[OSList] Where angels fear to tread
Jeff Aitken
r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com
Fri Nov 19 11:33:42 PST 2021
PS Chris - love what you shared. Already thinking of design ideas for that
badge...
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021, 10:52 AM Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com> wrote:
> To come back around to Nora for a moment: She is exploring how a fresh new
> hypothesis gets created, one which can be a better fit to a complex
> situation in a time of crisis.
>
> Foundational to a new hypothesis is "the realm of unseen contributors
> coalescing to produce the foundations of hypothesis."
>
> She finds that by intentionally placing different contexts of life side by
> side in new configurations - literally doing so in the design of warm data
> labs - the tender shoots of new hypothesis formation are nurtured.
>
> My question: Is this a restatement of the notion that "U shaped" processes
> like Bohm dialogue or Open Space can foster conversation that deepens us
> beneath our long held assumptions, to explore fresh assumptions? (What some
> have called transformative learning, and what HHO originally called
> "crossing the open space"?)
>
> Or is Nora getting at something new and different?
>
> Nora and colleagues might or might not be versed in the theory and
> practice of what Peggy documented in The Change Handbook, with 18 and then
> 60+ different processes.
>
> We have kinda danced around this question, and I want to ask it more
> directly.
>
> Warmly
>
> Jeff
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> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021, 9:36 AM Chris Corrigan via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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>> I think I have come to learn that all the work of an Open Space meeting
>> happens in the invitation, and the more personal and intentional the
>> better. Recently I had a client work for two months to get 20 very
>> powerful people in a room to talk about a major issue in the education
>> system, and the Open Space was only six hours, and my work was really only
>> 20 minutes of active facilitation. That to me is a mark of great
>> participation and a high chance for sustainability of the results. Hoping
>> one day I can coach a client in invitation so well that they don;t even
>> need a big face to face meeting, or at the very least, they don't need me
>> there. At that point I will call it "Achieving a Harrison" and award
>> myself a badge. And then go and take a nap.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 12:15 AM Thomas Herrmann via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I love this way of clarifying how you can look for inviting the whole
>>> system, Peggy! Thanks for sharing! I will make sure I incorporate it in my
>>> practice as I think it helps the thinking about how to spread “the
>>> irresistible invitation”. And I also agree its great to involve as many of
>>> these stakeholders early in the process, especially as there is often a low
>>> level of trust between them.
>>>
>>> Usually I invite my sponsors quite clearly to not jump up and raise
>>> their topics but wait and see what happens, I assure them that I will be
>>> very clear to give space for everyone and not closing the agenda creation
>>> without very clear last opportunities – so they can rest assured that all
>>> of their important topics can be posted. So if they miss anything at the
>>> end, they can add. I agree with others, they are mostly surprised by the
>>> richness of the agenda created by participants.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> One piece I have included in my designs the last years is to have a
>>> “sync-meeting” some time the last week before the OST, to give them an
>>> opportunity to share their hopes and fears for the upcoming OST and clarify
>>> any practicalities they may be wondering about. This is much appreciated
>>> and givs them more of a feeling of safety and it increases their curiosity,
>>> openness and peace 😊.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With appreciation for all of the wisdom in this circle
>>>
>>> Thomas Herrmann
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> *Kopia:* Peggy Holman <peggy at peggyholman.com>
>>> *Ämne:* Re: [OSList] Where angels fear to tread
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Like Michael, I have had the experience of leaders making a list behind
>>> the scenes and being surprised that participants not only posted everything
>>> on their list but also things that they hadn’t thought of that turned out
>>> to matter to them. And, of course, the experience of witnessing the
>>> passion, interest, and creativity of people often surprises everyone who is
>>> in an Open Space meeting for the first time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff, to your question about requisite variety of topics in an Open
>>> Space, I see that as a matter of being mindful about invitation. The
>>> biggest investment of preparation time for the Open Spaces I’m involved
>>> with are inviting, as Harrison would say, “the people who care.” Whomever
>>> I’m working with, I encourage them to do the work of thinking through,
>>> given their purpose, who makes up the system — who are the people who care?
>>> In many cases, that may include involving a microcosm in shaping the
>>> organizing question and invitation so that it resonates with the people of
>>> the system.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I take my cue on how to think about who makes up the system from Marv
>>> Weisbord and Sandra Janoff’s rubric of inviting the people who “ARE IN” —
>>> with *A*uthority, *R*esources, *E*xpertise, *I*nformation, and * N*eed.
>>> I also suggest an overlay for considering demographic diversity. For
>>> thinking about that, I draw from the Maynard Institute’s “Fault lines” -
>>> race, class, gender, geography, and generation and two “fissures” -
>>> politics and religion. Not all dimensions apply to every situation but
>>> bringing them up enables the people planning the Open Space to make a
>>> conscious choice about whom they invite and how.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a long-winded way of saying that my experience is that by doing
>>> the work to invite a requisite variety of people, a requisite variety of
>>> topics will show up. And then, to the principle of whoever comes is the
>>> right people, I let go of worrying about it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Birgitt — to words and embodied experience, yes you are saying what I
>>> meant: *it is not the words used that are most likely to help, rather
>>> the embodied experience*. For example, describing the experience of
>>> Open Space and what it produces can be enough for some. For most of us,
>>> hearing a description or even seeing a video doesn’t come close to being
>>> there. It is a multi-dimensional experience that involves, head, heart,
>>> body, spirit. Rarely does this come across in a description. A story might
>>> communicate more of it. But I’m guessing most people discover some aspect
>>> they hadn’t expected from just reading, hearing, or watching a video about
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Appreciatively,
>>>
>>> Peggy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> Peggy Holman
>>> Co-founder
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>>> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2021, at 1:52 PM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <
>>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Birgitt,
>>>
>>> your two sentences:
>>>
>>> "My perspective: following the principles of OST, spirit shows up in the
>>> moment, inspiring people to post exactly the topics that need to be posted
>>> at that moment in time. This dynamic is altered when relying on anyone to
>>> pre-post topics, or to set meta-topics, catering to limitation rather than
>>> abundance of possibilities."
>>>
>>> had some memories come up.
>>>
>>> In at least three of the ost events I was involved in it turned out that
>>> the sponsors prepared a set of "issuse" they felt should be part of the
>>> event before the event... in case nobody would post them.
>>> To the surprises of the sponsors all their issues were posted by the
>>> participants.
>>> In addition, they themselves experienced that other issues entered their
>>> mind during the process that they then posted.
>>> In many other ost events sponors were very surprised about the broad
>>> passion, interest, creativity, etc. and most of all selforganisation that
>>> manifested...
>>>
>>> For what actually happens when ost is part of the everyday life of an
>>> organisation over a number of years with a special focus on the vast system
>>> of that enterprise have a look here
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Practicing-Open-Space-Our-First-Ten-Years-E-Book
>>>
>>>
>>> in English, French, Polish, Spanish and Chinese ... translated from the
>>> German Original by ost-colleagues all of you know
>>>
>>> Cheers from Berlin
>>> mmp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 17.11.2021 um 21:32 schrieb Birgitt Williams via OSList:
>>>
>>> Jeff...thanks for sharing the article and for the discussion that
>>> emanated from the question you posed to the OS list. I have enjoyed the
>>> responses and look forward to more conversation showing up. You have added
>>> more great questions.
>>> You asked:Do we assume that the passion and responsibility of a gathered
>>> group will create the requisite variety of topics/contexts to generate
>>> excellent Warm Data from a theme question, and foster these unseen
>>> transcontextual sources of systems changing creativity?
>>> Or does the sponsor need to think up and post the outlying
>>> topics/contexts to invite that fruitful variety?
>>> What are the upsides and downsides of having a passionate advocate post
>>> and host each topic of conversation? What topics don't get posted, and does
>>> that limit the potential and health of the system?
>>> My perspective: following the principles of OST, spirit shows up in the
>>> moment, inspiring people to post exactly the topics that need to be posted
>>> at that moment in time. This dynamic is altered when relying on anyone to
>>> pre-post topics, or to set meta-topics, catering to limitation rather than
>>> abundance of possibilities.
>>> Peggy...I am intrigued by your sentences "Sometimes more and different
>>> words can help. More often, it takes an embodied experience." I would like
>>> to understand more. My current understanding is that it is not the words
>>> used that are most likely to help, rather the embodied experience. Is this
>>> what you mean?
>>> in genuine contact,
>>> Birgitt
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>>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:31 AM Jeff Aitken via OSList <
>>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>> wrote:
>>> Now I am considering whether there is a (hopefully) funny joke
>>> lurking here somewhere.
>>> The facilitator asked the sponsor, "do you want a book of
>>> proceedings created from your event?" And the sponsor said "no, I'm
>>> going for the aphanipoesis, but thanks."
>>> But seriously folks, do we assume that the passion and
>>> responsibility of a gathered group will create the requisite variety
>>> of topics/contexts to generate excellent Warm Data from a theme
>>> question, and foster these unseen transcontextual sources of systems
>>> changing creativity?
>>> Or does the sponsor need to think up and post the outlying
>>> topics/contexts to invite that fruitful variety?
>>> What are the upsides and downsides of having a passionate advocate
>>> post and host each topic of conversation? What topics don't get
>>> posted, and does that limit the potential and health of the system?
>>> What can the OST methodology teach the WDL methodology, and vice
>>> versa?
>>> Early morning questions,
>>> Jeff
>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 5:45 PM Peggy Holman via OSList
>>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>> wrote:
>>> From what I can glean in Bateson’s article and what I have
>>> heard about Warm Data, what happens does sound parallel to what
>>> occurs when people meet in Open Space.
>>> I find her writing frustrating. But when one is attempting to
>>> give language to new ideas, it’s rough. The effort falls into a
>>> pattern she discusses: our tendency to want to relate to the
>>> ideas through habitual lenses. Sometimes more and different
>>> words can help. More often, it takes an embodied experience.
>>> Perhaps a Warm Data Lab?
>>> I find her insight that we need a word for life coalescing
>>> towards vitality in unseen ways intriguing. By naming it, I hope
>>> it will become more seen. Sounds like something we want to
>>> notice and grow.
>>> Thanks for sending the article Jeff.
>>> ________________________________
>>> Peggy Holman
>>> Co-founder
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>>> Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval
>>> into Opportunity <http://www.engagingemergence.com>
>>>
>>> On Nov 16, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Chris Corrigan via OSList
>>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing this Jeff. I have known about Nora's work
>>> for sometime and although I don't fully understand it yet I
>>> think what I do know of it, it's great.).
>>>
>>> WHy does she choose the words she chooses? I think because
>>> this is how she has come to an understanding about the simple
>>> truths that Warm Data works with. God know we have some pretty
>>> funny language amongst us all to explain things like "let
>>> people look after things they care about." But, Jeff, the
>>> first piece you posted of hers makes a lot of sense to me and
>>> is a concise description of Warm Data process, and is very
>>> helpful to me having an "aha" about it.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 1:37 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList
>>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Also I note that Nora is still very early in the practice
>>> of a methodology that she invented (I think.)
>>>
>>> Maybe it's like the first five-ten years of OST as folks
>>> were figuring out what the hell this is all about... : )
>>>
>>> And from the lens of an artist and family therapy
>>> researcher whose father was Gregory Bateson. That makes
>>> sense to me...
>>>
>>> Warmly
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 1:21 PM Jeff Aitken
>>> <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com <mailto:r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com
>>> <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Birgitt. My first guess is that it serves
>>> practitioners to be simple, while it serves systems
>>> scientists to be complicated or complex.
>>>
>>> They are writing about living systems at all scales
>>> and making very subtle distinctions.
>>>
>>> It may serve us practitioners to have some
>>> appreciation for the latter. "Your mileage may vary"
>>> tho, as a friend says!
>>>
>>> Warmly
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 1:10 PM Birgitt Williams
>>> <birgittwilliams at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:birgittwilliams at gmail.com
>>> <birgittwilliams at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jeff..I don't understand why it serves to be so
>>> complicated? Why not simply refer to seen and unseen?
>>>
>>> Birgitt
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021, 3:57 PM Jeff Aitken via
>>> OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> One more email - I was amiss to mention this
>>> new theory by Nora, without defining the word
>>> she is introducing, and she finds occurring in
>>> Warm Data Lab and I think is true in OST too.
>>>
>>> It is "a way to describe a life giving
>>> process, by which vitality, healing, and
>>> creativity come into being by the coalescence
>>> of multiple unseen factors."
>>>
>>> "Aphanipoiesis combines two words from ancient
>>> Greek to describe this way in which life
>>> coalesces toward vitality in unseen ways.
>>> (Aphanis comes from a Greek root meaning
>>> obscured, unseen, unnoticed; poiesis is from
>>> one meaning to bring forth, to make.)"
>>>
>>> Yes it's an academic term, and is presented at
>>> a systems science conference and in a journal
>>> article.
>>>
>>> Useful for practitioners to think about and to
>>> notice in our work? That's my question for the
>>> oslist.
>>>
>>> It reminds me of Harrison's definition of
>>> "peace" in The Practice of Peace. With an
>>> emphasis on the unseen, internal, very subtle
>>> shifts that take place that are NOT reflected
>>> in proceedings and action plans.
>>>
>>> Warmly, Jeff.
>>>
>>> Reference:
>>>
>>> Bateson, N.,(2021). Aphanipoiesis. In Journal
>>> of the International Society for the Systems
>>> Sciences, Proceedings of the 64th Annual
>>> Meeting of the ISSS, Virtual (Vol. 1, №1) —
>>> under review.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This work was presented at the Annual
>>> Biosemiotics Conference June 2021, the Annual
>>> Conference of the International Society of
>>> Systems Sciences July 2021, and the Annual
>>> conference of the Institute of General
>>> Semantics September 2021.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021, 11:16 PM Jeff Aitken
>>> <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com
>>> <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> As a refresher or quick intro to the
>>> process, Warm Data Lab starts with a group
>>> of folks and a theme question. But the
>>> topics of conversation are chosen in
>>> advance by sponsor and facilitator. Each
>>> breakout table (or area) gets a topic
>>> written on a sign: which names a context
>>> from which to address the theme question.
>>>
>>> So if the theme is drug abuse, the chosen
>>> wide variety of contexts might be:
>>> education, prisons, public health,
>>> initiation, addiction, pharmaceuticals,
>>> parenting, ceremony, etc. People go to the
>>> breakouts of their choice and stay or move
>>> as they wish. The law of mobility is used.
>>> A closing circle might end the event after
>>> some number of hours.
>>>
>>> It has some qualities of OST and World
>>> Cafe while being different.
>>>
>>> I've only been in one WDL so other folks
>>> might improve my description.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2021, 7:22 PM Jeff Aitken
>>> <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com
>>> <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Where does systemic change take place?
>>> I am reflecting on earlier posts about
>>> the Warm Data Lab and comparing -
>>> contrasting this work with other
>>> hosted conversation processes like OST.
>>>
>>> What seems different - please correct
>>> this if it's wrong - is the level of
>>> attention paid to the complex ways in
>>> which WDL might help bring about
>>> change. Looking well beyond action
>>> plans and carefully harvested
>>> proceedings etc.
>>>
>>> This may be a fruitful area of inquiry
>>> for OST folks. (The subject line here
>>> is from a reference in a book by Nora
>>> Bateson's late father Gregory.)
>>>
>>> Nora Bateson just shared a video and
>>> long essay, coming out prior to her
>>> essay being published soon in a
>>> journal. She is introducing a new term
>>> "aphanipoiesis" to the conversation of
>>> systemic transformation.
>>>
>>> The essay is here:
>>>
>>> https://norabateson.medium.com/aphanipoiesis-96d8aed927bc
>>> <
>>> https://norabateson.medium.com/aphanipoiesis-96d8aed927bc>
>>>
>>> Some teaser paragraphs for us. Can
>>> this also be said about OST, but we
>>> just don't??
>>>
>>> "Rewilding the Interior
>>>
>>>
>>> In the words of the Warm Data hosting
>>> theory, we tend the “about” so that
>>> what is re-configured is in the
>>> “within.” It does not really matter
>>> what people talk “about” in a Warm
>>> Data Lab. There is nothing to capture
>>> at that level. What matters is the way
>>> the participants are internally sewing
>>> together the different conversations
>>> and contexts. On a transcript this
>>> information is inaccessible.
>>>
>>> "In the Warm Data processes,
>>> communication in explicit form is not
>>> held to be the communication of
>>> interest. That level of conversation
>>> is there as a skeleton, onto which the
>>> stories not told reshape the person
>>> who did not tell them, the alterations
>>> in tone, the re-tilted perception is
>>> given free rein to rub memories and
>>> stories against each other. One
>>> comment that comes up repeatedly is,
>>> “Your story changed my story.” Through
>>> this “side-by-side-ing,” stories told
>>> change stories almost told, and their
>>> bearers are able to reshape their
>>> impressions in ways that are untamed.
>>> By careful tending of the “about” and
>>> “within,” the rich world of memory and
>>> story re-wilds.
>>>
>>>
>>> "The gaps are where the hope of
>>> systemic transformation is waiting. In
>>> the Warm Data processes, participants
>>> are given a structure to re-stitch, to
>>> re-wild, to begin a new abductive
>>> process into these gaps. Again, by
>>> placing the contexts of life
>>> side-by-side in new configurations,
>>> the aphanipoietic processes are given
>>> room, without conscious purpose or
>>> goals or defined outcomes, without
>>> scripts or roles or trends — to allow
>>> the tender new beginnings of another
>>> abductive description to form mutually.
>>>
>>> "Through this work, I have found I
>>> needed this term to embark on a deeper
>>> study of the importance of
>>> aphanipoiesis. The changes I witness
>>> occurring in the Warm Data processes
>>> are completely unpredictable and
>>> profound. They suggest ever more
>>> vividly that there is a real, if
>>> unseen, mingling of the body, culture,
>>> education, family — and a whole batch
>>> of transcontextual experience that is
>>> guiding all other actions. It is to
>>> this change that I have devoted my
>>> efforts toward systemic transformation."
>>>
>>> Warmly,
>>> Jeff
>>> Yelamu / San Francisco
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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