Why is a grid sometimes useful?

[Michael M Pannwitz]

I just love: Good, better, best, bestest!
mmp

Harrison Owen wrote:
> Artur – we will be looking forward to your return! And an odd thought passed
> through my muddled mind. It occurred to me, I think because you mentioned
> being an engineer that it might somehow appear that “getting organized”  and
> “being organized” are somehow anathema to Open Space. It might even seem
> that I have implied as much – if so that would be a massive mistake on my
> part. The issue is not “organization” – but who does it and when does it
> happen? The truth of the matter is that every Open Space is highly
> organized, usually more so than any facilitator or planning committee could
> ever imagine. 
> 
>  
> 
> Consider 2108 German psychiatrists X 236 concurrent sessions in an 8 hour
> period. That would take a planning committee years! And they would never get
> it right -- things would always be late, and great frustration would be a
> predictable outcome. In the instance, the people did it all themselves in
> something less than an hour and it all worked out perfectly including
> written reports for all or most of the sessions. Now Mr Engineer, Can you
> beat that? Just kidding :-)
> 
>  
> 
> For me the real issue is efficiency and effectiveness – which are presumably
> positive values that all engineers will ascribe to. In that case the only
> question is how do you get there fastest and bestest? The curious answer
> would seem to be Do Less!
> 
>  
> 
> Harrison
> 
>  
> 
> Harrison Owen
> 
> 189 Beaucaire Ave
> 
> Camden, ME 04843
> 
> 207-763-3261 (Summer)
> 
> 301-365-2093 (Winter)
> 
> Website www.openspaceworld.com
> 
> Personal Website www.ho-image.com 
> 
> OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options
> <http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html>
> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Artur
> Silva
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 6:57 AM
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject: Re: Why is a grid sometimes useful?
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Being out of my office with bad internet contact and short of time, I only
> red some of this rich exchange.
> 
>  
> 
> I must say, like Bernd, that, probably because of my education as an
> engineer, I never thought about doing it without a grid. And living in a
> Chatolic country, even with a grid, most managers think that OST is too much
> for them... 
> 
>  
> 
> But then some coments from Harrison and Lisa make me think...
> 
>  
> 
> I will continue to think, and after the 18th, with better conexion, I will
> coment something.
> 
>  
> 
> But don´t ask me what ;-)
> 
>  
> 
> Regards from the countryside somewhere in the north of Portugal
> 
>  
> 
> Artur
> 
>  
> 
> -----------
> 
>  
> 
> --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Why is a grid sometimes useful?
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 5:17 AM
> 
> Lesley, I think you got it! (“It is my sense of things that the more we
> order….the more we take away from the process……..however this can be very
> uncomfortable for us(facilitator”). It is all about organizing a self
> organizing system. Not only is that an oxymoron, but also of questionable
> intelligence – regardless of the alleged increase of comfort.
> 
>  
> 
> Harrison 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> * * ==========================================================
> OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU ------------------------------ To subscribe,
> unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about
> OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist 
> 
> 
> *
> *
> ==========================================================
> OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> ------------------------------
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,
> view the archives of oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
> 
> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:
> http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
> 

-- 
Michael M Pannwitz, boscop eg
Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
++49-30-772 8000
mmpanne at boscop.org
www.boscop.org


Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 443 resident Open 
Space Workers in 72 countries working in a total of 141 countries worldwide
Have a look:
www.openspaceworldmap.org

*
*
==========================================================
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
------------------------------
To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,
view the archives of oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html

To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:
http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist