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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080 size=2>As I can remember this is not the
first time Tree makes an harsh entry to other people. It always amazes me a
little, because she is such a nice looking woman ;-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080 size=2>Warmly from a warm viennese
springday</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080 size=2>Erich</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#800080 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=tyasto@sapa.nsk.su href="mailto:tyasto@sapa.nsk.su">TYASTO</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
href="mailto:OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU">OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 10, 2007 4:50
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OSLIST] angry
feedback</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=171003908-10042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Dear
Yana and Ukraininan team,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=171003908-10042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=171003908-10042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>take
it easy. A decision making procedure in Moscow was a long one and everybody
could say what they wanted and vote as they wished. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=171003908-10042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
wish you a success and lots of energy!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=171003908-10042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=171003908-10042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Warm
regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=171003908-10042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=171003908-10042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Marina Tyasto</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Yana Demenko
[mailto:yana@demenko.info]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:54
PM<BR><B>To:</B> OSLIST@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> angry
feedback<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Dear OS Community, </DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>WOSonOS hosting team have got a very interesting feedback from Tree
Fitzpatrick. </DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>I'm not going to comment it but I feel responsibility to
share this mail with all of you. </DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>Whatever happens is the only thing that could have ... </DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>Best regards, </DIV>
<DIV>Yana Demenko </DIV>
<DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>
<DIV>[e-mail] <A href="mailto:yana@demenko.info">yana@demenko.info</A></DIV>
<DIV>[post] p.o.box 4B, Kyiv-1, 01001, Ukraine </DIV>
<DIV>[web] <A
href="http://www.demenko.info">www.demenko.info</A> </DIV>
<DIV>[skype] yana_demenko </DIV>
<DIV><BR>
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class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Tree Fitzpatrick [<A
href="mailto:therese.fitzpatrick@gmail.com">mailto:therese.fitzpatrick@gmail.com</A>]
</SPAN><BR style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><B
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Sent:</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:21 AM</SPAN><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><B
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">To:</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> GURT
Resource Centre for NGO Development</SPAN><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><B
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Subject:</SPAN></SPAN></B><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Re:
Invitation to 15th Worldwide Open Space on Open
Space</SPAN></SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US><O:P
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"></O:P></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><O:P
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"></SPAN></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">I have absolutely no
interest in attending the OSonOS in Kiev this year. I am writing to
tell you why I am not interested. And I am writing to complain that you
have sent me this invitation. Where did you get my email? You
did not have my permission to use it.</SPAN><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">I was disappointed
that people at OSonOS in Moscow hijacked this important international
gathering of OS practitioners from around the world and insisted on taking
the event to Kiev this year. The OSonOS gathering belongs to
practitioners around the world and it has norms and traditions that you
folks refused to honor when you decided to 'steal' the event to Kiev this
year. A key tradition of OSonOS International has been to move
around the world.</SPAN><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">I understand that
one of your organizers was very aggressive in Moscow, insisting on forcing
OSonOS to Kiev. This makes me angry and under no circumstances would I
attend an event that was demanded like this: I feel like coming
would be tantamount to giving in to a child after he had a tantrum.
You folks in Kiev were free to steal the event. . . but you could never
win my support of it.</SPAN><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">And,
parenthetically, as it happens, Raffi did something similar at Halifax
OSonOS in 2005. The group was leaning towards having OSonOS 2006 in
Scotland and Raffi stood up and said "I don't care what you people want,
there is going to be an international OSonOS in Moscow this year" and the
Halifax group gave in to Raffi. I mention this because now I am
wondering if the Slavic world is littered with bullies who think that
imposing their will on people is good collaboration? </SPAN><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">I also wonder if
whoever that guy was, it was someone from Kiev who was in Moscow at last
year's conference, really gives a shit about the rest of the world of OS
practitioners. I wonder if this guy realizes that senior OS
practitioners all over the world have heard about this behavior.</SPAN><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">I venture to guess
that you are going to have a very low turnout at this event. I
suspect lots of people feel the way I do, that the conference was birthed
in an atmosphere of coersion, which is NOT open space at all, is
it?</SPAN><BR style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">Please don't send me
any more emails. I have reported you to my email provider as
spam.</SPAN><O:P
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">-- </SPAN><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">Love rays,</SPAN><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">Tree
Fitzpatrick</SPAN><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><A
href="http://thecultureoflove.blogspot.com/"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; COLOR: rgb(0,0,255); FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman; khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: underline">http://thecultureoflove.blogspot.com/</SPAN></A><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman">. . . the great and
incalculable grace of love, which says, with Augustine, "I want you to
be," without being able to give any particular reason for such supreme and
unsurpassable affirmation. -- Hannah Arendt</SPAN><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><BR
style="FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman"><SPAN
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