Why is a grid sometimes useful?

[Harrison Owen]

Artur – we will be looking forward to your return! And an odd thought passed
through my muddled mind. It occurred to me, I think because you mentioned
being an engineer that it might somehow appear that “getting organized”  and
“being organized” are somehow anathema to Open Space. It might even seem
that I have implied as much – if so that would be a massive mistake on my
part. The issue is not “organization” – but who does it and when does it
happen? The truth of the matter is that every Open Space is highly
organized, usually more so than any facilitator or planning committee could
ever imagine. 

 

Consider 2108 German psychiatrists X 236 concurrent sessions in an 8 hour
period. That would take a planning committee years! And they would never get
it right -- things would always be late, and great frustration would be a
predictable outcome. In the instance, the people did it all themselves in
something less than an hour and it all worked out perfectly including
written reports for all or most of the sessions. Now Mr Engineer, Can you
beat that? Just kidding :-)

 

For me the real issue is efficiency and effectiveness – which are presumably
positive values that all engineers will ascribe to. In that case the only
question is how do you get there fastest and bestest? The curious answer
would seem to be Do Less!

 

Harrison

 

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Being out of my office with bad internet contact and short of time, I only
red some of this rich exchange.

 

I must say, like Bernd, that, probably because of my education as an
engineer, I never thought about doing it without a grid. And living in a
Chatolic country, even with a grid, most managers think that OST is too much
for them... 

 

But then some coments from Harrison and Lisa make me think...

 

I will continue to think, and after the 18th, with better conexion, I will
coment something.

 

But don´t ask me what ;-)

 

Regards from the countryside somewhere in the north of Portugal

 

Artur

 

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--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:


From: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Why is a grid sometimes useful?
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 5:17 AM

Lesley, I think you got it! (“It is my sense of things that the more we
order
.the more we take away from the process

..however this can be very
uncomfortable for us(facilitator”). It is all about organizing a self
organizing system. Not only is that an oxymoron, but also of questionable
intelligence – regardless of the alleged increase of comfort.

 

Harrison 

 

 

 


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