[OSList] Non Confused American
Mark Carmel
markacarmel at gmail.com
Fri Jan 15 06:51:24 PST 2021
It is ALL going according to plan right now.
MC
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> 1. Confused American (Jeff Aitken)
> 2. Re: Confused American (Patricia Haines)
> 3. Re: Confused American (Lise Damkjaer)
> 4. Re: Confused American (Michael M Pannwitz)
> 5. Re: Confused American (harrison owen)
> 6. Re: Confused American (Patricia Haines)
> 7. Re: Confused American (paul levy)
> 8. Re: Confused American (Barry Owen)
> 9. Re: Confused European (fk at open2flow.co.uk)
> 10. Re: Confused American (Jeff Aitken)
> 11. Re: Confused American (Chris Corrigan)
> 12. Re: Confused American (Marc C. Trudeau)
> 13. Re: Confused American (harrison owen)
> 14. Re: Confused American (CHARLES COLPITTS)
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> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 14:48:57 -0800
> From: Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>
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> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the
> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public
> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic
> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated
> leading up to that moment, it seemed.
>
> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube
> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background
> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with
> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take
> place on the optimal day.
>
> What went wrong? I remain confused.
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 23:21:51 -0500
> From: Patricia Haines <levelgreen2010 at gmail.com>
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> I thought Open Space was about democracy, giving voice to everyone?
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 9:26 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> > As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the
> > President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public
> > speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic
> > pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated
> > leading up to that moment, it seemed.
> >
> > The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube
> > channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background
> > (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with
> > other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take
> > place on the optimal day.
> >
> > What went wrong? I remain confused.
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:07:53 +0100
> From: Lise Damkjaer <lise at learning4life.dk>
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> Hi Jeff
>
> I'm confused about your post. I really want to ignore it, because to me
> it seems to be a joke or some conspiracy theory.
>
> But here on OSLIST, I think we want to listen and we want dialogue with
> everyone with an open mind. So I will not ignore you.
>
> I admit that I don't understand how you could get that perspective and
> how you can wish for a newly elected president to be arrested. To me it
> seems to ruin democracy in your own country. Is it that you actually
> don't want democracy? and how do you combine loving Open Space with not
> wanting democracy? or Open Space-thinking with accusing people?
>
> Lise
>
> Copenhagen, Denmark
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>
>
> On 13-01-2021 23:48, Jeff Aitken via OSList wrote:
> > As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the
> > President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public
> > speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic
> > pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated
> > leading up to that moment, it seemed.
> >
> > The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube
> > channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background
> > (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with
> > other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take
> > place on the optimal day.
> >
> > What went wrong? I remain confused.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:12:53 +0100
> From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
> To: Patricia Haines via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American
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> Dear Patricia,
>
> everything is open space, even democratic systems and institution but
> also a mafia organisation or autocratic systems.
> The forces of selforganisation do their thing everywhere, completely
> independent of the various criteria we have for classifying whats good,
> bad or indifferent.
> And Open Space Technology, the process we work with, is an approach that
> expands time and space for the force of selforganisation to unfold. Its
> the only group/organisation/system approach that has that as its core
> activity.
> But dont worry, even without OST, selforganisation thrives... sometimes
> hardly noticeable. And if you find an organsation/system with not signs
> of selforganisation you can be sure its dead for all practical purposes.
>
> Now, as an UScitizen looking at whats happening in the USA from my
> distant viewpoint in Berlin, I see that the forces of selforganisation
> are alive and kicking back home.
>
> Cheers and stay healthy
> mmp
> Am 14.01.2021 um 05:21 schrieb Patricia Haines via OSList:
> > I thought Open Space was about democracy, giving voice to everyone?
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 9:26 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList
> > <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >>
> > wrote:
> >
> > As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the
> > President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6
> public
> > speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that
> satanic
> > pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly
> orchestrated
> > leading up to that moment, it seemed.
> >
> > The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube
> > channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background
> > (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic
> (with
> > other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take
> > place on the optimal day.
> >
> > What went wrong? I remain confused.
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>
> In der Open Space World Map tummeln sich 159 Menschen, die in
> Deutschland, ?sterreich und der Schweiz mit dem open space Verfahren
> arbeiten.
> Weltweit sind es 509 aus 77 L?ndern, die in 142 L?ndern os verbreiten.
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:34:03 -0500
> From: harrison owen <hhowensr at gmail.com>
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:46:55 -0500
> From: Patricia Haines <levelgreen2010 at gmail.com>
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> This is a really useful thread for me. I've wanted to find a way to
> understand the range of political thinking, beyond the bubble of Ithaca,
> NY. I'm glad to be reminded that "self-organization" does indeed invite all
> voices into the space, where we listen with respect without having to
> agree. Thank you all. Challenging times around this world.
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 9:34 AM harrison owen via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> > This is totally weird? I?ve known Jeff for years and I simply can?t
> > believe he would say something like that. Strange times.
> >
> >
> >
> > ho
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> > Windows 10
> >
> >
> >
> > *From: *Jeff Aitken via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > *Sent: *Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:49 PM
> > *To: *World wide Open Space Technology email list
> > <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > *Cc: *Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>
> > *Subject: *[OSList] Confused American
> >
> >
> >
> > As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the
> >
> > President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public
> >
> > speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic
> >
> > pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated
> >
> > leading up to that moment, it seemed.
> >
> >
> >
> > The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube
> >
> > channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background
> >
> > (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with
> >
> > other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take
> >
> > place on the optimal day.
> >
> >
> >
> > What went wrong? I remain confused.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 15:39:35 +0000
> From: paul levy <paul at cats3000.net>
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> Perrhaps it is my English sense of humour. I read deep irony into Jeff's
> post and then, via glorious. Wildesque satire, it reads rather differently
>
> >From the garden shed, a haven in lockdown,
>
> Paul
>
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 14:34 harrison owen via OSList, <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> > This is totally weird? I?ve known Jeff for years and I simply can?t
> > believe he would say something like that. Strange times.
> >
> >
> >
> > ho
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> > Windows 10
> >
> >
> >
> > *From: *Jeff Aitken via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > *Sent: *Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:49 PM
> > *To: *World wide Open Space Technology email list
> > <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > *Cc: *Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>
> > *Subject: *[OSList] Confused American
> >
> >
> >
> > As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the
> >
> > President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public
> >
> > speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic
> >
> > pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated
> >
> > leading up to that moment, it seemed.
> >
> >
> >
> > The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube
> >
> > channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background
> >
> > (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with
> >
> > other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take
> >
> > place on the optimal day.
> >
> >
> >
> > What went wrong? I remain confused.
> >
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:42:34 -0600
> From: Barry Owen <barry at paretorealtyllc.com>
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> Exactly Paul - I thought "Tongue in cheek"
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:39 AM paul levy via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> > Perrhaps it is my English sense of humour. I read deep irony into Jeff's
> > post and then, via glorious. Wildesque satire, it reads rather
> differently
> >
> > From the garden shed, a haven in lockdown,
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 14:34 harrison owen via OSList, <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> >> This is totally weird? I?ve known Jeff for years and I simply can?t
> >> believe he would say something like that. Strange times.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ho
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> >> Windows 10
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From: *Jeff Aitken via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> >> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:49 PM
> >> *To: *World wide Open Space Technology email list
> >> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> >> *Cc: *Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>
> >> *Subject: *[OSList] Confused American
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the
> >>
> >> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public
> >>
> >> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic
> >>
> >> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated
> >>
> >> leading up to that moment, it seemed.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube
> >>
> >> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background
> >>
> >> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with
> >>
> >> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take
> >>
> >> place on the optimal day.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> What went wrong? I remain confused.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >> OSList mailing list
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 15:58:16 -0000
> From: <fk at open2flow.co.uk>
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> Mmm? I read Jeff?s comment differently, satirically, referring to
> T-supporters? QAnon conspiracy theory. With the insurgence having
> successfully gone as far as it did, why didn?t T go all the way, with a
> complete coup? Everything was in place, the capitol besieged, so why didn?t
> T pull the ultimate trigger? A close call! Confused - yes, there?s a lot
> more that we haven?t heard yet. As a European, I?m also confused, but
> relieved at the same time.
>
> Fran?ois
>
>
>
>
>
> From: OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> On Behalf Of
> Patricia Haines via OSList
> Sent: 14 January 2021 14:47
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Cc: Patricia Haines <levelgreen2010 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American
>
>
>
> This is a really useful thread for me. I've wanted to find a way to
> understand the range of political thinking, beyond the bubble of Ithaca,
> NY. I'm glad to be reminded that "self-organization" does indeed invite all
> voices into the space, where we listen with respect without having to
> agree. Thank you all. Challenging times around this world.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 9:34 AM harrison owen via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> >
> wrote:
>
> This is totally weird? I?ve known Jeff for years and I simply can?t
> believe he would say something like that. Strange times.
>
>
>
> ho
>
>
>
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> From: Jeff Aitken via OSList <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:49 PM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <mailto:
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Cc: Jeff Aitken <mailto:r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>
> Subject: [OSList] Confused American
>
>
>
> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the
>
> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public
>
> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic
>
> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated
>
> leading up to that moment, it seemed.
>
>
>
> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube
>
> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background
>
> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with
>
> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take
>
> place on the optimal day.
>
>
>
> What went wrong? I remain confused.
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 10:55:24 -0800
> From: Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>
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> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American
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> Hi folks. The voice that I used for that post was that of my cousin, whom I
> love very much. He is, like me, a white American with twelve generations of
> ancestry in Maryland and West Virginia, until our grandfather moved to
> California.
>
> I was reflecting on the theme of the upcoming online OS conference, around
> holding space for 8 billion people in conversation. My cousin's voice came
> through suddenly, to start to reflect the intensity of the conflicts in the
> USA on the day of the 2nd impeachment.
>
> Holding space for even the USA's 300+ million at this time requires digging
> deeper than usual. I need to understand the assumptions and judgments that
> I make about folks whose voices sound like that. I did have satire in mind
> at first, but then the floor dropped out beneath me.
>
> So, it became an offering in these interesting times.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 7:43 AM Barry Owen via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> > Exactly Paul - I thought "Tongue in cheek"
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:39 AM paul levy via OSList <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Perrhaps it is my English sense of humour. I read deep irony into Jeff's
> >> post and then, via glorious. Wildesque satire, it reads rather
> differently
> >>
> >> From the garden shed, a haven in lockdown,
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 14:34 harrison owen via OSList, <
> >> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is totally weird? I?ve known Jeff for years and I simply can?t
> >>> believe he would say something like that. Strange times.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ho
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> >>> Windows 10
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *From: *Jeff Aitken via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> >>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:49 PM
> >>> *To: *World wide Open Space Technology email list
> >>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> >>> *Cc: *Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>
> >>> *Subject: *[OSList] Confused American
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the
> >>>
> >>> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public
> >>>
> >>> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic
> >>>
> >>> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated
> >>>
> >>> leading up to that moment, it seemed.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube
> >>>
> >>> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background
> >>>
> >>> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with
> >>>
> >>> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take
> >>>
> >>> place on the optimal day.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> What went wrong? I remain confused.
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>>
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> >
> > --
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> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 11:07:12 -0800
> From: Chris Corrigan <chris at chriscorrigan.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American
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> All cultures have a trickster.
>
> You're all just not used to it being Jeff!
>
> (a friendly raven squawk, right back at you, brother)
>
> Chris
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 10:56 AM Jeff Aitken via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi folks. The voice that I used for that post was that of my cousin, whom
> > I love very much. He is, like me, a white American with
> > twelve generations of ancestry in Maryland and West Virginia, until our
> > grandfather moved to California.
> >
> > I was reflecting on the theme of the upcoming online OS conference,
> around
> > holding space for 8 billion people in conversation. My cousin's voice
> came
> > through suddenly, to start to reflect the intensity of the conflicts in
> the
> > USA on the day of the 2nd impeachment.
> >
> > Holding space for even the USA's 300+ million at this time requires
> > digging deeper than usual. I need to understand the assumptions and
> > judgments that I make about folks whose voices sound like that. I did
> have
> > satire in mind at first, but then the floor dropped out beneath me.
> >
> > So, it became an offering in these interesting times.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 7:43 AM Barry Owen via OSList <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Exactly Paul - I thought "Tongue in cheek"
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:39 AM paul levy via OSList <
> >> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Perrhaps it is my English sense of humour. I read deep irony into
> Jeff's
> >>> post and then, via glorious. Wildesque satire, it reads rather
> differently
> >>>
> >>> From the garden shed, a haven in lockdown,
> >>>
> >>> Paul
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 14:34 harrison owen via OSList, <
> >>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> This is totally weird? I?ve known Jeff for years and I simply can?t
> >>>> believe he would say something like that. Strange times.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ho
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> >>>> Windows 10
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> *From: *Jeff Aitken via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> >>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:49 PM
> >>>> *To: *World wide Open Space Technology email list
> >>>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> >>>> *Cc: *Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>
> >>>> *Subject: *[OSList] Confused American
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the
> >>>>
> >>>> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public
> >>>>
> >>>> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic
> >>>>
> >>>> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated
> >>>>
> >>>> leading up to that moment, it seemed.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube
> >>>>
> >>>> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background
> >>>>
> >>>> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with
> >>>>
> >>>> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take
> >>>>
> >>>> place on the optimal day.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> What went wrong? I remain confused.
> >>>>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>
> >>>> OSList mailing list
> >>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >> <
> https://barryowen.us?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb
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> >> Barry Owen
> >> barryowen.us
> >> <
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 19:08:52 +0000
> From: "Marc C. Trudeau" <marctrudeau at alum.wpi.edu>
> To: "OSList (email to post)" <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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>
> On Jan 14, 2021, at 1:55 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi folks. The voice that I used for that post was that of my cousin, whom
> I love very much. He is, like me, a white American with twelve generations
> of ancestry in Maryland and West Virginia, until our grandfather moved to
> California.
>
> I was reflecting on the theme of the upcoming online OS conference, around
> holding space for 8 billion people in conversation. My cousin's voice came
> through suddenly, to start to reflect the intensity of the conflicts in the
> USA on the day of the 2nd impeachment.
>
> Holding space for even the USA's 300+ million at this time requires
> digging deeper than usual. I need to understand the assumptions and
> judgments that I make about folks whose voices sound like that. I did have
> satire in mind at first, but then the floor dropped out beneath me.
>
> So, it became an offering in these interesting times.
>
> Jeff
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> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 15:29:56 -0500
> From: harrison owen <hhowensr at gmail.com>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 16:23:49 -0500
> From: CHARLES COLPITTS <charlosc at aol.com>
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> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> All Jeff is doing is reminding us what the Qanon expectations were for the
> Trump administration. It?s total lunacy, but it?s central part of the
> Qanon litany.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 13, 2021, at 11:22 PM, Patricia Haines via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > I thought Open Space was about democracy, giving voice to everyone?
> >
> >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 9:26 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> >> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the
> >> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public
> >> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic
> >> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated
> >> leading up to that moment, it seemed.
> >>
> >> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube
> >> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background
> >> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with
> >> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take
> >> place on the optimal day.
> >>
> >> What went wrong? I remain confused.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> OSList mailing list
> >> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
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