<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Artur,</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for this lots of great things to consider. </div><div><br></div><div>And prompts lots of thoughts for me...</div><div><br></div><div>As we begin to explore how technology links us up ( and as someone who is slightly geeky I enjoy those possibilities) I also<span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> find myself fascinated how often something like Suzanne's simple reports bring me closer than being able to view something through a camera like a security guard! </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">Perhaps more interesting than this would be a booth where people can go give personal reports at specific times. </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">I'm thinking out loud here so..</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">I can hear lots of different sides to this...</span></div></span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">Whoever comes are the right people. </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">Whoever went are the right people. </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">Sometimes we have to accept we didn't make it there.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">A live feed doesn't always "feed", isn't always nourishing and also shouldn't mean we can expect to be fed!</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">Being able to see a little bit makes us think they should be thinking about us more? Makes us want to be part of a party we didn't make it to? </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">I think perhaps for those not there.. the communications that happen "Live" are less about information out... Than information in. What I mean for example is.. "Twitter" (and I know you say you don't like it) has really changed our D&D events by providing a stream of information and support from the outside world into the space. It has let the people at the event know there are people elsewhere thinking of us and proposing ideas. You aren't there but you can get messages in to people from outside.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">The twitter stream only seems to take off internally when the people who use it... Use it. Often it's the younger people who it's second nature for. So in the "twittersfere" it becomes like a party people can hear next door. Then the information starts to move outward... </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">As ever you can't force it to happen and when it emerges it is both surprising and enjoyable. But being told to have a good time at a party and play a game you don't want to play can certainly slow down the fun happening. </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">It's taken years for it to start happening at our D&D events but it did last year and brought a whole wave of new participants. This is like "atmospheric" communication out.. </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">Like your being able to not hear whilst being able to see, it strangely stops us trying to imagine how we might join in the conversation.. (we can't in the same way as we are not there) but use our different senses to connect to the spirit of what is happening. </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">So if we go down the technology route I think the information out needs a bit more creativity and form... Such as editing and filtering so people get the feel of the event whilst accepting their live contribution will be limited because they are NOT present. This needs time and energy and the stream out is more likely to happen after the event perhaps as a next wave. Also perhaps making any kind of live OUT stream just more obvious to be used when people WANT to. </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">However.. rather like TV arrogantly t</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">hinking live theatre should accommodate it we should remember what makes OS special. I think we have to be sensitive to the beauty of the LIVE event. Knowing that I have cameras watching me and having to think about it </span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">can just be something that can get in the way of getting on with the important work at hand. </span></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br></span></span></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">I think what I'm trying to say is. We shouldn't get confused by these possibilities into thinking its about people who aren't there being able to join in better! Those possibilities are about communicating more elegantly to those not there what is happening!</span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">This doesn't mean we shouldn't have all those tools ready to be used when the new form emerges out of the energy of the group to say for instance.."Suddenly go live.. And talk to the world!"</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">Or create the wiki that can be contributed to. Etc..<br></span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">We can make the edges of the system more porous but those holding boundaries of the event are what make the event important in the first place. The edge between those who came and those who didn't. </span></div><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">In terms of the event I know that the real out comes.. "Out-streams" are never the ones i think they are going to be. Who ever knows what ways opening space changes things? Some conscious.. Some mysterious. </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">I do know the interface between technology and opening space is an interesting one and trying to catch ghosts on camera is always fun!</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">Love</span></div><div><div><br></div><div>Phelim X</div><div>________________________________</div><div><br></div>I generally pick up<span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> emails only at the beginning and end of the working day. I am currently aiming to respond the following day. If it is urgent please call me on 07956 187298. </span><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);">_____________________________________</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469);"><br></span></div><div><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><a href="http://www.improbable.co.uk">www.improbable.co.uk</a></span></div><div>@openspacer</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div><div><br>On 22 Oct 2011, at 06:36, Artur Silva <<a href="mailto:arturfsilva@yahoo.com">arturfsilva@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div id="yiv1515886835"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; "><div id="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_131926972676148" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; "><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">Dear
Juan Luis and the entire Host team of WOSonOS in Chile,<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">Dear
Suzanne,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">Dear members of the London Host team for WOSonOS 2012,</span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT"><br>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">While
I wait for the fully report Juan Luis has offered I have been following the
WOSonOS in Chile, from 3 sources: <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
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color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">(1)
The marvelous messages that Suzanne is sending regularly about what happens in
Chile; <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
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color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">(2)
The very synthetic messages from Pablo at the "WOSonOS" group at the
NING site (<a href="http://openspaceworld.ning.com/group/wosonoschile" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">http://openspaceworld.ning.com/group/wosonoschile</span></a>);<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
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color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">(3)
The streaming available from </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:
13.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#234786;background:white;
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT"><a href="http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wosonos-chile-2011" target="_blank"><span style="color:#234786">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wosonos-chile-2011</span></a></span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">. </span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
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color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">[I
am not following Twitter, as I don't like it...] <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">The
streaming is interesting in many ways. I have "made time" to see the
opening session and the morning (after my lunch in Lisbon...) and evening news of
the second day (after my dinner). In the opening, one could see everything <b>but
hear nothing</b>. After that, the position of the (fixed) camera has changed
(thanks, Pablo) and, from time to time, I was able to understand <b>small
parts of some</b> interventions...<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">It
is interesting to see people moving around without hearing almost anything as in
mute films or in bird watching - one can see the "dance" and that's
it! From this limited point of view, I concluded that the dance was marvelous
in the opening (made by Juan Luis and Karen) and not very interesting in the
"Mexican Ola-like - but with shouting" (Ola meaning wave) in the
beginning of the second day, and one could hear some of the interventions in
the evening news.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">One
conclusion that I took is that people present in the event must be informed
that the streaming is being done and that to be heard far from the location
they must speak<b> with the mouth close to the micro</b> (and don't use
bells near the micro...).<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">But
a more general conclusions that I took is that if one plans to do a "Worldwide
OSonOS" (and not only a "regional WOSonOS with some people from
other regions" - a bunch from the USA, one from Asia and no one from Europe, if
I understood well), <b>close attention must be putted in the way to facilitate worldwide
dissemination and even participation</b>.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">Please
don't see my remarks and suggestions bellow as any criticism to the Chilean
Host team, which is making a very good job, as I can understand from Suzanne's
messages, but as suggestions for the London Host Team and for other future
WOSonOS organizers.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">First:
WOSonOS must not be considered in the future only as a gathering of the people
that are able to come to the event location, but as an event that takes place worldwide,
based on a specific location, but not restricted to it. The new IT
possibilities must be fully used to assure worldwide participation. <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">Second: there
must be used a fixed camera and a mobile one, and have someone monitoring what
the world is seeing and hearing (or not) at every time. Having conversation in
front of the camera must not be done.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">Third:
Reports of break out session must be made directly in a wiki, with instructions
to the viewers that they can't edit, but they can add comments to the
discussion (as it was done when the WOSonOS took place in Denmark some years ago). This can
easily be done from free wiki site providers.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">Fourth:
a reporter must be assigned to make written and/or graphic reports to be
displayed daily in the same wiki, or in a linked blog – with photos and videos
(from the streaming) also available for the ones that can´t connect synchronously.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">Due
to the special characteristics of the UK group that is inviting the 2012
WOSonOS, I think that all this suggestions will be easily done by them - if
they accept the concept...<o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">With
care, <o:p></o:p></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:
normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT"><o:p> </o:p></span></div>
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normal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";
color:black;background:white;mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:PT">Artur <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div id="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_131926972676148" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; "><br></div><div id="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_131926972676148" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; "><span id="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761194"> </span></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; "><br id="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_131926972676151"></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; " id="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_131926972676154" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_131926972676152"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; " class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_131926972676157"><font size="2" face="Arial"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> JL Walker <<a href="mailto:jlwalker@terra.cl">jlwalker@terra.cl</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> 'World wide
Open Space Technology email list' <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 21, 2011 5:15 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [OSList] Happy wosonos<br></font><br>
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--></style><div><div class="yiv1515886835WordSection1"><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761111">Dear friends,</span></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761113">Thank you very much for all your messages and expressions of support and good wishes. For here I am very happy and I feel the inspiration, excitement and joy of all the 38 participants. I'll have time in the coming days to tell the experience in more detail. </span></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761115">Besos & Abrazos,</span></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761117">Juan Luis</span></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761119"> </span></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><b><span lang="ES" style="font-size:10.0pt;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761121">De:</span></b><span lang="ES" style="font-size:10.0pt;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761123"> <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] <b>En nombre de </b>Harrison Owen<br><b>Enviado el:</b> viernes, 21 de octubre de 2011 11:27<br><b>Para:</b> 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'<br><b>Asunto:</b> Re: [OSList] Happy wosonos</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal">
</div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761125">Arno – thanks for posting the link. I am in Chile, enjoying all the fun, and it is nice to know that the spirit has reached to Talin!</span></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761127"> </span></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761129">Harrison</span></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761131"> </span></div><div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761133">Harrison Owen</span><span style="color:navy;"></span></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761137">189 Beaucaire Ave<span style="color:navy;"></span></span></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761141">Camden, ME 04843</span><span style="color:navy;"></span></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761145">207-763-3261 (Summer)</span><span style="color:navy;"></span></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761149">301-365-2093 (Winter)</span><span style="color:navy;"></span></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761153">Website <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.openspaceworld.com"><a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a></a> </span><span style="color:navy;"></span></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761157">Personal Website <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.ho-image.com"><a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a></a> </span><span style="color:navy;"></span></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761161">OSLIST </span><span style="color:navy;">To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761165"><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html" title="http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761167">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</span></a></span><span style="color:navy;"></span></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;"> </span></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><span style="color:navy;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761177">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;" class="yiv1515886835yui_3_2_0_16_1319269726761179"> <a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a> [mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Arno Baltin<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 21, 2011 5:38 AM<br><b>To:</b>
<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org"><a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a></a><br><b>Subject:</b> [OSList] Happy wosonos</span></div></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"> </div><div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal">Dear All,</div><div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal">Happy WOSONOS in Chile!</div></div><div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal">The Ustream <a href="http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wosonos-chile-2011"><a href="http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wosonos-chile-2011">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wosonos-chile-2011</a></a></div></div><div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal">makes the Spiritus loci almost tangible.</div></div><div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal">Be well,</div></div><div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"> </div></div><div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal">Arno<br clear="all"></div><div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal">Tallinn, Estonia</div></div></div></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"><br><br clear="all"></div><div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal"> </div></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;"><hr size="1" width="100%" noshade="" style="color:#A0A0A0;" align="center"></div><div class="yiv1515886835MsoNormal" style="">Se certificó que el correo no contiene virus.<br>Comprobada por AVG - <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.avg.es"><a href="http://www.avg.es">www.avg.es</a></a><br>Versión: 2012.0.1831 / Base de datos de virus: 2092/4563 - Fecha de la versión: 20/10/2011</div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>OSList mailing list<br>To post send emails to <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org"><a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></a><br>To unsubscribe send an email to <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org"><a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></a><br>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:<br><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a><br><br><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>OSList mailing list</span><br><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org"><a href="mailto:OSList@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList@lists.openspacetech.org</a></a></span><br><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org"><a href="mailto:OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave@lists.openspacetech.org</a></a></span><br><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>