[OSList] The 2020 Online World Open Space on Open Space - Planning Discussion
Harold Shinsato
harold at shinsato.com
Tue Oct 20 08:54:08 PDT 2020
Hi Glenn,
Thanks for what you noticed. It's not clear how to fix these issues.
Aggressive spam policies used by many email companies has hampered more
and more legitimate communication, and not just for the OSList. When a
message bounces, you get a reason (if you know how to look). When a
message is filed in Spam, there's no help. No clarification from the
email companies. Many people complain about this on online forums,
especially against GMail. For this reason (and many others) I am getting
off GMail.
I've not understood why my own emails are often filed in people's spam
inbasket or not even delivered. It gets worse for many distribution lists.
The Open Space Institute - U.S. has been hosting the OSList and the
domain. Since don't host a website at openspacetech.org, an SSL
certificate didn't seem relevant. The domain just redirects to
osius.org, which as you noticed has a valid certificate.
I've just added an SSL cert for openspacetech.org to see if that helps.
If it does, it will probably take at least a few days.
Harold
On 10/10/20 9:55 AM, Glenn Waters via OSList wrote:
> I'm guessing that messages are treated as spam is because the SSL
> certificate for the domain used on the mailing list is invalid. See
> here...
>
> https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=openspacetech.org
> <https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=openspacetech.org>
>
> The domain https://osius.org/ <https://osius.org/> which is the
> redirect does appear to have a valid certificate.
>
> Glenn
> ______
> Sent using an itsy bitsy keyboard. Expect typos and brevity.
>
> On Fri., Oct. 9, 2020, 12:48 Michael Herman via OSList,
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>
> hello sylwia, gmail was treating the oslist badly, calling it
> spam. still is, as far as i can tell, so i'm surprised you've
> gotten messages lately. the trick is to create a filter in your
> gmail account and force it to call it 'not spam' when it comes
> in. michael
>
>
> --
>
> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
>
> MichaelHerman.com <http://MichaelHerman.com>
> OpenSpaceWorld.org <http://OpenSpaceWorld.org>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 2:08 AM Sylwia Myszka-Szyszka via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi Lucas, hi Everyone,
>
> for some reason I don't seem to have any emails from this
> mailing list from between 3 June and 3 September...
>
> Could you give me a short update on what is happening with the
> online WOSonOS? Did it already take place or is coming soon?
> How can I join, etc?
>
> Many thanks!
> Sylwia
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> *Sylwia Myszka-Szyszka*
>
> Open Space Facilitator | Trainer
>
> sylvia.myszka at gmail.com <mailto:sylvia.myszka at gmail.com> | +
> 48 577 804 500 | LinkedIn
> <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/sylwia-myszka/30/53a/2a>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> *I strongly recommend:*
>
> *- My article
> <http://osobyzasoby.pl/2014/12/open-space-technology-metoda-pracy-z-duzymi-grupami-i-calymi-systemami/>
> *about *Open Space Technology*
>
> *- Interview
> <http://www.hrpolska.pl/newsy/hr-wywiad/open-space-technology-metoda-pracy-z-grupami.html>
> *where I talk about *OST***
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
> niedz., 31 maj 2020 o 18:59 Lucas Cioffi via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> napisał(a):
>
> Hi All,
>
> Four weeks ago we heard from our colleagues in Germany
> that unfortunately and understandably the 2020 in-person
> gathering cannot happen this year (their original message
> is at the bottom of this email).
>
> Then Mark Carmel started a thread 12 days ago: "How about
> we have a global OST facilitated by HHO with invites to
> all on this list serve?"
>
> *I propose that we can all participate in the
> planning process for an online World Open Space on Open
> Space (WOSonOS) this year*...
>
> *First we'll need a compelling invitation.* On this Google
> doc
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1coMZo2E_PrhBD2H2N6SYBi1zSTtGoLWF7fnI5_DAAr8/edit?usp=sharing> you
> will find 10 empty spaces where anyone can write a rough
> draft of an invitation. You can also add comments to
> other people’s invitations in the comment section for each
> invitation. If you would prefer to not use Google docs,
> please feel free to reply to this email with your draft
> invitation.
>
> * Action Item: So if you find yourself sitting down for
> coffee one morning with a clear mind and thinking
> about why it is important to bring OS facilitators
> from across the world together at this moment, please
> share those thoughts as an invitation on that page.
>
> *Second we'll need a place to host the event.* If we get
> 25 (or more) people to offer their Zoom accounts, then we
> can have 25 (or more) breakout spaces for free. We can
> use a tool I've built (QiqoChat) to make it easy for
> people to jump between the Zoom meetings, but people can
> use Zoom directly if they prefer.
>
> * Action Item: Please add your name to the Google doc
> (link is above) if you have a Zoom pro account and
> would like to share it for this online WOSonOS.
>
> *When should we do it?* I propose that once we complete
> the invitation, we schedule it with three week's advance
> notice.
>
> *How much should it cost?* I propose that it should be
> free with a recommended donation of $X to organizations
> near where you live (for example the Open Space Institute
> <https://osius.org/> if you live in the US). This way we
> can use the event to build our network's capacity.
>
> What do you think? The thread is open...
>
> Lucas Cioffi
> Lead Software Engineer, QiqoChat.com <http://QiqoChat.com>
> Scarsdale, NY
> 917-528-1831
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 2:12 PM Jo Toepfer via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>
> Dear OS Community worldwide!
>
> /Whatever happens is the only thing that could have…
> /We hereby inform you – with regret, let’s say it ones
> before we look forward – that we decided to stop the
> preparation of the WOSonOS2020 planned to be held
> October 29 through 31, 2020.
>
> After a careful review of the current circumstances
> and the possible developments of the COVID-19 pandemia
> we came to the conclusion that we can not held the
> event as planned. At the moment it would be
> unrealistic to conduct the event in a face-to-face
> format in fall 2020 here in Berlin. We as the sponsor
> and all those who want to participate and would have
> to book their trip in advance would be left with the
> cancellation costs.
>
> The alternative option to hold the WOSonOS as an
> online event instead is clearly not our choice. For us
> this would be a different meeting than the one we are
> entrusted with, and we have no passion to do it online.
>
> The ones who already registered, 43 participants from
> Iceland, France, Canada, Netherlands, UK, Belgium,
> Sweden, US, Italy, Spain, Malaysia, Switzerland and
> Germany, are already informed personally and their
> participation fees will be fully refunded.
>
> *Next steps:*We are currently checking the option to
> postpone the WOSonOS to 2021. Therefore it would be
> helpful to know whether a designated team for 2021
> already exists? If so, please contact us and we will
> figure out where the next WOSonOS will take place. Our
> preparations are on a hold – and /*whenever the time
> is right*/we (and the venue manager) are ready to
> invite you to Berlin. It is still a wonderful place to
> get in touch in Open Space on Open Space and we
> appreciate the opportunity to host it whenever it starts.
>
> Take good care and stay well,
>
> Dietmar, Jo, Julia, Juliane - WOSonOS sponsor team
> boscop and reinblau cooperatives, berlin
>
>
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>
> Jo Toepfer, boscop eg Boxhagener Str. 119B, 10245
> Berlin Tel: +49-(0)30-42018000 Mob: +49-(0)176-22394083
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>
> 28th World Open Space on Open Space 2020 in Berlin
> The worldwide Open Space community will meet from Oct
> 29 through 31, 2020 in Berlin
> Details and Registration here
> <https://wosonos2020.berlin/>
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