[OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

Jake Yeager jacob.yeager at gmail.com
Sat Feb 8 09:13:05 PST 2020


Michael and Chris - do you allot time to review the notes prior to
organizing them?

Thanks

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 10:14 AM Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com> wrote:

> Again, a bunch of great ideas and perspectives on this thread.
>
> After considering it more, I am going to propose to the sponsor that we
> adjust our convergence process. Per Michael and Chris's suggestions, I will
> propose that participants organize the notes into themes. This will assist
> meaning-making and pattern recognition. Then, I will invite participants to
> vote on the themes that they would like to see turned into OKRs. The top 3
> get turned into OKRs using the iterative sprints.
>
> This approach seems more organic and simple. It also seems to flow better,
> and it requires less facilitation.
>
> I also like Ilan's ideas about structuring the notes towards the outcomes.
> I may also incorporate that.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> ________________
>
> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
> you will be free of problems.
>  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:42 AM Ilan Kirschenbaum <ilan at practical-agile.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Extending this to an Open Space format, let the structure guide the
>> outcomes.
>> For example, have the session summary sheets have, in addition to topic,
>> convener and participants, titles for Main Objective and for Key Results.
>> You may wish to add (see if you can find about 3 SMART key results) - if
>> you want to guide participants towards the OKRs concept. That said with a
>> invitation to favor the more open and the less prescriptive approach.
>>
>> As for the initiatives session, one thing we had at a client is to
>> prepare a large board with a table having tall rubrics for Os on the left
>> side, and wider and shorter rubrics for KRs in the right.
>> During this session, participants - conveners and other - were invited to
>> place their Os and KRs in the board and share what they found passion and
>> responsibility for to take forward.
>> In effect, that way self-organized teams were formed to make these
>> initiatives happen.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 6:15 Chris Corrigan via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>>> No...  If the sponsor already knows which OKR’s will matter, then that
>>> would be “pre-set” answers, and I would forget about open space. But
>>> specifying that “we are trying to generate new OKRs” is a fine invitation,
>>> because it’s open and the sponsor should be generally curious about what
>>> will come out of it and how results will be used.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList <
>>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Reviewing again this article
>>> <https://www.openspaceworld.org/files/tmnfiles/choosingopenspace(Bolton).html>
>>> by Diane Blair. She mentions two critical success factors for Open Space.
>>> One is that the sponsor does not have "pre-set outcomes." Would generating
>>> OKRs be considered a pre-set outcome you think?
>>> ________________
>>>
>>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
>>> you will be free of problems.
>>>  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:05 PM Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Oops. It's 1.5 days I mean.
>>>> ________________
>>>>
>>>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
>>>> and you will be free of problems.
>>>>  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you everyone for your feedback! It is much welcomed, and you
>>>>> have provided a lot to chew on. It's such a treat to hear from experienced
>>>>> practitioners.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some info:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - I have one day for the event
>>>>>    - There are about 30 participants: assistant managers to the SVP
>>>>>    - Objectives are strategic initiatives, and key results are how
>>>>>    you measure your success
>>>>>    - We need to define both objectives and key results by the end of
>>>>>    the day: so, it's a tight time-frame
>>>>>
>>>>> At this moment, I feel that I am too far down the line with the
>>>>> sponsor to switch up the schedule too much.
>>>>>
>>>>> I learned 25/10 Crowdsourcing in my Open Space Genuine Contact
>>>>> training for formulating recommendations and have found it to work well.
>>>>> That said, I am open to learning how to let go of control even more and
>>>>> will explore the many options provided on this thread for future events.
>>>>> I'm definitely open to learning more about how I can work "less hard" per
>>>>> Michael Pannwitz's comment. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I have incorporated some of your suggestions in my "convergence"
>>>>> design:
>>>>>
>>>>>    - After the group generates the top 10 draft objectives from 25/10
>>>>>    Crowdsourcing, I will invite the group to arrange them into 3 themes rather
>>>>>    than voting on them.
>>>>>    - I will invite self-organization to refine the themes in
>>>>>    parallel. The group members will be able to choose which theme(s) they want
>>>>>    to refine (or not) in a series of sprints with sprint reviews. The same
>>>>>    setup with key results.
>>>>>
>>>>> Learning as I go as we all do. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Much love,
>>>>> Jake
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________
>>>>>
>>>>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
>>>>> and you will be free of problems.
>>>>>  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 6:14 PM Thomas Herrmann <
>>>>> thomas at openspaceconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Jake
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don’t fully understand, of course, but am wondering what the
>>>>>> purpose/expected outcome is for this development process and also there
>>>>>> must be no more than 3 O’s? I understand they are not yet defined, but
>>>>>> should be identified/agreed on in the OST?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My experience from similar situations is that it is not that well
>>>>>> thought through or that the opportunities at hand if choosing to use OST
>>>>>> are not fully understood.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good night from Sweden
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thomas Herrmann
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Från:* OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> *För *Jake
>>>>>> Yeager via OSList
>>>>>> *Skickat:* den 5 februari 2020 00:57
>>>>>> *Till:* World wide Open Space Technology email list <
>>>>>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>>>>>> *Kopia:* Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>
>>>>>> *Ämne:* [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results
>>>>>> (OKRs)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone have experience using Open Space to develop OKRs with a group?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am facilitating an Open Space event in late February. I plan to use
>>>>>> the 25/10 Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft objectives (O's) and
>>>>>> then 1-2-4-All to develop the key results (KR's) for each objective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives. It might get a little
>>>>>> hairy if the clear cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater than 3.
>>>>>> Guess I could use voting to narrow it down. Also, I am exploring if consent
>>>>>> decision-making could be useful. The sponsor might need to make a final
>>>>>> call on the top 3 if the group is split.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks and much love,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jake
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
>>>>>> and you will be free of problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>>>>>
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