[OSList] Open Space in Charlottesville
Michael Herman via OSList
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Fri Sep 1 07:32:30 PDT 2017
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Michael Herman
Michael Herman Associates
312-280-7838 (mobile)
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http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
On Fri, Sep 1, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Paul Levy via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> I believe the orientation of the facilitator to be one of "loving
> indifference";
>
> - love for the beauty and eloquent simplicity of OST
> - love for the - as yet to emerge - potential of the self organising
> meeting
>
> The facilitator need not hope for the best nor fear the worst. Their
> indifference - rooted in a deeper love of the "whatever" - is then an
> eloquent, gentle, minimally supportive spiritual symmetry.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Paul Levy
>
>
>
> On 1 Sep 2017 13:48, "Birgitt Williams via OSList" <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lucas,
>> I think it is helpful to have an attitude of 'we are going to create
>> something amazing and people will take action' within yourself. I cannot
>> imagine this going so well if there is any question within the facilitator
>> that there will be limited outcomes. And so I encourage you to think that
>> there have been many community OST events that have had outstanding
>> actions/follow through....and there have.
>>
>> I agree with Michael about many community events being geared to
>> conversation which is a great step forward just by itself...a noble reason
>> for OST.
>>
>> I also know that by stating 'givens' if it feels right to you to do so,
>> you could have as given:
>> -time will be given towards the end of the meeting to read reports of the
>> discussion groups
>> -dot voting to discern what the people really have energy for will be done
>> -based on the data we have...the reports and the results of the
>> voting...next steps for action will be invited
>>
>>
>> when a meeting is designed to garner action, there are additional design
>> elements.
>>
>> Blessings,
>> Birgitt
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 5:44 PM Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> To your observation, Lucas, many community os and onconf events invite
>>> conversation rather than action. Need to invite action but also need to
>>> invite it at scale and expertise and resource levels that are true for the
>>> group. The tools you're offering might be useful but only if folks have the
>>> expertise, time, maybe money, etc they need. Inviting only those who do
>>> might shrink attendance. That's where some chest and invite less than they
>>> really want. Sometimes groups can go find what heft need as first action
>>> steps. Sometimes it possible or necessary to bring key resources as part of
>>> the invite. Anyway, the main thing is to start and see who comes, what they
>>> have and want and might do. It might take more than one meeting <grin>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 16:09 Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Adding to birgitt... open space for *more* of the community we love.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 16:00 Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Instead of inviting questions, ask for a show of hands from everyone
>>>>> who has enough clarity to proceed. Ask people to hold their hands high.
>>>>> Then tell everyone that if you have a question about how things will work,
>>>>> ask one of the people with their hands held up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>
>>>>> ___________
>>>>> CHRIS CORRIGAN
>>>>> www.chriscorrigan.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Birgitt Williams via OSList <
>>>>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Lucas,
>>>>> I echo Michael's comments about 'safety'...it cannot be promised.
>>>>>
>>>>> I got into the start of your scripted intro and thought..."this is too
>>>>> small a space that Lucas is creating...this is such a great opportunity". I
>>>>> would not make definitive statements about the tarnished name of
>>>>> Charlottesville etc as I think that closes some of the space.. Rather, I
>>>>> would really open the space wide for creating the community we love". Who
>>>>> knows what inspirations might show up!
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish you stellar outcomes! And yes, I would do it 'by the book'!
>>>>> Birgitt
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:17 AM Michael Herman via OSList <
>>>>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> the thing i like about the original principles and law is that they
>>>>>> are essentially descriptive, rather than prescriptive "ground rules." the
>>>>>> law, for instance, doesn't say one must use their two feet, it says "you
>>>>>> and only you know when you are learning and contributing as much as you
>>>>>> can." this isn't a ground rule, it's more like a law of nature, defy it at
>>>>>> your own risk. the moving about with two feet is just describing what
>>>>>> happens when people notice and act on the reality of the natural law.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the other thing i notice, lucas, is that you're attempting to promise
>>>>>> safety. that's a tall order. made taller by simultaneously saying that
>>>>>> ALL ideas are welcome. the combination of inviting everyone to learn and
>>>>>> contribute as much as they can, on the one hand, and be prepared to be
>>>>>> surprised, on the other, should be enough. if you promise "safe" space,
>>>>>> then as soon as anyone feels bad the hosts/facilitators are seen as
>>>>>> responsible. what you want is for everyone to be responsible for
>>>>>> everyone's safety. when the event finishes and everyone is still okay,
>>>>>> THAT is something the group (not the facilitator) has done for itself,
>>>>>> perhaps even the MOST important thing. the principles and law accomplish
>>>>>> that pretty well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael Herman
>>>>>> Michael Herman Associates
>>>>>> 312-280-7838 <(312)%20280-7838> (mobile)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://MichaelHerman.com
>>>>>> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 4:30 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList <
>>>>>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The only suggestion I would make is not to take any questions. May
>>>>>>> seem rude, but the fact of the matter is that everything will be clear upon
>>>>>>> departure, and the sooner you get to take off the better. One side
>>>>>>> note—Personal prejudice, I’m sure—The original “5 Principles” and One Law
>>>>>>> quickly do the job, and my preference is always to quickly get out of the
>>>>>>> way and let the people do their job. Good Luck!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Harrison
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Winter Address
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 301-365-2093 <(301)%20365-2093>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Summer Address
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 189 Beaucauire Ave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Camden, ME 04843
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 207 763-3261 <(207)%20763-3261>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Websites
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.openspaceworld.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.ho-image.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Lucas Cioffi via OSList
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 29, 2017 6:29 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Open Space in Charlottesville
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Harrison, thanks so much for the prompt reply. Below is the
>>>>>>> draft script for the event. I wrote it down since I'm out of practice. I
>>>>>>> won't read it word for word; it's just a guide. You'll see the rules and
>>>>>>> the law are not referred to directly, since I think the crowd will
>>>>>>> understand it better if we explain it like this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course I may be very wrong about that. I'm just doing what seems
>>>>>>> best in my judgement. I'm 100% open to any and all suggestions!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lucas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 8:30am: Opening
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [JESSICA]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Welcome, everyone. My name is Jessica G. And my name is Lucas C.
>>>>>>> All of us are gathered here to think together, and we are here to work
>>>>>>> together. If this goes well, it could be the start of something big.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charlottesville’s name has been tarnished. We have a window of
>>>>>>> opportunity for a second act. That window is closing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If there’s one community that can think outside the box and is not
>>>>>>> intimidated by obstacles, it’s the tech community. But we need vision, we
>>>>>>> need passion, and we need to be grounded in what’s practical, so that’s why
>>>>>>> we invited the leaders of ten local civic and activist groups from across
>>>>>>> the political spectrum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [LUCAS]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a participant-driven event, and it will be what we all make
>>>>>>> of it. Our job as facilitators is to help you be at your best and then to
>>>>>>> get out of the way
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some ground rules for all of us to keep in mind:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> · Everyone is welcome here, and we mean everyone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> · All ideas are welcome here, and we mean all ideas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> · This is a safe space for all of us to express any idea,
>>>>>>> even ones which are tough to hear, as long as you are coming from a place
>>>>>>> of respect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> · And on the flip side, if you hear something that triggers
>>>>>>> you, first please assume that the other person is coming from a place of
>>>>>>> respect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> · Think about who is not in the room and speak for them if
>>>>>>> you can. We don’t represent all of Charlottesville, so it’s important to
>>>>>>> think about who isn’t present so that we find solutions that work for the
>>>>>>> most people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Think big. What can we do as a tech community and as a city that
>>>>>>> makes a splash nationally? Can you think of a solution that breaks out of
>>>>>>> the left-right paradigm, or a solution that helps us find commonality
>>>>>>> rather than getting tripped up over a long and complicated racial past?
>>>>>>> Can you find solutions that appeal to both the center and the fringes?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here’s how this event will happen. You see over there an open
>>>>>>> agenda wall. Across the top, you see six spaces: the four corners of this
>>>>>>> room, Conference Room 1, and Conference Room 2. Going down the left side,
>>>>>>> you see three rounds of discussion. Each round lasts 40 minutes with a
>>>>>>> 5-minute break in between. There will be a 15-minute closing session at
>>>>>>> the end.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you want remote participants to be able to join your session,
>>>>>>> then please schedule your session in one of the conference rooms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a moment, each of us will have the opportunity to post a session
>>>>>>> topic. You’ll walk to the center of the circle, pick up a piece of paper
>>>>>>> and a marker. Write the discussion topic and your name. Announce it, and
>>>>>>> then post it on the agenda wall. Sessions should be conversational rather
>>>>>>> than presentations or monologues. All you have to do have are some great
>>>>>>> questions, and the answers will come through the discussion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let’s give everyone a moment to think about what sessions they want
>>>>>>> to hold before we get started.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (pause for a minute)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, when you’re ready, please go ahead and write down your session
>>>>>>> topic and then announce it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (people start announcing and posting their topics on the wall)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now we’ll start the breakout sessions. This is your event, so you
>>>>>>> won’t see us dropping by to remind you of how much time is left or the need
>>>>>>> to wrap up. If your conversation is running long, please take it to the
>>>>>>> cafe area, out of respect for the people who are participating in the next
>>>>>>> session in that space.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Open space has the law of two feet, which means that if find a
>>>>>>> conversation isn’t going the way you expected, you are highly encouraged to
>>>>>>> pick up and move to another conversation where you can contribute more.
>>>>>>> Don’t take it personally if people drop out of your session.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can feel free to hop between sessions, and you can feel free to
>>>>>>> just hang out by yourself in the hallway or even take a walk with someone
>>>>>>> outside.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whenever possible, please take good notes for those who could not
>>>>>>> attend. We expect that many people across the community will want to
>>>>>>> organize around your ideas and help you implement them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are there any questions?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (pause)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, the session topics are posted. Let’s make today count.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 9:00am: Breakout Round 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 9:45am: Breakout Round 2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 10:30am: Breakout Round 3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 11:15am: Closing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [Jessica]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Welcome back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (pause)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What thoughts would you like to share with everyone?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lucas Cioffi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Founder, QiqoChat.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charlottesville, VA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mobile: 917-528-1831 <(917)%20528-1831>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sounds wonderful . But what is this “openspacish” event? Just do
>>>>>>> it. And if you need some help try Kai down in Harrisonburg. Used to be the
>>>>>>> Mayor – and had done lots of OS – by the book. Works.And he shows up on the
>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ho
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Winter Address
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 301-365-2093 <(301)%20365-2093>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Summer Address
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 189 Beaucauire Ave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Camden, ME 04843
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 207 763-3261 <(207)%20763-3261>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Websites
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.openspaceworld.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.ho-image.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Lucas Cioffi via OSList
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 28, 2017 4:42 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>>>>>> *Subject:* [OSList] Open Space in Charlottesville
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All, I sent this out to the NCDD listserv moments ago and thought
>>>>>>> I need to share it with the wonderful folks here on OS-LIST too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You may have seen the violence in Charlottesville two weeks ago when
>>>>>>> alt-right protesters and Black Lives Matter & Antifa counter-protesters
>>>>>>> clashed. One alt-right sympathizer committed a terrorist attack by
>>>>>>> violently plowing his car into a crowd of counter-protesters, killing one
>>>>>>> and injuring 19.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The community is still stunned and no one knows what to do, so what
>>>>>>> should we do? We should open some space. I'm putting together a 3-hour
>>>>>>> open space-ish event on Thursday for the Cville tech community (and
>>>>>>> inviting local leaders of civic and activist groups) so we can figure out
>>>>>>> what we as technologists have to offer. If this goes well, we'll hold a
>>>>>>> larger open space for all of Cville.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If that goes well, maybe I can work with some of you to hold some
>>>>>>> simultaneous open spaces across the country one day this Autumn. I'll also
>>>>>>> try opening some space with Zoom & QiqoChat (for the breakouts). If/when
>>>>>>> that happens, I'll be sure to reach out here so that we can plan this in
>>>>>>> the open.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I look forward to seeing what else comes of all this...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lucas Cioffi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Founder, QiqoChat.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charlottesville, VA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mobile: 917-528-1831 <(917)%20528-1831>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> From: *Lucas Cioffi* <lucas at qiqochat.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 4:34 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Hi from Charlottesville (Round 2)
>>>>>>> To: "NCDD-DISCUSSION at LISTS.NCDD.ORG" <NCDD-DISCUSSION at lists.ncdd.org
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you so much for the tremendous discussion on this listserv
>>>>>>> over the past sixteen days! I've learned so much from the resources and
>>>>>>> ideas you have all shared.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *UPDATES*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The work to respond to the violence of August 12th is just
>>>>>>> beginning. Last night the Department of Justice's Community
>>>>>>> Relations Service <https://www.justice.gov/crs/about-crs> (created
>>>>>>> as part of the 1964 Civil Rights Act) held their first public town meeting
>>>>>>> here. I posted rough notes below so you can get a sense of what people
>>>>>>> were talking about. It was supposed to last 2 hours, but went 3.5 hours.
>>>>>>> The meeting was in a high school auditorium and there were about 500 people
>>>>>>> present. Everyone had a chance at the microphone. There were no time
>>>>>>> limits. There were 10 news crews present.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Big themes that I heard:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Cville's black community is very upset about August 12th but
>>>>>>> also about the lack of economic opportunity & affordable housing, and
>>>>>>> pervasive racism
>>>>>>> - many people are outraged by the police security plan on August
>>>>>>> 12th
>>>>>>> - many people feel the community is still not safe for them
>>>>>>> - several people mentioning that they want to take action into
>>>>>>> their own hands if City Council doesn't act (alluding to violence,
>>>>>>> including the one guy who said he was the one who threatened the mayor at
>>>>>>> the last City Council meeting)
>>>>>>> - two people did get in a 5-min shouting match over the general
>>>>>>> idea of taking down monuments
>>>>>>> - there is a big lack of trust in government at all levels, from
>>>>>>> the city (& police) to the DOJ and the President
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *NEXT STEPS*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As a member of Cville's tech community, the first step I'm taking is
>>>>>>> co-organizing a 3-hour "open space" this Thursday. The target audience is
>>>>>>> our local tech community plus leaders of local civic and activist groups.
>>>>>>> If this succeeds, we'll help convene a bigger one open which will be open
>>>>>>> to everyone in Charlottesville.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've also heard from 10 local citizens and half dozen members of
>>>>>>> this listserv who want to volunteer for any local dialogue initiative that
>>>>>>> we may plan. I'm sincerely thankful for those of you who have reached
>>>>>>> out. For those that cannot make it to Cville, I think we will also plan
>>>>>>> online dialogue using Zoom video chat (breakout rooms made possible by
>>>>>>> QiqoChat) during which time any NCDD member can host a breakout room and
>>>>>>> use any dialogue technique they want; the audience will be people across
>>>>>>> the country. We'll have an open planning process if/when that happens, so
>>>>>>> you will hear about it on this listserv.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll know more after the local tech community convenes on Thursday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lucas Cioffi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Charlottesville, VA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mobile: 917-528-1831 <(917)%20528-1831>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> INTRODUCTION BY DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Department of Justice Community Relations Service
>>>>>>> - Three phases: recovery, dialogue, moving forward
>>>>>>> - Acknowledge what has happened
>>>>>>> - Many questions have been asked and are under investigation.
>>>>>>> - We need to educate ourselves to preven tthis from reoccurring.
>>>>>>> - We've had dialogue about who we are in the past.
>>>>>>> - Let's be patient.
>>>>>>> - We all have to be able to listen.
>>>>>>> - DOJ CRS created as part of the 1964 Civil Rights Act:
>>>>>>> https://www.justice.gov/crs/about-crs
>>>>>>> <https://www.justice.gov/crs/about-crs>
>>>>>>> - Tonight we will collect concerns, identify common themes, and
>>>>>>> create resolution.
>>>>>>> - Here are the ground rules: respect, one person at a time, etc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> COMMUNITY CONCERNS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - lack of trust in Trump & Attorney General Jeff Sessions
>>>>>>> - police were reactive instead fo proactive
>>>>>>> - lack of leadership from City Council
>>>>>>> - we need better gun control in parks
>>>>>>> - we need to learn how to get these statues down
>>>>>>> - we need all voices heard; the political right should be a part
>>>>>>> of the meeting not a target of this meeting
>>>>>>> - the county is part of the Cville community
>>>>>>> - we need faith in rule of law
>>>>>>> - police failed to protect our people
>>>>>>> - wishing there was a way to remove privilege
>>>>>>> - http://solidaritycville.com/Demands/ has 10 demands:
>>>>>>> - 1. Revoke the permit for the August 12 “Unite the Right March
>>>>>>> on Charlottesville” and grant a permit for the Carnival de Resistance.
>>>>>>> - 2. Remove the Lee and Jackson statues, now.
>>>>>>> - 3. Fulfill the “Positive Vision of Resident Directed
>>>>>>> Redevelopment” from the Charlottesville Public Housing Association of
>>>>>>> Residents.
>>>>>>> - 4. Drop the charges against Veronica Fitzhugh.
>>>>>>> - 5. Apologize publicly for negligence in Sage Smith’s
>>>>>>> disappearance, and commit to an expansion of the investigation.
>>>>>>> - 6. Cease the targeting of Black families by social services to
>>>>>>> send children into foster care.
>>>>>>> - 7. End JADE (Jefferson Area Drug Enforcement militarized
>>>>>>> police unit).
>>>>>>> - 8. End money bail, and release people being held without bond
>>>>>>> before their trial.
>>>>>>> - 9. Stop discriminatory stop-and-frisk.
>>>>>>> - need affordable housing
>>>>>>> - police need to apologize
>>>>>>> - discriminatory foster care poliies
>>>>>>> - militarization of police
>>>>>>> - stop & frisk
>>>>>>> - remove monuments
>>>>>>> - resist white supremacy
>>>>>>> - sage smith's family
>>>>>>> - too few minority faces here
>>>>>>> - want understanding
>>>>>>> - call this a terrorist attack
>>>>>>> - systemic ideal of race
>>>>>>> - the DOJ note-taker miswrote on the screen what someone said
>>>>>>> and instead wrote "extend white privilege"
>>>>>>> - it's a shame that there are no Congressional staff here
>>>>>>> listening
>>>>>>> - why were there no barricades on 4th street?
>>>>>>> - lack of trust in government
>>>>>>> - gun control
>>>>>>> - this meeting is a waste of time, because we're staring from
>>>>>>> zero instead of the work that was already done at the Jefferson School a
>>>>>>> few days after
>>>>>>> - Jefferson School had a better, more engaging meeting
>>>>>>> - City Councilmembers have received death threats and that is
>>>>>>> unacceptable
>>>>>>> - black women want to feel safe
>>>>>>> - white nationalists mapped out the black neighborhoods
>>>>>>> according to online evidence
>>>>>>> - if more blacks were present at the rally, the alt-right would
>>>>>>> have opened fire
>>>>>>> - how do we protect ourselves
>>>>>>> - there should be no open carry law in Cville, there's a state
>>>>>>> level rule (Dillon's Rule) that prevents us from making our own laws unless
>>>>>>> specifically granted permission by the VA legislature
>>>>>>> - white supremacists are still in town
>>>>>>> - we are lucky that there was no massacre; we got very lucky
>>>>>>> - tired of calls for unity
>>>>>>> - feel abandoned by federal government
>>>>>>> - DOJ is taking away resources from liberal causes (voter ID
>>>>>>> laws, LGBT rights, etc)
>>>>>>> - I don't want unity with local wingnuts who have a rifle and a
>>>>>>> menacing look on their face
>>>>>>> - ask for resignations of city council and city manager
>>>>>>> - "Attorney General is a monument to white supremacy"
>>>>>>> - drop a bomb in Afghanistan and you're dropping it in Cville
>>>>>>> too, because a refugee is affected
>>>>>>> - free political prisoners
>>>>>>> - investigation of police body cameras
>>>>>>> - tear gas on Cville residents
>>>>>>> - power to the people (w/ black power fist)
>>>>>>> - "they are trying to bury us; we are seeds"
>>>>>>> - prosecute community leaders for failing to protect
>>>>>>> - charge Richard Spencer
>>>>>>> - call a terrorist a terrorist
>>>>>>> - When will Kessler get charged?
>>>>>>> - minorities are silenced through a summer of hate
>>>>>>> - no justice
>>>>>>> - police should have stop and frisked Nazis
>>>>>>> - our low income community has a gate to keep people in; not the
>>>>>>> way it should be
>>>>>>> - want harsh punishments of the alt-right
>>>>>>> - there is no affordable housing
>>>>>>> - there is too much racial profiling and unreasonable search
>>>>>>> - there needs to be recreation at low income housing areas; YMCA
>>>>>>> not affordable
>>>>>>> - no activities for black people
>>>>>>> - there should be free speech for the people who disrubpted the
>>>>>>> council meeting
>>>>>>> - there was a generation of blacks taught to not speak up
>>>>>>> - thank you to the white community for coming out in support of
>>>>>>> the black community
>>>>>>> - there were movies which all happened near here (Birth of a
>>>>>>> Nation, Loving, Hidden Figures); Hollywood must have known that something
>>>>>>> big was going to happen
>>>>>>> - we need to make our history more accessible
>>>>>>> - "each one, teach one"
>>>>>>> - lack of police presence at minority events
>>>>>>> - we're having to police ourselves
>>>>>>> - what is the role of Civlle police?
>>>>>>> - our history is that our city chose to close schools instead of
>>>>>>> desegregate
>>>>>>> - our history is Vinegar Hill
>>>>>>> - they want to kill back men, especially if they have knowledge
>>>>>>> - someone should pay my doctor bills for getting tear-gassed
>>>>>>> - judge has blood on his hands
>>>>>>> - "if you don't get it, we will shut it down"
>>>>>>> - leadership should resign
>>>>>>> - we should all vote differently
>>>>>>> - "What has voting done for us in the past?"- person yelled out
>>>>>>> - this meeting is a farce; we need truth
>>>>>>> - where are police when the shroud is removed from the statue
>>>>>>> last night?
>>>>>>> - Mayor should resign
>>>>>>> - (speaker says he was the one that threatened the Mayor at the
>>>>>>> last city council meeting)
>>>>>>> - give equal rights to blacks
>>>>>>> - if you can't do it, we will
>>>>>>> - police plan was publicly "arrest people when fights break out"
>>>>>>> but that didn't happen
>>>>>>> - don't allow hate speech; follow Europe's example of no Nazi
>>>>>>> symbols
>>>>>>> - our divided country is week
>>>>>>> - many of the Nazis are young, impressionable people
>>>>>>> - alt-right leaders are saying they are taking the country back
>>>>>>> - be careful of what the government tells you, they told us the
>>>>>>> police got pepper-sprayed at the KKK rally (the reason they used tear gas)
>>>>>>> but they're not saying that anymore
>>>>>>> - Trump = terrorist
>>>>>>> - investigate Trump
>>>>>>> - ISIS would not get a permit
>>>>>>> - deny the next permit
>>>>>>> - we need honesty and accountability
>>>>>>> - we need to elect better people
>>>>>>> - what if we had this meeting on July 9th instead? this meeting
>>>>>>> is too little & too late
>>>>>>> - This will play out in Richmond bigger if not solved
>>>>>>> - people shouldn't come in from out of town to battle on our
>>>>>>> streets
>>>>>>> - we need more black people at our meeting; we need a different
>>>>>>> venue
>>>>>>> - police faced the community not the KKK
>>>>>>> - media showed up at UVA torch rally long before police;
>>>>>>> shameful on police
>>>>>>> - no police presence at black churches and many other places
>>>>>>> - need a different process other than this meeting; Jefferson
>>>>>>> School meeting was much better
>>>>>>> - mental health professionals are volunteering to help Cville
>>>>>>> residents; there should be official support of such a program
>>>>>>> - many people are terrorized
>>>>>>> - get rid of monuments
>>>>>>> - change happens within ourselves
>>>>>>> - don't wait for the City's investigations to conclude; that's
>>>>>>> giving away power
>>>>>>> - drop charges on Veronica
>>>>>>> - need a different system than the Cville City Council & City
>>>>>>> Manager structure; our city is too big for that to work now
>>>>>>> - there is police harassment
>>>>>>> - there has been racism for a long time
>>>>>>> - no affordable housing
>>>>>>> - we black residents don't care about the statues
>>>>>>> - when speech turns violent, it's not protected; there were
>>>>>>> clear threats
>>>>>>> - Me: this way this race-based violence is escalating is
>>>>>>> following a similar pattern with what I saw civil war in Iraq
>>>>>>> - Me: anyone interested in building bridges, please share your
>>>>>>> email address
>>>>>>> - the juvenile justice system is broken
>>>>>>> - school to prison pipeline
>>>>>>> - "when someone is incarcerated their family does time too"
>>>>>>> - my boys are back from prison but mentally still locked up
>>>>>>> - we need new economics to build wealth
>>>>>>> - no good jobs
>>>>>>> - need a mindshift change in city council
>>>>>>> - there have never been two black city council members at any
>>>>>>> given time
>>>>>>> - UVA should be held accountable for the tiki torch rally
>>>>>>> - all investigators should be independent
>>>>>>> - we need a community security plan (ie sound fire station
>>>>>>> alarms if there's an attack)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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