Why is a grid sometimes useful?

[Suzanne Daigle]

The gem for me was this: The issue is not “organization” – but who does it
and when does it happen? I get it...I hope, I think.  It means then that the
ownership is where it should be: with the group from A to Z and they lead
the dance of chaos and organization.

Thank you for this topic on the grid which already has caused me grief and
self-doubt when I facilitated. What I learn from this is that it won't
matter exactly how I do the grid as long as I am mindful about what my true
role is as a facilitator: to assist in the convening, to open the space,
hold the space, (be invisible) and then close the space. It's so hard to
trust the process sometimes when you're still internalizing it yourself,
feeling the angst in a room and honoring what is.

Suzanne

Suzanne Daigle
www.nufocusgroup.com
s.daigle at nufocusgroup.com


On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:

>  Artur – we will be looking forward to your return! And an odd thought
> passed through my muddled mind. It occurred to me, I think because you
> mentioned being an engineer that it might somehow appear that “getting
> organized”  and “being organized” are somehow anathema to Open Space. It
> might even seem that I have implied as much – if so that would be a massive
> mistake on my part. The issue is not “organization” – but who does it and
> when does it happen? The truth of the matter is that every Open Space is
> highly organized, usually more so than any facilitator or planning committee
> could ever imagine.
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> Consider 2108 German psychiatrists X 236 concurrent sessions in an 8 hour
> period. That would take a planning committee years! And they would never get
> it right -- things would always be late, and great frustration would be a
> predictable outcome. In the instance, the people did it all themselves in
> something less than an hour and it all worked out perfectly including
> written reports for all or most of the sessions. Now Mr Engineer, Can you
> beat that? Just kidding J
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> For me the real issue is efficiency and effectiveness – which are
> presumably positive values that all engineers will ascribe to. In that case
> the only question is how do you get there fastest and bestest? The curious
> answer would seem to be Do Less!
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> *From:* OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] *On Behalf Of *Artur
> Silva
> *Sent:* Friday, August 07, 2009 6:57 AM
> *To:* OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> *Subject:* Re: Why is a grid sometimes useful?
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> Being out of my office with bad internet contact and short of time, I only
> red some of this rich exchange.
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> I must say, like Bernd, that, probably because of my education as an
> engineer, I never thought about doing it without a grid. And living in a
> Chatolic country, even with a grid, most managers think that OST is too much
> for them...
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> But then some coments from Harrison and Lisa make me think...
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> I will continue to think, and after the 18th, with better conexion, I will
> coment something.
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> But don´t ask me what ;-)
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> Regards from the countryside somewhere in the north of Portugal
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> Artur
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> --- On *Thu, 8/6/09, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>* wrote:
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> From: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Why is a grid sometimes useful?
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 5:17 AM
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> Lesley, I think you got it! (“It is my sense of things that the more we
> order….the more we take away from the process……..however this can be very
> uncomfortable for us(facilitator”). It is all about organizing a self
> organizing system. Not only is that an oxymoron, but also of questionable
> intelligence – regardless of the alleged increase of comfort.
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> Harrison
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Suzanne Daigle
NuFocus Strategic Group
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University Park, FL 34201
FL 941-359-8877;  CT 203-722-2009
www.nufocusgroup.com
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