On self-organizing

[Funda Oral]

On self-organizingHarrison-i am happily reading all answers, thank you.

OK i agree there must be an end....but still "how it will end" is important...elegant or not elegant?        
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  Funda - I would believe that answer to your question (do they have to sustain or survive???.......) is no. Fact of the matter is that all Living Systems have a beginning, middle and end. We love the beginning, tolerate the middle, and don't want to talk about the end. And that leads to all sorts of interesting mental gymnastics. Here in the US, very few people actually ever die, at least that would seem to be the case if you listen to how people talk. It is said - So and so  "passed on," "took the big trip," "Passed to the other side" - But it seems that nobody ever dies. The same is true when we talk about organizations. Somehow they are supposed to live for ever, and when the end comes that is automatically taken as failure. 



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  all systems are self organizing but not all systems are living (sustaining)



  i don't know 



  Funda

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    From: Ralph Copleman 

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    My vote goes to:

    All systems are self-organizing, and...

    There is no such thing as a non-living system.


    Ralph Copleman

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