[OSList] Happy wosonos - From Chile to London

Sat Oct 22 08:21:52 PDT 2011

Artur,

Thanks for this lots of great things to consider. 

And prompts lots of thoughts for me...

As we begin to explore how technology links us up ( and as someone who is slightly geeky I enjoy those possibilities) I also find myself fascinated how often something like Suzanne's simple reports bring me closer than being able to view something through a camera like a security guard!  Perhaps more interesting than this would be a booth where people can go give personal reports at specific times.  

I'm thinking out loud here so..

I can hear lots of different sides to this...

Whoever comes are the right people. 

Whoever went are the right people. 

Sometimes we have to accept we didn't make it there.

A live feed doesn't always "feed", isn't always nourishing and also shouldn't mean we can expect to be fed!

Being able to see a little bit makes us think they should be thinking about us more? Makes us want to be part of a party we didn't make it to? 

I think perhaps for those not there.. the communications that happen "Live" are less about information out... Than information in. What I mean for example is..  "Twitter" (and I know you say you don't like it) has really changed our D&D events by providing a  stream of information and support from the outside world into the space. It has let the people at the event know there are people elsewhere  thinking of us and proposing ideas. You aren't there but you can get messages in to people from outside.

The twitter stream only seems to take off internally when the people who use it... Use it. Often it's the younger people who it's second nature for. So in the "twittersfere" it becomes like a party people can hear next door. Then the information starts to move outward... 

As ever you can't force it to happen and when it emerges it is both surprising and enjoyable. But being told to have a good time at a party and play a game you don't want to play can certainly slow down the fun happening. It's taken years for it to start happening at our D&D events but it did last year and brought a whole wave of new participants. This is like "atmospheric" communication out.. 

Like your being able to not hear whilst being able to see, it strangely stops us trying to imagine how we might join in the conversation.. (we can't in the same way as we are not there) but use our different senses to connect to the spirit of what is happening. 

So if we go down the technology route I think the information out needs a bit more creativity and form... Such as editing and filtering so people get the feel of the event whilst accepting their live contribution will be limited because they are NOT present.  This needs time and energy and the stream out is more likely to happen after the event perhaps as a next wave. Also perhaps  making any kind of live OUT stream just more obvious to be used when people WANT to. 

However.. rather like TV arrogantly thinking live theatre should accommodate it we should remember what makes OS special.  I think we have to be sensitive to the beauty of the LIVE event. Knowing that I have cameras watching me and having to think about it can just be something that can get in the way of getting on with the important work at hand.  

I think what I'm trying to say is. We shouldn't get confused by these possibilities into thinking its about people who aren't there being able to join in better!  Those possibilities are about communicating more elegantly to those not there what is happening!

This doesn't mean we shouldn't have all those tools ready to be used when the new form emerges out of the energy of the group to say for instance.."Suddenly go live.. And talk to the world!"

Or create the wiki that can be contributed to. Etc..

We can make the edges of the system more porous but those holding boundaries of the event are what make the event important in the first place. The edge between those who came and those who didn't. 

In terms of the event I know that the real out comes.. "Out-streams" are never the ones i think they are going to be. Who ever knows what ways opening space changes things? Some conscious.. Some mysterious. 

I do know the interface between technology and opening space is an interesting one and trying to catch ghosts on camera is always fun!

Love

Phelim X
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On 22 Oct 2011, at 06:36, Artur Silva <arturfsilva at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Dear Juan Luis and the entire Host team of WOSonOS in Chile,
> Dear Suzanne,
> Dear members of the London Host team for WOSonOS 2012,
> 
> 
> While I wait for the fully report Juan Luis has offered I have been following the WOSonOS in Chile, from 3 sources: 
> (1) The marvelous messages that Suzanne is sending regularly about what happens in Chile; 
> (2) The very synthetic messages from Pablo at the "WOSonOS" group at the NING site (http://openspaceworld.ning.com/group/wosonoschile);
> (3) The streaming available from http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wosonos-chile-2011. 
>  
> [I am not following Twitter, as I don't like it...] 
>  
> The streaming is interesting in many ways. I have "made time" to see the opening session and the morning (after my lunch in Lisbon...) and evening news of the second day (after my dinner). In the opening, one could see everything but hear nothing. After that, the position of the (fixed) camera has changed (thanks, Pablo) and, from time to time, I was able to understand small parts of some interventions...
>  
> It is interesting to see people moving around without hearing almost anything as in mute films or in bird watching - one can see the "dance" and that's it! From this limited point of view, I concluded that the dance was marvelous in the opening (made by Juan Luis and Karen) and not very interesting in the "Mexican Ola-like - but with shouting" (Ola meaning wave) in the beginning of the second day, and one could hear some of the interventions in the evening news.
>  
> One conclusion that I took is that people present in the event must be informed that the streaming is being done and that to be heard far from the location they must speak with the mouth close to the micro (and don't use bells near the micro...).
>  
> But a more general conclusions that I took is that if one plans to do a "Worldwide OSonOS" (and not only a "regional WOSonOS with some people from other regions" - a bunch from the USA, one from Asia and no one from Europe, if I understood well), close attention must be putted in the way to facilitate worldwide dissemination and even participation.
>  
> Please don't see my remarks and suggestions bellow as any criticism to the Chilean Host team, which is making a very good job, as I can understand from Suzanne's messages, but as suggestions for the London Host Team and for other future WOSonOS organizers.
>  
> First: WOSonOS must not be considered in the future only as a gathering of the people that are able to come to the event location, but as an event that takes place worldwide, based on a specific location, but not restricted to it. The new IT possibilities must be fully used to assure worldwide participation. 
>  
> Second: there must be used a fixed camera and a mobile one, and have someone monitoring what the world is seeing and hearing (or not) at every time. Having conversation in front of the camera must not be done.
>  
> Third: Reports of break out session must be made directly in a wiki, with instructions to the viewers that they can't edit, but they can add comments to the discussion (as it was done when the WOSonOS took place in Denmark some years ago). This can easily be done from free wiki site providers.
>  
> Fourth: a reporter must be assigned to make written and/or graphic reports to be displayed daily in the same wiki, or in a linked blog – with photos and videos (from the streaming) also available for the ones that can´t connect synchronously.
>  
> Due to the special characteristics of the UK group that is inviting the 2012 WOSonOS, I think that all this suggestions will be easily done by them - if they accept the concept...
>  
>  
> With care, 
>  
> Artur   
> 
>   
> 
> From: JL Walker <jlwalker at terra.cl>
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> Sent: Friday, October 21, 2011 5:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Happy wosonos
> 
> Dear friends,
> Thank you very much for all your messages and expressions of support and good wishes. For here I am very happy and I feel the inspiration, excitement and joy of all the 38 participants. I'll have time in the coming days to tell the experience in more detail.
> Besos & Abrazos,
> Juan Luis
>  
> De: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] En nombre de Harrison Owen
> Enviado el: viernes, 21 de octubre de 2011 11:27
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> Arno – thanks for posting the link. I am in Chile, enjoying all the fun, and it is nice to know that the spirit has reached to Talin!
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> Subject: [OSList] Happy wosonos
>  
> Dear All,
>  
> Happy WOSONOS in Chile!
>  
> The Ustream http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wosonos-chile-2011
> makes the Spiritus loci almost tangible.
>  
> Be well,
>  
> Arno
> Tallinn, Estonia
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