[OSList] This list serve is antiquated big time

Michael Herman michael at michaelherman.com
Fri Jan 29 11:44:39 PST 2021


before you run off, steve... have you seen openspaceworld.org/oslist?
anything there strike you as more important or useful than the rest, for
the purpose you've framed, video or otherwise?
m

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Michael Herman
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:32 AM Steve Holyer via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> Yep. This OSList works for me. Adding my thanks to the past moderators,
> the contributors, and Harold.
>
> And I’m glad the openness is in keeping with this community. I wouldn’t
> change it.
>
> And I was online back in the 80s and for sure then 90s when listservs were
> all the rage.
>
> i wonder if the retro look and feel and operation of a mailing list is
> something of a barrier to entry for folks who never participated in a
> listserv discussion—or who prefer a new fangled something or other? I
> wouldn’t change it, but could we find a welcoming (and open) way to invite
> more people? I don’t know what that is. Maybe just a youtube video on how
> to connect with the community via the mailing list. (Even having Harrison’s
> response on the history and openness of the list helps me connect to the
> list and not be put off by it. I appreciate it more after reading this
> thread, and I appreciate it before. So maybe just a way to to pin Harrisons
> words to the signup and archive page would be useful. I think just pinning
> a long threaded list of messages to include this whole thread wouldn’t
> really speak to the people who might be put off by long list of mails in a
> thread already :D — but a summary, or a video with some choice quotes could
> be helpful! ;)
>
> I’m not passionate enough about this issue to be the person to find an
> answer. (Or is it not responsible enough to stick around on this question.)
> Don’t want to put more load on Harold either.
>
> And I think this is a question worth asking at least, to see how it’s
> answered.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve
>
> On 29 Jan 2021, at 17:59, Tony Budak via OSList wrote:
>
> No Not antiquated. I could not agree more with Harrison. This is a very
> effective list serve. Thank you again, Harrison.
>
> Cheers,
> Tony
>
> On 1/29/2021 11:53 AM, Harrison Owen SR via OSList wrote:
> Oh Yes... OSLIST started as a phone operated bulletin board. And for sure
> it doesn't exist in 4 colors/touch screen. BUT it has probably existed as
> long or longer than any competitors, is searchable, carries the
> thinking/sweat/arguments of those who discovered living in Open Space (that
> would be 1000's) and Harold (the most recent curator) has done a marvelous
> job. Thanks. Could it be better? Sure... but it has worked for ?
> (20??)years! And please don't fix it if it ain't broke...
>
> ho
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:39 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org wrote:
> Michael,
>
> Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And I also know I could do better.
> Thank you as well for helping out with the admin work for the OSList.
>
> I couldn't see an easy way to see the count via the Archives. But looking
> at my own stash of the emails, I counted 42.9k messages since the first one
> in December of 1996 back in the old Boise State University LISTSERV (
> OSLIST at IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU) days.
>
> Harold
>
> On 1/28/21 4:48 PM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:
> Great job, and big thanks Harold. You’re the only reason the list still
> exists in this open, free, independent way.
>
> And just so everyone can notice the scale of the thing, how many messages
> have we posted here so far?
>
> Cuz it’s not just about updating or swapping email tools, folks. Harold
> has managed this so that we still have and can search every message ever
> sent through the list. Amazing!
>
> I know we passed 30000 some time ago but couldn’t guess what the total is
> now. I can’t figure where to look it up anymore. Do you have that number,
> Harold?
>
> Thanks, Michael
>
> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 08:40 Birgitt Williams via OSList
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org wrote:
> Thank you Harold,
> I love the simplicity that has been maintained for our email list, and the
> independence to the extent possible for us to be in a platform that
> supports us. Thank you for your work on this over many years, and also to
> those who preceded you.
>
> A super super simple way to pay attention to the list, and to follow
> threads really really easily is to use the GREAT feature of the archives
> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org. Every post
> gets placed in the archives, the archives are searchable. When something
> that is posted catches my attention, it is easy to go to the archives to
> see what I may have missed in the thread and also simultaneously by topic
> access what has been discussed in relation to the topic over the years.
>
> in genuine contact,
> Birgitt
>
> Picture
>
> Birgitt Williams
> Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants
> Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership
> development, and the power of nourishing a culture of leadership.
> www.dalarinternational.com
>
> --
> Harold Shinsato
> harold at shinsato.com
> https://shinsato.com
> twitter: @hajush
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> On 29 Jan 2021, at 18:27, info via OSList wrote:
>
> Hear hear.
> Love it!
> Tonnie
>
>
>
> Verzonden vanaf mijn Galaxy
>
>
> -------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------
> Van: Tony Budak via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Datum: 29-01-2021 17:59 (GMT+01:00)
> Aan: Harrison Owen SR via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Cc: Tony Budak <tonybudak at tbmw.org>
> Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] This list serve is antiquated big time
>
> No Not antiquated. I could not agree more with Harrison. This is a very
> effective list serve. Thank you again, Harrison.
>
> Cheers,
> Tony
> On 1/29/2021 11:53 AM, Harrison Owen SR via OSList wrote:
>
> Oh Yes... OSLIST started as a phone operated bulletin board. And for sure
> it doesn't exist in 4 colors/touch screen. BUT it has probably existed as
> long or longer than any competitors, is searchable, carries the
> thinking/sweat/arguments of those who discovered living in Open Space (that
> would be 1000's) and Harold (the most recent curator) has done a
> marvelous job. Thanks. Could it be better? Sure... but it has worked for ?
> (20??)years! And please don't fix it if it ain't broke...
>
> ho
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:39 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>>
>> Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And I also know I could do better.
>> Thank you as well for helping out with the admin work for the OSList.
>>
>> I couldn't see an easy way to see the count via the Archives. But looking
>> at my own stash of the emails, I counted 42.9k messages since the first one
>> in December of 1996 back in the old Boise State University LISTSERV (
>> OSLIST at IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU) days.
>>
>>     Harold
>>
>> On 1/28/21 4:48 PM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:
>>
>> Great job, and big thanks Harold. You’re the only reason the list still
>> exists in this open, free, independent way.
>>
>> And just so everyone can notice the scale of the thing, how many messages
>> have we posted here so far?
>>
>> Cuz it’s not just about updating or swapping email tools, folks. Harold
>> has managed this so that we still have and can search every message ever
>> sent through the list. Amazing!
>>
>> I know we passed 30000 some time ago but couldn’t guess what the total is
>> now.  I can’t figure where to look it up anymore. Do you have that number,
>> Harold?
>>
>> Thanks, Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 08:40 Birgitt Williams via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Harold,
>>> I love the simplicity that has been maintained for our email list, and
>>> the independence to the extent possible for us to be in a platform that
>>> supports us. Thank you for your work on this over many years, and also to
>>> those who preceded you.
>>>
>>> A super super simple way to pay attention to the list, and to follow
>>> threads really really easily is to use the GREAT feature of the archives
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org. Every post
>>> gets placed in the archives, the archives are searchable. When something
>>> that is posted catches my attention, it is easy to go to the archives to
>>> see what I may have missed in the thread and also simultaneously by topic
>>> access what has been discussed in relation to the topic over the years.
>>>
>>> in genuine contact,
>>> Birgitt
>>>
>>> [image: Picture]
>>>
>>>
>>> *Birgitt Williams*
>>> *Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants  *
>>> *Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership
>>> development, and the power of nourishing  a culture of leadership.*
>>> www.dalarinternational.com
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Harold Shinsato
>> harold at shinsato.com
>> https://shinsato.com
>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush>
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