angry feedback

Tue Apr 10 07:07:54 PDT 2007

As I can remember this is not the first time Tree makes an harsh entry to 
other people. It always amazes me a little, because she is such a nice 
looking woman ;-)

Warmly from a warm viennese springday
Erich

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: TYASTO
  To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
  Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 4:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [OSLIST] angry feedback

  Dear Yana and Ukraininan team,

  take it easy. A decision making procedure in Moscow was a long one and 
everybody could say what they wanted and vote as they wished.
  I wish you a success and lots of energy!

  Warm regards,

  Marina Tyasto
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Yana Demenko [mailto:yana at demenko.info]
    Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:54 PM
    To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
    Subject: angry feedback

    Dear OS Community,

    WOSonOS hosting team have got a very interesting feedback from Tree 
Fitzpatrick.

    I'm not going to comment it but I feel responsibility to share this mail 
with all of you.

    Whatever happens is the only thing that could have ...

    Best regards,
    Yana Demenko

    [e-mail] yana at demenko.info
    [post] p.o.box 4B, Kyiv-1, 01001, Ukraine
    [web] www.demenko.info
    [skype] yana_demenko

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      From: Tree Fitzpatrick [mailto:therese.fitzpatrick at gmail.com]
      Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:21 AM
      To: GURT Resource Centre for NGO Development
      Subject: Re: Invitation to 15th Worldwide Open Space on Open Space

      I have absolutely no interest in attending the OSonOS in Kiev this 
year.  I am writing to tell you why I am not interested. And I am writing to 
complain that you have sent me this invitation.  Where did you get my email? 
You did not have my permission to use it.

      I was disappointed that people at OSonOS in Moscow hijacked this 
important international gathering of OS practitioners from around the world 
and insisted on taking the event to Kiev this year.  The OSonOS gathering 
belongs to practitioners around the world and it has norms and traditions 
that you folks refused to honor when you decided to 'steal' the event to 
Kiev this year.  A key tradition of OSonOS International has been to move 
around the world.

      I understand that one of your organizers was very aggressive in 
Moscow, insisting on forcing OSonOS to Kiev. This makes me angry and under 
no circumstances would I attend an event that was demanded like this:  I 
feel like coming would be tantamount to giving in to a child after he had a 
tantrum.  You folks in Kiev were free to steal the event. . . but you could 
never win my support of it.

      And, parenthetically, as it happens, Raffi did something similar at 
Halifax OSonOS in 2005.  The group was leaning towards having OSonOS 2006 in 
Scotland and Raffi stood up and said "I don't care what you people want, 
there is going to be an international OSonOS in Moscow this year" and the 
Halifax group gave in to Raffi.  I mention this because now I am wondering 
if the Slavic world is littered with bullies who think that imposing their 
will on people is good collaboration?

      I also wonder if whoever that guy was, it was someone from Kiev who 
was in Moscow at last year's conference, really gives a shit about the rest 
of the world of OS practitioners.  I wonder if this guy realizes that senior 
OS practitioners all over the world have heard about this behavior.

      I venture to guess that you are going to have a very low turnout at 
this event.  I suspect lots of people feel the way I do, that the conference 
was birthed in an atmosphere of coersion, which is NOT open space at all, is 
it?

      Please don't send me any more emails.  I have reported you to my email 
provider as spam.

      -- 
      Love rays,
      Tree Fitzpatrick

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