[OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?

Sat Feb 8 07:14:33 PST 2020

Again, a bunch of great ideas and perspectives on this thread.

After considering it more, I am going to propose to the sponsor that we
adjust our convergence process. Per Michael and Chris's suggestions, I will
propose that participants organize the notes into themes. This will assist
meaning-making and pattern recognition. Then, I will invite participants to
vote on the themes that they would like to see turned into OKRs. The top 3
get turned into OKRs using the iterative sprints.

This approach seems more organic and simple. It also seems to flow better,
and it requires less facilitation.

I also like Ilan's ideas about structuring the notes towards the outcomes.
I may also incorporate that.

Thanks again!
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you will be free of problems.
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On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 4:42 AM Ilan Kirschenbaum <ilan at practical-agile.com>
wrote:

> Extending this to an Open Space format, let the structure guide the
> outcomes.
> For example, have the session summary sheets have, in addition to topic,
> convener and participants, titles for Main Objective and for Key Results.
> You may wish to add (see if you can find about 3 SMART key results) - if
> you want to guide participants towards the OKRs concept. That said with a
> invitation to favor the more open and the less prescriptive approach.
>
> As for the initiatives session, one thing we had at a client is to prepare
> a large board with a table having tall rubrics for Os on the left side, and
> wider and shorter rubrics for KRs in the right.
> During this session, participants - conveners and other - were invited to
> place their Os and KRs in the board and share what they found passion and
> responsibility for to take forward.
> In effect, that way self-organized teams were formed to make these
> initiatives happen.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 6:15 Chris Corrigan via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> No...  If the sponsor already knows which OKR’s will matter, then that
>> would be “pre-set” answers, and I would forget about open space. But
>> specifying that “we are trying to generate new OKRs” is a fine invitation,
>> because it’s open and the sponsor should be generally curious about what
>> will come out of it and how results will be used.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Jake Yeager via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> Reviewing again this article
>> <https://www.openspaceworld.org/files/tmnfiles/choosingopenspace(Bolton).html>
>> by Diane Blair. She mentions two critical success factors for Open Space.
>> One is that the sponsor does not have "pre-set outcomes." Would generating
>> OKRs be considered a pre-set outcome you think?
>> ________________
>>
>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
>> you will be free of problems.
>>  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 6:05 PM Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oops. It's 1.5 days I mean.
>>> ________________
>>>
>>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again, and
>>> you will be free of problems.
>>>  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 5:39 PM Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you everyone for your feedback! It is much welcomed, and you have
>>>> provided a lot to chew on. It's such a treat to hear from experienced
>>>> practitioners.
>>>>
>>>> Some info:
>>>>
>>>>    - I have one day for the event
>>>>    - There are about 30 participants: assistant managers to the SVP
>>>>    - Objectives are strategic initiatives, and key results are how you
>>>>    measure your success
>>>>    - We need to define both objectives and key results by the end of
>>>>    the day: so, it's a tight time-frame
>>>>
>>>> At this moment, I feel that I am too far down the line with the sponsor
>>>> to switch up the schedule too much.
>>>>
>>>> I learned 25/10 Crowdsourcing in my Open Space Genuine Contact training
>>>> for formulating recommendations and have found it to work well. That said,
>>>> I am open to learning how to let go of control even more and will explore
>>>> the many options provided on this thread for future events. I'm definitely
>>>> open to learning more about how I can work "less hard" per Michael
>>>> Pannwitz's comment. :)
>>>>
>>>> Also, I have incorporated some of your suggestions in my "convergence"
>>>> design:
>>>>
>>>>    - After the group generates the top 10 draft objectives from 25/10
>>>>    Crowdsourcing, I will invite the group to arrange them into 3 themes rather
>>>>    than voting on them.
>>>>    - I will invite self-organization to refine the themes in parallel.
>>>>    The group members will be able to choose which theme(s) they want to refine
>>>>    (or not) in a series of sprints with sprint reviews. The same setup with
>>>>    key results.
>>>>
>>>> Learning as I go as we all do. :)
>>>>
>>>> Much love,
>>>> Jake
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________
>>>>
>>>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
>>>> and you will be free of problems.
>>>>  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 6:14 PM Thomas Herrmann <
>>>> thomas at openspaceconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Jake
>>>>>
>>>>> I don’t fully understand, of course, but am wondering what the
>>>>> purpose/expected outcome is for this development process and also there
>>>>> must be no more than 3 O’s? I understand they are not yet defined, but
>>>>> should be identified/agreed on in the OST?
>>>>>
>>>>> My experience from similar situations is that it is not that well
>>>>> thought through or that the opportunities at hand if choosing to use OST
>>>>> are not fully understood.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good night from Sweden
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas Herrmann
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Från:* OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> *För *Jake
>>>>> Yeager via OSList
>>>>> *Skickat:* den 5 februari 2020 00:57
>>>>> *Till:* World wide Open Space Technology email list <
>>>>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>>>>> *Kopia:* Jake Yeager <jacob.yeager at gmail.com>
>>>>> *Ämne:* [OSList] From Open Space to objectives and key results (OKRs)?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone have experience using Open Space to develop OKRs with a group?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am facilitating an Open Space event in late February. I plan to use
>>>>> the 25/10 Crowdsourcing method to prioritize draft objectives (O's) and
>>>>> then 1-2-4-All to develop the key results (KR's) for each objective.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The sponsor wants a maximum of 3 objectives. It might get a little
>>>>> hairy if the clear cutoff for the 25/10 Crowdsourcing is greater than 3.
>>>>> Guess I could use voting to narrow it down. Also, I am exploring if consent
>>>>> decision-making could be useful. The sponsor might need to make a final
>>>>> call on the top 3 if the group is split.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and much love,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jake
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When the mind is quiet, the sun of your heart will shine once again,
>>>>> and you will be free of problems.
>>>>>
>>>>>  - Robert Adams <http://www.robert-adams.info/>
>>>>>
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