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<p dir="auto">Yep. This OSList works for me. Adding my thanks to the past moderators, the contributors, and Harold.</p>
<p dir="auto">And I’m glad the openness is in keeping with this community. I wouldn’t change it.</p>
<p dir="auto">And I was online back in the 80s and for sure then 90s when listservs were all the rage.</p>
<p dir="auto">i wonder if the retro look and feel and operation of a mailing list is something of a barrier to entry for folks who never participated in a listserv discussion—or who prefer a new fangled something or other? I wouldn’t change it, but could we find a welcoming (and open) way to invite more people? I don’t know what that is. Maybe just a youtube video on how to connect with the community via the mailing list. (Even having Harrison’s response on the history and openness of the list helps me connect to the list and not be put off by it. I appreciate it more after reading this thread, and I appreciate it before. So maybe just a way to to pin Harrisons words to the signup and archive page would be useful. I think just pinning a long threaded list of messages to include this whole thread wouldn’t really speak to the people who might be put off by long list of mails in a thread already :D — but a summary, or a video with some choice quotes could be helpful! ;)</p>
<p dir="auto">I’m not passionate enough about this issue to be the person to find an answer. (Or is it not responsible enough to stick around on this question.) Don’t want to put more load on Harold either.</p>
<p dir="auto">And I think this is a question worth asking at least, to see how it’s answered.</p>
<p dir="auto">Cheers,<br>
Steve</p>
<p dir="auto">On 29 Jan 2021, at 17:59, Tony Budak via OSList wrote:</p>
<p dir="auto">No Not antiquated. I could not agree more with Harrison. This is a very effective list serve. Thank you again, Harrison.</p>
<p dir="auto">Cheers,<br>
Tony</p>
<p dir="auto">On 1/29/2021 11:53 AM, Harrison Owen SR via OSList wrote:<br>
Oh Yes... OSLIST started as a phone operated bulletin board. And for sure it doesn't exist in 4 colors/touch screen. BUT it has probably existed as long or longer than any competitors, is searchable, carries the thinking/sweat/arguments of those who discovered living in Open Space (that would be 1000's) and Harold (the most recent curator) has done a marvelous job. Thanks. Could it be better? Sure... but it has worked for ? (20??)years! And please don't fix it if it ain't broke...</p>
<p dir="auto">ho</p>
<p dir="auto">On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 11:39 AM Harold Shinsato via OSList <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a> wrote:<br>
Michael,</p>
<p dir="auto">Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And I also know I could do better. Thank you as well for helping out with the admin work for the OSList.</p>
<p dir="auto">I couldn't see an easy way to see the count via the Archives. But looking at my own stash of the emails, I counted 42.9k messages since the first one in December of 1996 back in the old Boise State University LISTSERV (<a href="mailto:OSLIST@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU">OSLIST@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU</a>) days.</p>
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<p dir="auto">On 1/28/21 4:48 PM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:<br>
Great job, and big thanks Harold. You’re the only reason the list still exists in this open, free, independent way.</p>
<p dir="auto">And just so everyone can notice the scale of the thing, how many messages have we posted here so far?</p>
<p dir="auto">Cuz it’s not just about updating or swapping email tools, folks. Harold has managed this so that we still have and can search every message ever sent through the list. Amazing!</p>
<p dir="auto">I know we passed 30000 some time ago but couldn’t guess what the total is now. I can’t figure where to look it up anymore. Do you have that number, Harold?</p>
<p dir="auto">Thanks, Michael</p>
<p dir="auto">On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 08:40 Birgitt Williams via OSList <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a> wrote:<br>
Thank you Harold,<br>
I love the simplicity that has been maintained for our email list, and the independence to the extent possible for us to be in a platform that supports us. Thank you for your work on this over many years, and also to those who preceded you.</p>
<p dir="auto">A super super simple way to pay attention to the list, and to follow threads really really easily is to use the GREAT feature of the archives <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>. Every post gets placed in the archives, the archives are searchable. When something that is posted catches my attention, it is easy to go to the archives to see what I may have missed in the thread and also simultaneously by topic access what has been discussed in relation to the topic over the years.</p>
<p dir="auto">in genuine contact,<br>
Birgitt</p>
<p dir="auto">Picture</p>
<p dir="auto">Birgitt Williams<br>
Senior consultant-author-mentor to leaders and consultants<br>
Specialist in organizational and systemic transformation, leadership development, and the power of nourishing a culture of leadership.<br>
<a href="http://www.dalarinternational.com">www.dalarinternational.com</a></p>
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<p dir="auto">On 29 Jan 2021, at 18:27, info via OSList wrote:</p>
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<blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #5855D5; color:#5855D5; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px"><div id="9736F8AD-650F-4E18-8193-B2A36D16DABC"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Hear hear. </div><div dir="auto">Love it!</div><div dir="auto">Tonnie</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="composer_signature" dir="auto"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Verzonden vanaf mijn Galaxy</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------</div><div>Van: Tony Budak via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> </div><div>Datum: 29-01-2021 17:59 (GMT+01:00) </div><div>Aan: Harrison Owen SR via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> </div><div>Cc: Tony Budak <tonybudak@tbmw.org> </div><div>Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] This list serve is antiquated big time </div><div><br></div></div>
<p>No Not antiquated. I could not agree more with Harrison. This is
a very effective list serve. Thank you again, Harrison.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br>
Tony<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/29/2021 11:53 AM, Harrison Owen SR
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<div dir="ltr">Oh Yes... OSLIST started as a phone operated
bulletin board. And for sure it doesn't exist in 4 colors/touch
screen. BUT it has probably existed as long or longer than any
competitors, is searchable, carries the thinking/sweat/arguments
of those who discovered living in Open Space (that would be
1000's) and Harold (the most recent curator) has done a
marvelous job. Thanks. Could it be better? Sure... but it has
worked for ? (20??)years! And please don't fix it if it ain't
broke...
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AM Harold Shinsato via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
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<div> Michael,<br>
<br>
Thanks. I appreciate the kind words. And I also know I could
do better. Thank you as well for helping out with the admin
work for the OSList.<br>
<br>
I couldn't see an easy way to see the count via the
Archives. But looking at my own stash of the emails, I
counted 42.9k messages since the first one in December of
1996 back in the old Boise State University LISTSERV (<a href="mailto:OSLIST@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU">OSLIST@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU</a>) days.<br>
<br>
Harold<br>
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<div>On 1/28/21 4:48 PM, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Great job, and big thanks Harold. You’re
the only reason the list still exists in this open,
free, independent way. </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">And just so everyone can notice the scale
of the thing, how many messages have we posted here so
far? </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Cuz it’s not just about updating or
swapping email tools, folks. Harold has managed this so
that we still have and can search every message ever
sent through the list. Amazing!</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I know we passed 30000 some time ago but
couldn’t guess what the total is now. I can’t figure
where to look it up anymore. Do you have that number,
Harold?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Thanks, Michael </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, Jan 28, 2021
at 08:40 Birgitt Williams via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Thank you
Harold,</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">I love
the simplicity that has been maintained for our
email list, and the independence to the extent
possible for us to be in a platform that
supports us. Thank you for your work on this
over many years, and also to those who preceded
you.</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">A super
super simple way to pay attention to the list,
and to follow threads really really easily is to
use the GREAT feature of the archives <a style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" rel="noreferrer" href="http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org">http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>.
Every post gets placed in the archives, the
archives are searchable. When something that is
posted catches my attention, it is easy to go to
the archives to see what I may have missed in
the thread and also simultaneously by topic
access what has been discussed in relation to
the topic over the years. </div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">in
genuine contact,</div>
<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Birgitt</div>
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in organizational
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