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1. Confused American (Jeff Aitken)<br>
2. Re: Confused American (Patricia Haines)<br>
3. Re: Confused American (Lise Damkjaer)<br>
4. Re: Confused American (Michael M Pannwitz)<br>
5. Re: Confused American (harrison owen)<br>
6. Re: Confused American (Patricia Haines)<br>
7. Re: Confused American (paul levy)<br>
8. Re: Confused American (Barry Owen)<br>
9. Re: Confused European (<a href="mailto:fk@open2flow.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">fk@open2flow.co.uk</a>)<br>
10. Re: Confused American (Jeff Aitken)<br>
11. Re: Confused American (Chris Corrigan)<br>
12. Re: Confused American (Marc C. Trudeau)<br>
13. Re: Confused American (harrison owen)<br>
14. Re: Confused American (CHARLES COLPITTS)<br>
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 14:48:57 -0800<br>
From: Jeff Aitken <<a href="mailto:r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com</a>><br>
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As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the<br>
President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public<br>
speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic<br>
pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated<br>
leading up to that moment, it seemed.<br>
<br>
The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube<br>
channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background<br>
(who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with<br>
other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take<br>
place on the optimal day.<br>
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What went wrong? I remain confused.<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 23:21:51 -0500<br>
From: Patricia Haines <<a href="mailto:levelgreen2010@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">levelgreen2010@gmail.com</a>><br>
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I thought Open Space was about democracy, giving voice to everyone?<br>
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On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 9:26 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList <<br>
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> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the<br>
> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public<br>
> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic<br>
> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated<br>
> leading up to that moment, it seemed.<br>
><br>
> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube<br>
> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background<br>
> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with<br>
> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take<br>
> place on the optimal day.<br>
><br>
> What went wrong? I remain confused.<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:07:53 +0100<br>
From: Lise Damkjaer <<a href="mailto:lise@learning4life.dk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">lise@learning4life.dk</a>><br>
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Hi Jeff<br>
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I'm confused about your post. I really want to ignore it, because to me <br>
it seems to be a joke or some conspiracy theory.<br>
<br>
But here on OSLIST, I think we want to listen and we want dialogue with <br>
everyone with an open mind. So I will not ignore you.<br>
<br>
I admit that I don't understand how you could get that perspective and <br>
how you can wish for a newly elected president to be arrested. To me it <br>
seems to ruin democracy in your own country. Is it that you actually <br>
don't want democracy? and how do you combine loving Open Space with not <br>
wanting democracy? or Open Space-thinking with accusing people?<br>
<br>
Lise<br>
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Copenhagen, Denmark<br>
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On 13-01-2021 23:48, Jeff Aitken via OSList wrote:<br>
> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the<br>
> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public<br>
> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic<br>
> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated<br>
> leading up to that moment, it seemed.<br>
><br>
> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube<br>
> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background<br>
> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with<br>
> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take<br>
> place on the optimal day.<br>
><br>
> What went wrong? I remain confused.<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:12:53 +0100<br>
From: Michael M Pannwitz <<a href="mailto:mmpannwitz@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mmpannwitz@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Patricia Haines via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American<br>
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Dear Patricia,<br>
<br>
everything is open space, even democratic systems and institution but <br>
also a mafia organisation or autocratic systems.<br>
The forces of selforganisation do their thing everywhere, completely <br>
independent of the various criteria we have for classifying whats good, <br>
bad or indifferent.<br>
And Open Space Technology, the process we work with, is an approach that <br>
expands time and space for the force of selforganisation to unfold. Its <br>
the only group/organisation/system approach that has that as its core <br>
activity.<br>
But dont worry, even without OST, selforganisation thrives... sometimes <br>
hardly noticeable. And if you find an organsation/system with not signs <br>
of selforganisation you can be sure its dead for all practical purposes.<br>
<br>
Now, as an UScitizen looking at whats happening in the USA from my <br>
distant viewpoint in Berlin, I see that the forces of selforganisation <br>
are alive and kicking back home.<br>
<br>
Cheers and stay healthy<br>
mmp<br>
Am 14.01.2021 um 05:21 schrieb Patricia Haines via OSList:<br>
> I thought Open Space was about democracy, giving voice to everyone?<br>
><br>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 9:26 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList<br>
> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>><br>
> wrote:<br>
><br>
> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the<br>
> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 <br>
public<br>
> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that <br>
satanic<br>
> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly <br>
orchestrated<br>
> leading up to that moment, it seemed.<br>
><br>
> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube<br>
> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background<br>
> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with<br>
> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take<br>
> place on the optimal day.<br>
><br>
> What went wrong? I remain confused.<br>
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In der Open Space World Map tummeln sich 159 Menschen, die in <br>
Deutschland, ?sterreich und der Schweiz mit dem open space Verfahren <br>
arbeiten.<br>
Weltweit sind es 509 aus 77 L?ndern, die in 142 L?ndern os verbreiten.<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:34:03 -0500<br>
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:46:55 -0500<br>
From: Patricia Haines <<a href="mailto:levelgreen2010@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">levelgreen2010@gmail.com</a>><br>
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This is a really useful thread for me. I've wanted to find a way to<br>
understand the range of political thinking, beyond the bubble of Ithaca,<br>
NY. I'm glad to be reminded that "self-organization" does indeed invite all<br>
voices into the space, where we listen with respect without having to<br>
agree. Thank you all. Challenging times around this world.<br>
<br>
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 9:34 AM harrison owen via OSList <<br>
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> This is totally weird? I?ve known Jeff for years and I simply can?t<br>
> believe he would say something like that. Strange times.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ho<br>
><br>
><br>
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> Sent from Mail <<a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986</a>> for<br>
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> *From: *Jeff Aitken via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>
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> *Cc: *Jeff Aitken <<a href="mailto:r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com</a>><br>
> *Subject: *[OSList] Confused American<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the<br>
><br>
> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public<br>
><br>
> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic<br>
><br>
> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated<br>
><br>
> leading up to that moment, it seemed.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube<br>
><br>
> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background<br>
><br>
> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with<br>
><br>
> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take<br>
><br>
> place on the optimal day.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> What went wrong? I remain confused.<br>
><br>
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 15:39:35 +0000<br>
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Perrhaps it is my English sense of humour. I read deep irony into Jeff's<br>
post and then, via glorious. Wildesque satire, it reads rather differently<br>
<br>
>From the garden shed, a haven in lockdown,<br>
<br>
Paul<br>
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On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 14:34 harrison owen via OSList, <<br>
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> This is totally weird? I?ve known Jeff for years and I simply can?t<br>
> believe he would say something like that. Strange times.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ho<br>
><br>
><br>
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> Windows 10<br>
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><br>
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> *From: *Jeff Aitken via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:49 PM<br>
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> *Cc: *Jeff Aitken <<a href="mailto:r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com</a>><br>
> *Subject: *[OSList] Confused American<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the<br>
><br>
> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public<br>
><br>
> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic<br>
><br>
> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated<br>
><br>
> leading up to that moment, it seemed.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube<br>
><br>
> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background<br>
><br>
> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with<br>
><br>
> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take<br>
><br>
> place on the optimal day.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> What went wrong? I remain confused.<br>
><br>
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Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 09:42:34 -0600<br>
From: Barry Owen <<a href="mailto:barry@paretorealtyllc.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">barry@paretorealtyllc.com</a>><br>
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Exactly Paul - I thought "Tongue in cheek"<br>
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On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:39 AM paul levy via OSList <<br>
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> Perrhaps it is my English sense of humour. I read deep irony into Jeff's<br>
> post and then, via glorious. Wildesque satire, it reads rather differently<br>
><br>
> From the garden shed, a haven in lockdown,<br>
><br>
> Paul<br>
><br>
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 14:34 harrison owen via OSList, <<br>
> <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> This is totally weird? I?ve known Jeff for years and I simply can?t<br>
>> believe he would say something like that. Strange times.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ho<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Sent from Mail <<a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986</a>> for<br>
>> Windows 10<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> *From: *Jeff Aitken via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:49 PM<br>
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>> *Cc: *Jeff Aitken <<a href="mailto:r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> *Subject: *[OSList] Confused American<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the<br>
>><br>
>> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public<br>
>><br>
>> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic<br>
>><br>
>> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated<br>
>><br>
>> leading up to that moment, it seemed.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube<br>
>><br>
>> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background<br>
>><br>
>> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with<br>
>><br>
>> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take<br>
>><br>
>> place on the optimal day.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> What went wrong? I remain confused.<br>
>><br>
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Message: 9<br>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 15:58:16 -0000<br>
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Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused European<br>
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Mmm? I read Jeff?s comment differently, satirically, referring to T-supporters? QAnon conspiracy theory. With the insurgence having successfully gone as far as it did, why didn?t T go all the way, with a complete coup? Everything was in place, the capitol besieged, so why didn?t T pull the ultimate trigger? A close call! Confused - yes, there?s a lot more that we haven?t heard yet. As a European, I?m also confused, but relieved at the same time.<br>
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Fran?ois<br>
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From: OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist-bounces@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> On Behalf Of Patricia Haines via OSList<br>
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Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American<br>
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This is a really useful thread for me. I've wanted to find a way to understand the range of political thinking, beyond the bubble of Ithaca, NY. I'm glad to be reminded that "self-organization" does indeed invite all voices into the space, where we listen with respect without having to agree. Thank you all. Challenging times around this world.<br>
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On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 9:34 AM harrison owen via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> > wrote:<br>
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This is totally weird? I?ve known Jeff for years and I simply can?t believe he would say something like that. Strange times.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
ho<br>
<br>
<br>
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Subject: [OSList] Confused American<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the<br>
<br>
President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public<br>
<br>
speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic<br>
<br>
pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated<br>
<br>
leading up to that moment, it seemed.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube<br>
<br>
channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background<br>
<br>
(who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with<br>
<br>
other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take<br>
<br>
place on the optimal day.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
What went wrong? I remain confused.<br>
<br>
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Message: 10<br>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 10:55:24 -0800<br>
From: Jeff Aitken <<a href="mailto:r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Hi folks. The voice that I used for that post was that of my cousin, whom I<br>
love very much. He is, like me, a white American with twelve generations of<br>
ancestry in Maryland and West Virginia, until our grandfather moved to<br>
California.<br>
<br>
I was reflecting on the theme of the upcoming online OS conference, around<br>
holding space for 8 billion people in conversation. My cousin's voice came<br>
through suddenly, to start to reflect the intensity of the conflicts in the<br>
USA on the day of the 2nd impeachment.<br>
<br>
Holding space for even the USA's 300+ million at this time requires digging<br>
deeper than usual. I need to understand the assumptions and judgments that<br>
I make about folks whose voices sound like that. I did have satire in mind<br>
at first, but then the floor dropped out beneath me.<br>
<br>
So, it became an offering in these interesting times.<br>
<br>
Jeff<br>
<br>
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 7:43 AM Barry Owen via OSList <<br>
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> Exactly Paul - I thought "Tongue in cheek"<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:39 AM paul levy via OSList <<br>
> <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Perrhaps it is my English sense of humour. I read deep irony into Jeff's<br>
>> post and then, via glorious. Wildesque satire, it reads rather differently<br>
>><br>
>> From the garden shed, a haven in lockdown,<br>
>><br>
>> Paul<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 14:34 harrison owen via OSList, <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> This is totally weird? I?ve known Jeff for years and I simply can?t<br>
>>> believe he would say something like that. Strange times.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> ho<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Sent from Mail <<a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986</a>> for<br>
>>> Windows 10<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> *From: *Jeff Aitken via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:49 PM<br>
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>>> *Cc: *Jeff Aitken <<a href="mailto:r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> *Subject: *[OSList] Confused American<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the<br>
>>><br>
>>> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public<br>
>>><br>
>>> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic<br>
>>><br>
>>> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated<br>
>>><br>
>>> leading up to that moment, it seemed.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube<br>
>>><br>
>>> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background<br>
>>><br>
>>> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with<br>
>>><br>
>>> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take<br>
>>><br>
>>> place on the optimal day.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> What went wrong? I remain confused.<br>
>>><br>
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Message: 11<br>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 11:07:12 -0800<br>
From: Chris Corrigan <<a href="mailto:chris@chriscorrigan.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">chris@chriscorrigan.com</a>><br>
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All cultures have a trickster.<br>
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You're all just not used to it being Jeff!<br>
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(a friendly raven squawk, right back at you, brother)<br>
<br>
Chris<br>
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On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 10:56 AM Jeff Aitken via OSList <<br>
<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi folks. The voice that I used for that post was that of my cousin, whom<br>
> I love very much. He is, like me, a white American with<br>
> twelve generations of ancestry in Maryland and West Virginia, until our<br>
> grandfather moved to California.<br>
><br>
> I was reflecting on the theme of the upcoming online OS conference, around<br>
> holding space for 8 billion people in conversation. My cousin's voice came<br>
> through suddenly, to start to reflect the intensity of the conflicts in the<br>
> USA on the day of the 2nd impeachment.<br>
><br>
> Holding space for even the USA's 300+ million at this time requires<br>
> digging deeper than usual. I need to understand the assumptions and<br>
> judgments that I make about folks whose voices sound like that. I did have<br>
> satire in mind at first, but then the floor dropped out beneath me.<br>
><br>
> So, it became an offering in these interesting times.<br>
><br>
> Jeff<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 7:43 AM Barry Owen via OSList <<br>
> <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Exactly Paul - I thought "Tongue in cheek"<br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 9:39 AM paul levy via OSList <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Perrhaps it is my English sense of humour. I read deep irony into Jeff's<br>
>>> post and then, via glorious. Wildesque satire, it reads rather differently<br>
>>><br>
>>> From the garden shed, a haven in lockdown,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Paul<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Thu, 14 Jan 2021, 14:34 harrison owen via OSList, <<br>
>>> <a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> This is totally weird? I?ve known Jeff for years and I simply can?t<br>
>>>> believe he would say something like that. Strange times.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> ho<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Sent from Mail <<a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986</a>> for<br>
>>>> Windows 10<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> *From: *Jeff Aitken via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 13, 2021 5:49 PM<br>
>>>> *To: *World wide Open Space Technology email list<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>
>>>> *Cc: *Jeff Aitken <<a href="mailto:r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">r.jeff.aitken@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>> *Subject: *[OSList] Confused American<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> leading up to that moment, it seemed.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> place on the optimal day.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> What went wrong? I remain confused.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>><br>
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Message: 12<br>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 19:08:52 +0000<br>
From: "Marc C. Trudeau" <<a href="mailto:marctrudeau@alum.wpi.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">marctrudeau@alum.wpi.edu</a>><br>
To: "OSList (email to post)" <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [OSList] Confused American<br>
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On Jan 14, 2021, at 1:55 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
Hi folks. The voice that I used for that post was that of my cousin, whom I love very much. He is, like me, a white American with twelve generations of ancestry in Maryland and West Virginia, until our grandfather moved to California.<br>
<br>
I was reflecting on the theme of the upcoming online OS conference, around holding space for 8 billion people in conversation. My cousin's voice came through suddenly, to start to reflect the intensity of the conflicts in the USA on the day of the 2nd impeachment.<br>
<br>
Holding space for even the USA's 300+ million at this time requires digging deeper than usual. I need to understand the assumptions and judgments that I make about folks whose voices sound like that. I did have satire in mind at first, but then the floor dropped out beneath me.<br>
<br>
So, it became an offering in these interesting times.<br>
<br>
Jeff<br>
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Message: 13<br>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 15:29:56 -0500<br>
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Message: 14<br>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2021 16:23:49 -0500<br>
From: CHARLES COLPITTS <<a href="mailto:charlosc@aol.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">charlosc@aol.com</a>><br>
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All Jeff is doing is reminding us what the Qanon expectations were for the Trump administration. It?s total lunacy, but it?s central part of the Qanon litany.<br>
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Sent from my iPad<br>
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> On Jan 13, 2021, at 11:22 PM, Patricia Haines via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> ?<br>
> I thought Open Space was about democracy, giving voice to everyone?<br>
> <br>
>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021, 9:26 PM Jeff Aitken via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">oslist@lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>> As a patriotic American I join millions who were confused when the<br>
>> President did not step boldly into the opportunity in his Jan 6 public<br>
>> speech to announce the arrest of Joe Biden and others for that satanic<br>
>> pedophilic conspiracy ring. Everything had been perfectly orchestrated<br>
>> leading up to that moment, it seemed.<br>
>> <br>
>> The gentleman who interviewed Harrison last year on his YouTube<br>
>> channel, the old friend from DC days with an intelligence background<br>
>> (who loved the idea of Open Space!) was also greatly optimistic (with<br>
>> other interviewees on his channel) that this denouement would take<br>
>> place on the optimal day.<br>
>> <br>
>> What went wrong? I remain confused.<br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
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