers"  towards these principles - and
there's lots of work needed to pull together many of these pointers (books
like Holman's Engaging Emergence) to get to the metaphysics but I do
believe those pointers experienced in Open Space processes are exhibited
and experienced over and over again by life in many of its infinite forms.
Love to continue with anyone interested in going into this process with
us.  The Lincoln Movie has lovely examples of these laws.  I've written a
bit about that on my blog www.autognomics.org/skye/blog.

skyeh at autognomics.org
www.autognomics.org
twitter @autognomics
207-236-6331



On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 9:21 AM, JL Walker <jlwalker at terra.cl> wrote:

> Hi Chris and all,****
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> While I've not studied them sufficiently, I think that Humberto Maturana
> and Francisco Varela have many of the answers that you are looking for
> through its formulation of the process called “autopoiesis”.****
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> Please see the following links in Wikipedia:****
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopoiesis****
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humberto_Maturana****
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Varela****
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> "*Living systems <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_systems> are
> cognitive systems, and living as a process is a process of cognition*.
> This statement is valid for all organisms, with or without a nervous
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> I hope is useful.****
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> Hugs,****
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> Juan Luis****
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> *De:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *En nombre de *Chris Weaver
> *Enviado el:* sábado, 15 de diciembre de 2012 11:25
> *Para:* OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> *Asunto:* [OSList] patterns in nature and open space****
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> Hi OSList,****
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> I am interested in ways that OST and other methodologies flow according to
> patterns that are present in living systems in nature (Some would use the
> term biomimicry).****
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> Do any of you have some specific examples from biology, ecology, and the
> like of natural patterns and systems that are in some way similar to OST?*
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> Thanks!****
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> Chris****
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