[OSList] Research OST

Thu Feb 23 15:29:50 PST 2017

Oh dear me, I'm jumping in.    I wrote this poem today as I consider the
living processes, one of which is self-ordering using an inherent value
intelligence discovered by Robert S. Hartman years ago.

So from this wide-angle lens on the subject of self-organization...   One
needs a different kind of knowing beyond words and numbers as measurement,
I suggest,  we need go beyond the observing of parts and  "things"  or
arti-facts.  How do we see process?   it's more a coherence knowing by
which we sense our self-organizing way, an infinitely complex process,  i
suspect, but   I offer for your considering....What if we are all ordering
ourselves to feel more and more whole coherence towards creating greatest
coherence of the whole? I'm way out here,  but I do welcome company in the
exploration.

Can you see Living Process?

“Sensing it” might be more accurately the pointer

What happened when you were 3 years old,

Can stay an awareness “sign” till woman grown

An act by other can infect you

As you remember smells and feelings

In your body-knowing of good, or ill.

Such senses shape in you,

You decide,

 This works, that doesn’t,

You come to value or disvalue one “kind” of person, more than another

The ways, the acts of tenderness, or disregard

A relating relationship becomes habit by repeated choosing

Because “effective” in some living way

You feel excitement, anticipation for such again,

Or dread, it might be repeated, take note to avoid.

A mindful moment can reveal

Such kaleidoscope realities

Woven throughout your living acts and actions

 Informing little girl continuously till woman grown

Contrasts butt up against one another

These living acts, with results, and consequences,

Require evaluating, comparing qualities you name “good”

Choosing again and again

What works, what doesn’t

Seeing, sensing living, becoming, evolving, emerging

Nothing fixed in relations of relating,

These acts and their results

Keep creating in you

A felt-sensing reality view,

Moment on moment

Forming functions of how to live

In this moment and the next.

Choosing acts of good, or ill

Or some measure in between

This is good, less good or bad,

Repeat or stop

Like soup in the making

You keep adding, referencing,

Sensing your way

 All acts, all relations of relations,

Seeking

A wholeness knowing,

A "never-will-be-againness."

Wondering at it all,

Or not,

Or some measure in-between.

Do you “sense” what I mean?

Skye Hirst,  2/23/17

On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:21 PM, David Osborne via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:

> I find the concept of researching self-organization in human systems to
> prove that it happens intriguing and I have no idea how one would approach
> it since it's all self-organizing and I'm not sure the human perspective of
> working / not working etc applies.
>
> As I first read one off the posts I thought it's kind of like proving fire
> is....then I realized hey.....there is a combustion point ...things that
> accelerate of diminish fires...ways to start them etc etc.
>
> I think a second part of the challenge is that self-organizing is like
> gravity or electro magnetics in that it is invisible and we don't have a
> way of measuring it that I know of.
>
> These are my rambling musings and I'm interested in others perspectives.
>
> Best to all,
>
> David
>
>
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> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:36 PM, Royle, Karl via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> I don’t think you can prove self organization but you could look at …. if
>> this is done in this way then results are.. kind of thing…. And you could
>> see if OS improves efficacy of groups and individuals, which it probably
>> certainly does (in the moment)
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> on behalf of
>> Birgitt Williams via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> *Reply-To: *Birgitt Williams <birgitt at dalarinternational.com>, World
>> wide Open Space Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> *Date: *Thursday, 23 February 2017 at 21:30
>> *To: *World wide Open Space Technology email list <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [OSList] Research OST
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison---the point I was making is about research. If the research is
>> based on going down the path of proving self organization, it is not as
>> valuable to making the case for OST as OST works! It simply works, is
>> useful, creates results.
>>
>>
>>
>> Birgitt
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:16 PM Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> Birgitt – I guess we differ. Proving that self organization works is
>> about as useful as proving that oxygen works for breathing. Seems to. And
>> are there other things going on in Open Space apart from self organization?
>> Absolutely. Or perhaps not at all. Just life.
>>
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>> ho
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>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Birgitt Williams via OSList
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 3:28 PM
>>
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>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
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>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Research OST
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>>
>> Great summary Harrison of what is OST and what is not OST. it is a
>> significant challenge to find what is actually an OST meeting. One of the
>> reasons I created our workshop Working With OST is to make that distinction
>> very clear to all who participate with us. OST facilitated well requires
>> understanding the essence of what is created...and never as the facilitator
>> violating that essence. People have referred to me as a 'purist' and that
>> is fine by me. I believe in OST just as you created it. I do not believe in
>> the variations having the same outcomes. When something is added before OST
>> or after OST, they are not OST...and helping a group of people be
>> absolutely clear when the actual OST begins and when it ends is part of
>> what we are very careful about.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have developed a complimentary method, Whole Person Process
>> Facilitation, to use when OST is not the right method...and yet is based on
>> as little intervention as possible, and creating 'maximum choice, maximum
>> freedom' to the degree possible. Unfortunately, after the meetings, people
>> will say 'we want another one of those open space meetings. They feel that
>> the space is open and like to refer to it that way. I cannot do anything
>> about this conclusion that people make, and it is not OST.
>>
>>
>>
>> I also think that a disservice was done when OST was being looked at from
>> the lens of 'self organizing', one lens that applies certainly, and not the
>> only one...and in my perspective a rather limited one. The reason I say
>> this is a disservice is that too much effort was spent proving that self
>> organizing works, instead of proving through research and other means, that
>> OST works.
>>
>>
>>
>> Having a clean hypothesis about OST as a useful, productive method that
>> achieves incredible results is more valuable that proving it works for some
>> particular reason.
>>
>>
>>
>> My two cents on the subject,
>>
>> Birgitt
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 12:05 PM Harrison Owen via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> One of the questions I find myself asking of various "researchers," --
>> What,
>> exactly, are you looking at?
>>
>> Open Space has wandered and permutated globally, and taken 30+ years doing
>> that. So lots of times the "Open Space" people say they are looking at
>> (researching) has nothing to do with anything that I might call OST.
>> Needless to say I don't own, but I did coin the phrase -- and arguably,
>> I've
>> spent more time fussing with OST than anybody else. Alternatives,
>> Variations, Permutations are not wrong, bad, or immoral -- but are not
>> OST.
>> And in research "facts" do matter. Despite our current (US)
>> administration.
>> So for me, if you a going to do research on Open Space Technology (OST) --
>> it  really needs to be done "by the book." The Book being, "Open Space
>> Technology: A User's Guide 3rd Edition (Berrett- Koehler, 2008)" I might
>> consider that the "Lab Book."
>>
>> The experimental procedure is clearly laid out.
>>
>> The "event" will be convened around an issue people seriously care about
>> (Real issue - not pretend, made up, chosen at random).
>>
>> All participants will come in response to a Real Invitation. One they can
>> refuse. No coercion. All are present because they choose to be there.
>>
>> Once present, participants will be invited to sit in a circle, create a
>> bulletin board of the issues they care about, and the open a market place
>> to
>> make/confirm the times and places of meeting.
>>
>> The Facilitator will be present only at the beginning (1st 15 min.) and
>> appear again only at the end (of the day or program). In other words, The
>> facilitator will NEVER intervene. NEVER. Picking up coffee cups is
>> appropriate. Otherwise, being "present and invisible" -- is the rule.
>>
>> Anything else... "Variants, Twists, Tweaks -- whatever ... is not OST.
>> Could
>> be great. May be fantastic. But it ain't OST.
>>
>> And when it comes to "results" the "researcher" might check "Wave Rider:
>> Leadership for High Performance in a Self Organizing World." That would be
>> my best effort at a Final Report for the 30 year experiment. Which doesn't
>> make it perfect, right or anything special. But it might be a place to
>> start.
>>
>> Harrison
>>
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>> Websites
>> www.openspaceworld.com
>> www.ho-image.com
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of
>> Hege Steinsland via OSList
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:54 AM
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: [OSList] Research OST
>>
>> Hello.
>> I`m working on an article about the experience with OST in Norwegian work-
>> places, in particular municipalities.
>> I wonder if there are som kind of overview of earlier research on the
>> field,
>> published and unpublished
>>
>> Would be great :-)
>>
>> All the best
>> Hege Steinsland
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>> Birgitt Williams
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>> President & Senior Consultant of Dalar International Consultancy, Inc.
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