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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>Harrison-i am happily reading
all answers, thank you.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#000080 size=2>OK i agree there must be an
end....but still "how it will end" is important...elegant or not
elegant? </FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=red size=3><SPAN
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believe that answer to your question</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> (do they have to
sustain or survive???.......) </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=red><SPAN
style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">is no. Fact of the matter is that all
Living Systems have a beginning, middle and end. We love the beginning,
tolerate the middle, and don’t want to talk about the end. And that leads to
all sorts of interesting mental gymnastics. Here in the </SPAN></FONT><FONT
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style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">US</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=red><SPAN style="COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">, very few people
actually ever die, at least that would seem to be the case if you listen to
how people talk. It is said – So and so “passed on,” “took the big
trip,” “Passed to the other side” – But it seems that nobody ever dies. The
same is true when we talk about organizations. Somehow they are supposed to
live for ever, and when the end comes that is automatically taken as failure.
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">all systems are self organizing
but not all systems are living (sustaining)</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=rcopleman@comcast.net href="mailto:rcopleman@comcast.net">Ralph
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systems are self-organizing, and...<BR><BR>There is no such thing as a
non-living system.<BR><BR><BR>Ralph Copleman<BR><BR>--
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