[OSList] This list serve is antiquated big time

Steve Holyer coach at steveholyer.com
Fri Jan 29 10:32:19 PST 2021


Yep. This OSList works for me. Adding my thanks to the past moderators, 
the contributors, and Harold.

And I’m glad the openness is in keeping with this community. I 
wouldn’t change it.

And I was online back in the 80s and for sure then 90s when listservs 
were all the rage.

i wonder if the retro look and feel and operation of a mailing list is 
something of a barrier to entry for folks who never participated in a 
listserv discussion—or who prefer a new fangled something or other? I 
wouldn’t change it, but could we find a welcoming (and open) way to 
invite more people? I don’t know what that is. Maybe just a youtube 
video on how to connect with the community via the mailing list. (Even 
having Harrison’s response on the history and openness of the list 
helps me connect to the list  and not be put off by it. I appreciate it 
more after reading this thread, and I appreciate it before. So maybe 
just a way to to pin Harrisons words to the signup and archive page 
would be useful. I think just pinning a long threaded list of messages 
to include this whole thread wouldn’t really speak to the people who 
might be put off by long list of mails in a thread already :D — but a 
summary, or a video with some choice quotes could be helpful! ;)

I’m not passionate enough about this issue to be the person to find an 
answer. (Or is it not responsible enough to stick around on this 
question.) Don’t want to put more load on Harold either.

And I think this is a question worth asking at least, to see how it’s 
answered.

Cheers,
Steve

On 29 Jan 2021, at 17:59, Tony Budak via OSList wrote:

No Not antiquated. I could not agree more with Harrison. This is a very 
effective list serve. Thank you again, Harrison.

Cheers,
Tony

On 1/29/2021 11:53 AM, Harrison Owen SR via OSList wrote:
Oh Yes... OSLIST started as a phone operated bulletin board. And for 
sure it doesn't exist in 4 colors/touch screen. BUT it has probably 
existed as long or longer than any competitors, is searchable, carries 
the thinking/sweat/arguments of those who discovered living in Open 
Space (that would be 1000's) and Harold (the most recent curator) has 
done a marvelous job. Thanks. Could it be better? Sure... but it has 
worked for ? (20??)years! And please don't fix it if it ain't broke...

ho

On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:39 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList 
<oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
Michael,

Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And I also know I could do better. 
Thank you as well for helping out with the admin work for the OSList.

I couldn't see an easy way to see the count via the Archives. But 
looking at my own stash of the emails, I counted 42.9k messages since 
the first one in December of 1996 back in the old Boise State University 
LISTSERV (OSLIST at IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU) days.

     Harold

On 1/28/21 4:48 PM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:
Great job, and big thanks Harold. You’re the only reason the list 
still exists in this open, free, independent way.

And just so everyone can notice the scale of the thing, how many 
messages have we posted here so far?

Cuz it’s not just about updating or swapping email tools, folks. 
Harold has managed this so that we still have and can search every 
message ever sent through the list. Amazing!

I know we passed 30000 some time ago but couldn’t guess what the total 
is now.  I can’t figure where to look it up anymore. Do you have that 
number, Harold?

Thanks, Michael



On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 08:40 Birgitt Williams via OSList 
<oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
Thank you Harold,
I love the simplicity that has been maintained for our email list, and 
the independence to the extent possible for us to be in a platform that 
supports us. Thank you for your work on this over many years, and also 
to those who preceded you.

A super super simple way to pay attention to the list, and to follow 
threads really really easily is to use the GREAT feature of the archives 
http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org. Every post 
gets placed in the archives, the archives are searchable. When something 
that is posted catches my attention, it is easy to go to the archives to 
see what I may have missed in the thread and also simultaneously by 
topic access what has been discussed in relation to the topic over the 
years.

in genuine contact,
Birgitt

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On 29 Jan 2021, at 18:27, info via OSList wrote:

> Hear hear. Love it!TonnieVerzonden vanaf mijn Galaxy
> -------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------Van: Tony Budak via OSList 
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> Datum: 29-01-2021  17:59  (GMT+01:00) 
> Aan: Harrison Owen SR via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> Cc: 
> Tony Budak <tonybudak at tbmw.org> Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] This list 
> serve is antiquated big time
>     No Not antiquated. I could not agree more with Harrison. This is
>       a very effective list serve. Thank you again, Harrison.
>     Cheers,
>       Tony
>
>     On 1/29/2021 11:53 AM, Harrison Owen SR
>       via OSList wrote:
>
>
>
>       Oh Yes... OSLIST started as a phone operated
>         bulletin board. And for sure it doesn't exist in 4 
> colors/touch
>         screen. BUT it has probably existed as long or longer than any
>         competitors, is searchable, carries the 
> thinking/sweat/arguments
>         of those who discovered living in Open Space (that would be
>         1000's) and Harold (the most recent curator) has done a
>         marvelous job. Thanks. Could it be better? Sure... but it has
>         worked for ? (20??)years! And please don't fix it if it ain't
>         broke...
>
>
>         ho
>
>
>
>         On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:39
>           AM Harold Shinsato via OSList 
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>           wrote:
>
>
>            Michael,
>
>             Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And I also know I 
> could
>             do better. Thank you as well for helping out with the 
> admin
>             work for the OSList.
>
>             I couldn't see an easy way to see the count via the
>             Archives. But looking at my own stash of the emails, I
>             counted 42.9k messages since the first one in December of
>             1996 back in the old Boise State University LISTSERV 
> (OSLIST at IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU) days.
>
>                 Harold
>
>             On 1/28/21 4:48 PM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:
>
>
>               Great job, and big thanks Harold. You’re
>                 the only reason the list still exists in this open,
>                 free, independent way. 
>
>
>               And just so everyone can notice the scale
>                 of the thing, how many messages have we posted here so
>                 far?  
>
>
>               Cuz it’s not just about updating or
>                 swapping email tools, folks. Harold has managed this 
> so
>                 that we still have and can search every message ever
>                 sent through the list. Amazing!
>
>
>               I know we passed 30000 some time ago but
>                 couldn’t guess what the total is now.  I can’t 
> figure
>                 where to look it up anymore. Do you have that number,
>                 Harold?
>
>
>               Thanks, Michael 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                   On Thu, Jan 28, 2021
>                     at 08:40 Birgitt Williams via OSList 
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>                     wrote:
>
>
>
>                       Thank you
>                         Harold,
>                       I love
>                         the simplicity that has been maintained for 
> our
>                         email list, and the independence to the extent
>                         possible for us to be in a platform that
>                         supports us. Thank you for your work on this
>                         over many years, and also to those who 
> preceded
>                         you.
>
>
>                       A super
>                         super simple way to pay attention to the list,
>                         and to follow threads really really easily is 
> to
>                         use the GREAT feature of the 
> archives http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org.
>                         Every post gets placed in the archives, the
>                         archives are searchable. When something that 
> is
>                         posted catches my attention, it is easy to go 
> to
>                         the archives to see what I may have missed in
>                         the thread and also simultaneously by topic
>                         access what has been discussed in relation to
>                         the topic over the years. 
>
>
>                       in
>                         genuine contact,
>                       Birgitt
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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>
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>                                                 Birgitt
>                                                       Williams
>                                                 Senior
> consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants  
>                                                 Specialist
>                                                       in 
> organizational
>                                                       and systemic
>                                                       transformation,
>                                                       leadership
>                                                       development, and
>                                                       the power of
>                                                       nourishing  a
>                                                       culture of
>                                                       leadership.
>                                                 www.dalarinternational.com 
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>             --
>               Harold Shinsato
>               harold at shinsato.com
>               https://shinsato.com
>               twitter: @hajush
>
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>     --
>       Stay Safe & Well, Tony Budak
>
>       P.S.  All unpaid work sharing ideas, hosting events,
>
>         attending gatherings, providing services, accrues valuable
>         Learning Time Credits in the Time to Learn Network.


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