[OSList] A Little tremor
Ágota Éva Ruzsa via OSList
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Sat Jun 25 22:24:13 PDT 2016
Dear Sarah,
I do thank you for your passionate words to highlight a situation many
countries share with Britain right now... certainly Hungary for a while
now, esp. since last year immigration policy.. but started long before...
I also acknowledge the need to hold an emergent space for arising anything
that needs to when I am serving as a fost and facilitator...
Your words remind me of a friend from Albania the Cosovo war times who then
just said in grief and sadness that during the war for a log time she
decided not to take sides but just serve the need arising and yet, there
was a moment in the course of time when she just had to....
Yes, it seems to me as well that while values we espouse and life we
experience do not match, there comes a time we need to take sides and
become conscious in our choices as in life offering reality, if and when
you do engage in living on Earth, you need to take sides, though do not
need to judge at the same time..
To me the The Law of Two Feet says that all...
Agota
*Agota E.Ruzsa,*
4K:kiadványok-konferenciák-képzések-kooperáció
www.dialogos.hu.
2016-06-26 1:40 GMT+02:00 Sarah Grange via OSList <
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>:
> For us, here in the UK, it’s about a lot more than the stock exchange.
> Since the reckless decision to hold this unnecessary referendum - an
> attempt by a power-greedy man to hold on to his power at all costs - the
> country has been split in half. To dismiss voters and campaigners as idiots
> is to belittle and denigrate some very real feelings of alienation,
> disengagement and fear that have been quietly bubbling up for a long time.
> It feels like history repeating, although the poverty levels are not as
> visible as in inter-war Germany (there have been no wheelbarrows full of
> cash to buy a loaf of bread - yet), the extreme rich/poor divide generated
> by an elitist system that simply doesn’t listen is possibly even more
> poisonous and dangerous because of this invisibility. It feels like there
> is no alternative, it feels like there is no control. Time and again,
> protest marches are ignored. Time and again, petitions are dismissed. Time
> and again, the big corporations are bailed out, unaccountable to the damage
> they cause, whilst struggling communities are derided as stupid,
> uneducated, worthless.
>
> We aren’t crazy, or stupid. But we are divided, angry, impotent and in
> thrall to a system that feeds lie after lie, empty promise after empty
> promise, to people looking for a way out of the trap but unempowered to
> take responsibility for escaping themselves. Someone said to me today
> that we have moved to a post-truth society. (Michael Gove on television
> last week: “The British people are sick of experts”). The Leave campaign
> was built on outright lies, but it tapped into an emotional imbalance that
> had no other route of expression.
>
> People in many places feel they have no agency or voice - the voting
> system here means that in general elections (and therefore almost all
> voting scenarios) the individual’s vote is mostly meaningless. The number
> of people now saying “I didn’t think my vote counted” is astonishing, but
> it’s not because they’re stupid, it’s because the space is not open. Their
> sessions never got called. The agenda has been fixed for so long, everyone
> has forgotten how to use their two feet.
>
> Some interesting statistics have emerged. Among these is the fact that the
> 48% who voted Remain trust largely in experts, whilst those that voted
> leave trust no one. For me, this highlights the greatest lesson to be
> learnt. Good conversation - face-to-face, crossing class and professional
> barriers - has been sorely lacking. Politicians, bankers, bureaucrats are
> described all too often as “faceless”. A crucial connection between the
> systems of power and the people living daily lives within those systems is
> utterly lacking. That one MP who diligently tried to create such a
> connection was violently murdered on the street by a right-wing extremist
> shows how far the rift has grown. Dialogue is met with violence.
>
> Don’t laugh at this, please, because it’s an illness half the world is
> sick with. We think Trump’s rise to power is crazy, hilarious, madness -
> how can America be so stupid? we were saying last year. Now we know. It’s
> not stupidity, it’s a total communication breakdown, it’s an ideological
> Berlin wall, and it’s being built higher every time we call each other
> ‘stupid', ‘crazy', ‘idiot'...
>
>
> Sarah
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 17:00:13 -0400
> From: Harrison Owen via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> You may have noticed a certain shaking in the World Order. It registered
> 611.21 on the Dow Jones. That's a negative 611.21. Essentially wiped out
> all
> gains for the year. Money is only what you think it is and . suddenly.
> pooof! IT wasn't !!!
>
>
>
> One of the "trending stories" on the New York Times was about Brits
> Googling
> to find out what they had done to themselves. Marvelous. It doesn't seem to
> be "trending" anymore or I would send it to you. But such things do come
> and
> go.
>
>
>
> Of course there has been a massive cast of characters, casting stones at
> everybody else. Idiots! .along with a smaller set who are sure they know
> exactly what to do, how to do it, and who should be in charge. Themselves,
> of course.
>
>
>
> Definitely interesting times.
>
>
>
> Might be something worth talking about?
>
>
>
> This is called opening space, seeing who shows up, and knowing that whoever
> cares will be precisely the right people for the conversation. Of course we
> didn't do a lot of "pre-work." Who knew the Brits were going to be a crazy
> as they were/are? - or are they? And no matter. Serious stuff never happens
> on schedule, according to plan. when we are all prepared.
>
>
>
> And to quote a great saint (Brian).. Whenever.
>
>
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
> Winter Address
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> From: Birgitt Williams via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>, World wide Open Space
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> Dear friends and colleagues,
> We do indeed have an interesting opportunity as people who care about
> facilitating OST to open space for conversations that would be useful,
> enlightening, and bridging across divides. Change is a constant.
> Accompanying change as constant is loss even if there are also gains.
> Accompanying loss is the work of grief. I long ago concluded that we are
> all of us in the work of grief all of the time.
>
> I believe that to successfully facilitate OST, it is important to avoid
> positionality, in other words, to be neutral. If in the face of change, you
> cannot maintain neutrality, my question to you all is 'what can you do for
> yourself to get into neutral on any 'issue' however big and messy, and what
> can you do to regain your balance. Staying in personal balance, and
> rebalancing quickly when getting knocked out of it, is of great service in
> these interesting times we live in.
>
> Where can you 'open space'? Anywhere and everywhere. It might begin at home
> with just a few people gathered. I invite you to breathe first, get in
> personal balance, leave positionality behind, and be of service.
>
> one of the few truths I have learned in my life is 'nothing is as it
> appears to be' and another is 'live and let live'. What may seem bad,
> brings perceived good. What may seem good, brings perceived bad. While all
> of this is going on, by opening space, we can assist people in being
> genuine. I wholeheartedly believe that when people are genuine, their
> beauty comes out.
>
> I encourage you to go to
> http://www.dalarinternational.com/daily-inspiration/ and choose a card to
> help you reflect on what you personally might need to develop in yourself
> right now to regain your balance. I just chose a card and got 'leadership'.
>
> Warmly,
> Birgitt
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 5:00 PM Harrison Owen via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> You may have noticed a certain shaking in the World Order. It registered
> 611.21 on the Dow Jones. That?s a *negative* 611.21. Essentially wiped
> out all gains for the year. Money is only what you think it is and ?
> suddenly? pooof! IT wasn?t !!!
>
>
>
> One of the ?trending stories? on the New York Times was about Brits
> Googling to find out what they had done to themselves. Marvelous. It
> doesn?t seem to be ?trending? anymore or I would send it to you. But such
> things do come and go.
>
>
>
> Of course there has been a massive cast of characters, casting stones at
> everybody else. Idiots! ?along with a smaller set who are sure they know
> exactly what to do, how to do it, and who should be in charge. Themselves,
> of course.
>
>
>
> Definitely interesting times.
>
>
>
> Might be something worth talking about?
>
>
>
> This is called opening space, seeing who shows up, and knowing that
> whoever cares will be precisely the right people for the conversation. Of
> course we didn?t do a lot of ?pre-work.? Who knew the Brits were going to
> be a crazy as they were/are? ? or are they? And no matter? Serious stuff
> never happens on schedule, according to plan? when we are all prepared?
>
>
>
> And to quote a great saint (Brian)?. Whenever?
>
>
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
> Winter Address
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> 301-365-2093
>
>
>
> Summer Address
>
> 189 Beaucauire Ave
>
> Camden, ME 04843
>
> 207 763-3261
>
>
>
> Websites
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> www.openspaceworld.com
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> www.ho-image.com
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> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 15:38:53 -0600
> From: Tenneson Woolf via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>, World wide Open Space
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> Subject: Re: [OSList] BETTER VERSION: The OSLIST Poetry Contest!
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> Thanks Jeff.
>
> What I loved was the theme, crossing over from one understanding to
> another.
>
> Beautiful to be in it, and to see these varied expressions of that.
>
> Tenneson
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2016, at 11:28 AM, Jeff Aitken via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Read these poems! Love these poems. Vote for these poems! By June 30.
>
> (I hope this fixed the format)
>
> The semiannual OSLIST Limited Form Poetry Contest begins now! We have 11
> entries in the contest below.
>
> As a member of oslist you have five votes or "virtual sticky dots" to use.
> Please reply TO ME only - NOT the oslist - or write rjeffaitken at gmail.com
> <mailto:rjeffaitken at gmail.com> with
>
> - the number of the poem.
> - the number of dots you are giving that poem.
>
> The contest ends Thursday June 30 at midnight California time. The new
> Poet Laureate will be crowned with a virtual laurel of leaves on July 1.
>
> AND (drum roll) the new Laureate will be awarded a copy of Chris
> Corrigan's newly beautifully published book The Tao of Open Space. Thanks
> Chris.
>
> Apologies for any formatting issues. If you sent a poem and it's not here
> - let me know asap!
>
> (I offered poems to the celebration but not to the contest. Let our new
> Laureate be chosen now! - Jeff)
>
> With a shoutout to our dear departed Ralph Copleman z''l who originated
> the Celebration and Contest...
>
> Here are the poems - enjoy!
>
> 1:
>
> It was obvious there was pain.
>
> Feelings hurt. Wounds infected.
>
> Hopes, dwindling relentlessly over the horizon called ?not today.?
>
> It was the story underneath, finally excavated,
>
> that began to change everything.
>
> 2:
>
> ??? sit around circle
> ???. Look to know each other
> ??? take pen n paper
> ??? describe your theme
> ??? choose a space n time
> ??? invite people to discuss
> ??? bees keep busy
> ??? butterfly dances
> ??? now is right time
> ??? gather with your heartl
> ??? end is also start
>
> 3:
>
> We are spreading out to the centre,
> Unravelling to the core;
> We are flowing in the stillness,
> Living less being more.
>
> The space it is opening,
> The circle spirals in;
> The frozen turns to water,
> The frown becomes a grin.
>
> 4:
>
> Wenn ich sein kann
> wer ich bin
> kann ich werden
> wer ich sein kann
>
> When I can be
> who I am
> I can become
> Who I can be
>
> 5:
>
> Moo
>
> We moved
> To overcome
> Frames
> Stale and hardened
>
> We mooed
> Crossing over
> Grassy fields
> Verdant minds
>
> We mowed
> Sharp shears
> Breaking through
> Rigid thoughts
>
> We mooed
> As we moved
> On mowed
> Open spaces
>
> 6:
>
> ??????? Invite to sit a circle. Look to know each other
>
> ??? ???Take pen n paper; describe your theme
>
> ??? ???Choose a space n time; call people to meet
>
> ???????Bees keep busy butterfly dances now is right time
>
> ???? Gather or leave with your heart
> ??? end is also start
>
> 7:
>
> ???????Invite a circle, look around, take a pen and paper
>
> ???????Choose a time-space, describe your topic
>
> ??????? Bees and butterflies are dancing, now is right time
>
> ???????Gather or leave with your heart, end is also start
>
> 8:
>
> We have a right to treat each other well
>
> knowing from the depths of authenticity
>
> yet mysterious beyond human understanding
>
> that good things emerge whenever we do.
>
> What wonder filled constancy!
>
> 9:
>
> Life is a subtle affair
>
> in which we do well to notice
>
> that coupled in the swirl of the dance
>
> is the real joy of living in togetherness
>
> amid still feelings of oneness.
>
> 10:
>
> there was an old codger from maine
> who said open those spaces again
> for all those who did
> I lift off me lid
> and welcome all those who just came
>
> 11:
>
> The space a circle
>
> Three-dimensional circuit
>
> Transmitting love-light
>
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> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 22:30:31 +0000
> From: "Royle, Karl via OSList" <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>, "World wide Open Space
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> Many of us brits were in the 48%. Who voted to stay in and probably trying
> to become Scottish or Irish
>
> And 75% of people aged 18 to 25 were in favour of staying in.
>
> The vote wasn?t about the eu but was caused by persistent inequality and
> generated fear of the other by a ruling elite that should have known better.
>
> The Uk will ultimately be ok ish
>
> The fear will start if the rest of the EU folds as a result. Not so much
> opening space but creating a black hole
>
> Pip pop
>
> From: OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>> on behalf of Harrison Owen via
> OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
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> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> Date: Friday, 24 June 2016 22:00
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> Subject: [OSList] A Little tremor...
>
> You may have noticed a certain shaking in the World Order. It registered
> 611.21 on the Dow Jones. That?s a negative 611.21. Essentially wiped out
> all gains for the year. Money is only what you think it is and ? suddenly?
> pooof! IT wasn?t !!!
>
> One of the ?trending stories? on the New York Times was about Brits
> Googling to find out what they had done to themselves. Marvelous. It
> doesn?t seem to be ?trending? anymore or I would send it to you. But such
> things do come and go.
>
> Of course there has been a massive cast of characters, casting stones at
> everybody else. Idiots! ?along with a smaller set who are sure they know
> exactly what to do, how to do it, and who should be in charge. Themselves,
> of course.
>
> Definitely interesting times.
>
> Might be something worth talking about?
>
> This is called opening space, seeing who shows up, and knowing that
> whoever cares will be precisely the right people for the conversation. Of
> course we didn?t do a lot of ?pre-work.? Who knew the Brits were going to
> be a crazy as they were/are? ? or are they? And no matter? Serious stuff
> never happens on schedule, according to plan? when we are all prepared?
>
> And to quote a great saint (Brian)?. Whenever?
>
>
> Harrison
>
> Winter Address
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
> Potomac, MD 20854
> 301-365-2093
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> Summer Address
> 189 Beaucauire Ave
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> 207 763-3261
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> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 08:55:46 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Paul Nunesdea via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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>
> Politicians ride waves or at least help to shape them and fear is one of
> the items in their tool chest. ?
>
> Fear of the other is such a powerful tool. Advertisers know that.?
>
> I was not surprised with the BREXIT (the UK vote lo leave).
>
> I have heard that human civilizations go in cycles, like the whole planet
> itself.?
>
> There is something of a strange kind of energy that is accumulating
> recently and that started with the Arab springs, certain equivalent
> movements in China and Europe, namely in Spain that is going to face
> elections this weekend.
>
> These spontaneous?movements?are the bedrock of a new breed of political
> parties in Europe. In Greece and in the city of Rome they won the majority.
>
> Alas, this energy also reveals itself in non-constructive modes.?
>
> The riots prior and during the UEFA cup games are also an evidence of this
> energy in latency.?
>
> Who knows this is also what happened in England? The manifestation of a
> societal energy that is mad at something. A will that resists the rain in
> polling day. A will so in-depth that the day of vote some realize they have
> lied to themselves during the opinion polls.?
>
> On the TV news I remember this British guy from the public saying: "in my
> heart, I will say leave but with my head, I must vote to stay." ?
>
> The heart took control and bingo - a huge stone was thrown in the pond.?
>
> I also would have voted to leave.
>
> The EU pond is murky. We see waves of refugees and children dying in the
> see - WAIT A MINUTE did I said children are dying in the mediterranean?sea?
>
> In spite of the honorable intentions of their founding fathers the EU
> remains a private club of nations whose political representatives selfishly
> seek to please their own constituencies.
>
> I suspect the US history can teach our EU politicians how to build a
> united land. US is the land where OST emerged in recent years and that is
> part of the same strange energy ?
>
> Are we going to close the cycle and get back towards where we started as a
> single global tribe 50.000 years ago??
>
> I see the BREXIT has an opportunity for that.?
>
> The EU needs reinvention.?
>
> Keep calm and carry on.
> ?
>
> On 25 June 2016 at 00:30, Royle, Karl via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> Many of us brits were in the 48%. Who voted to stay in and probably trying
> to become Scottish or Irish
>
> And 75% of people aged 18 to 25 were in favour of staying in.
>
> The vote wasn?t about the eu but was caused by persistent inequality and
> generated fear of the other by a ruling elite that should have known better.
>
> The Uk will ultimately be ok ish
>
> The fear will start if the rest of the EU folds as a result. Not so much
> opening space but creating a black hole
>
> Pip pop?
>
> From: OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> on behalf of
> Harrison Owen via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Reply-To: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>, World wide Open Space
> Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Date: Friday, 24 June 2016 22:00
> To: 'World wide Open Space Technology email list' <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: [OSList] A Little tremor...
>
> You may have noticed a certain shaking in the World Order. It registered
> 611.21 on the Dow Jones. That?s a negative 611.21. Essentially wiped out
> all gains for the year. Money is only what you think it is and ? suddenly?
> pooof! IT wasn?t !!!
> ?
> One of the ?trending stories? on the New York Times was about Brits
> Googling to find out what they had done to themselves. Marvelous. It
> doesn?t seem to be ?trending? anymore or I would send it to you. But such
> things do come and go.
> ?
> Of course there has been a massive cast of characters, casting stones at
> everybody else. Idiots! ?along with ?a smaller set who are sure they know
> exactly what to do, how to do it, and who should be in charge. Themselves,
> of course.
> ?
> Definitely interesting times.
> ?
> Might be something worth talking about?
> ?
> This is called opening space, seeing who shows up, and knowing that
> whoever cares will be precisely the right people for the conversation. Of
> course we didn?t do a lot of ?pre-work.? Who knew the Brits were going to
> be a crazy as they were/are? ? or are they? And no matter? Serious stuff
> never happens on schedule, according to plan? when we are all prepared?
> ?
> And to quote a great saint (Brian)?. Whenever?
> ?
> ?
> Harrison
> ?
> Winter Address
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
> Potomac, MD 20854
> 301-365-2093
> ?
> Summer Address
> 189 Beaucauire Ave
> Camden, ME 04843
> 207 763-3261
> ?
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:14:27 +0200
> From: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Birgitt Williams <birgitt at dalarinternational.com>, World wide Open
> Space Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] A Little tremor...
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> Dear Birgitt,
>
> something that works for me is to be totally partial and not in any way
> neutral, in fact being utterly positional, in my work as facilitator: I
> focus all my positionality on what I love to do most, being fully
> present and totally invisible... getting out of the way of the force of
> selforganisation, not giving in to my urge to take control.
> This occupies me so much that I dont even notice what it is that folks
> have gathered for. If I were to become interested in, bingo, I am
> visible and cant take care of my most important activity: Doing nothing.
>
> Regarding grief it seems to me that I am not into grief work ever never.
> Grief is in many ways similar to the Force of Selforganisation. It
> simply takes over, I have nothing to do with it. Of course, if I fight
> it, I will get stuck. If I were to fight the Force or the Wave as a wave
> rider (or try to shape it) I would simply crash. (I am saying all this,
> gads, without ever having been a "real" wave rider... as a kid I
> remember the joy of being swhooshed a few yards in shallow water by
> incoming waves, lying on a wooden board).
>
> What I find useful is to be aware of grief working with me or an
> organisation or with the Brexit event. The stages are pretty well known.
> In the light of that I am fully flabbergasted on how, minutes after the
> Brexit, before even anyone had time to scream "shit", the busy
> EU-functionaries had all kinds of ideas on what the EU and the UK needed
> to do immediately.
> That stance is what probably got "us" into this mess in the first place.
>
> Greetings from tropical Berlin
> mmp
>
>
>
> On 24.06.2016 23:21, Birgitt Williams via OSList wrote:
>
> Dear friends and colleagues,
> We do indeed have an interesting opportunity as people who care about
> facilitating OST to open space for conversations that would be useful,
> enlightening, and bridging across divides. Change is a constant.
> Accompanying change as constant is loss even if there are also gains.
> Accompanying loss is the work of grief. I long ago concluded that we are
> all of us in the work of grief all of the time.
>
> I believe that to successfully facilitate OST, it is important to avoid
> positionality, in other words, to be neutral. If in the face of change,
> you cannot maintain neutrality, my question to you all is 'what can you
> do for yourself to get into neutral on any 'issue' however big and
> messy, and what can you do to regain your balance. Staying in personal
> balance, and rebalancing quickly when getting knocked out of it, is of
> great service in these interesting times we live in.
>
> Where can you 'open space'? Anywhere and everywhere. It might begin at
> home with just a few people gathered. I invite you to breathe first, get
> in personal balance, leave positionality behind, and be of service.
>
> one of the few truths I have learned in my life is 'nothing is as it
> appears to be' and another is 'live and let live'. What may seem bad,
> brings perceived good. What may seem good, brings perceived bad. While
> all of this is going on, by opening space, we can assist people in being
> genuine. I wholeheartedly believe that when people are genuine, their
> beauty comes out.
>
> I encourage you to go
> to http://www.dalarinternational.com/daily-inspiration/ and choose a
> card to help you reflect on what you personally might need to develop in
> yourself right now to regain your balance. I just chose a card and got
> 'leadership'.
>
> Warmly,
> Birgitt
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 5:00 PM Harrison Owen via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> wrote:
>
> You may have noticed a certain shaking in the World Order. It
> registered 611.21 on the Dow Jones. That?s a *negative* 611.21.
> Essentially wiped out all gains for the year. Money is only what you
> think it is and ? suddenly? pooof! IT wasn?t !!!____
>
> __ __
>
> One of the ?trending stories? on the New York Times was about Brits
> Googling to find out what they had done to themselves. Marvelous. It
> doesn?t seem to be ?trending? anymore or I would send it to you. But
> such things do come and go.____
>
> __ __
>
> Of course there has been a massive cast of characters, casting
> stones at everybody else. Idiots! ?along with a smaller set who are
> sure they know exactly what to do, how to do it, and who should be
> in charge. Themselves, of course. ____
>
> __ __
>
> Definitely interesting times. ____
>
> __ __
>
> Might be something worth talking about? ____
>
> __ __
>
> This is called opening space, seeing who shows up, and knowing that
> whoever cares will be precisely the right people for the
> conversation. Of course we didn?t do a lot of ?pre-work.? Who knew
> the Brits were going to be a crazy as they were/are? ? or are they?
> And no matter? Serious stuff never happens on schedule, according to
> plan? when we are all prepared? ____
>
> __ __
>
> And to quote a great saint (Brian)?. Whenever?____
>
> __ __
>
> __ __
>
> Harrison____
>
> __ __
>
> Winter Address____
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.____
>
> Potomac, MD 20854____
>
> 301-365-2093____
>
> __ __
>
> Summer Address____
>
> 189 Beaucauire Ave____
>
> Camden, ME 04843____
>
> 207 763-3261____
>
> __ __
>
> Websites____
>
> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>____
>
> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>____
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 16:19:38 +0200
> From: Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>, World wide Open Space Technology
> email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] A Little tremor...
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>
> Dear Paul,
>
> I had to grin thinking of politicians helping to shape waves.
> Have you ever seen anyone shaping a wave? I mean the waves in an ocean
> or even a pond?
>
> I is geared to stay calm and to carry on, thanks for reminding me
>
> cheers
> mmp
>
> On 25.06.2016 10:55, Paul Nunesdea via OSList wrote:
>
>
> Politicians ride waves or at least help to shape them and fear is one of
> the items in their tool chest.
>
> Fear of the other is such a powerful tool. Advertisers know that.
>
> I was not surprised with the BREXIT (the UK vote lo leave).
>
> I have heard that human civilizations go in cycles, like the whole
> planet itself.
>
> There is something of a strange kind of energy that is accumulating
> recently and that started with the Arab springs, certain equivalent
> movements in China and Europe, namely in Spain that is going to face
> elections this weekend.
>
> These spontaneous movements are the bedrock of a new breed of political
> parties in Europe. In Greece and in the city of Rome they won the majority.
>
> Alas, this energy also reveals itself in non-constructive modes.
>
> The riots prior and during the UEFA cup games are also an evidence of
> this energy in latency.
>
> Who knows this is also what happened in England? The manifestation of a
> societal energy that is mad at something. A will that resists the rain
> in polling day. A will so in-depth that the day of vote some realize
> they have lied to themselves during the opinion polls.
>
> On the TV news I remember this British guy from the public saying: "in
> my heart, I will say leave but with my head, I must vote to stay."
>
> The heart took control and bingo - a huge stone was thrown in the pond.
>
> I also would have voted to leave.
>
> The EU pond is murky. We see waves of refugees and children dying in the
> see - WAIT A MINUTE did I said children are dying in the mediterranean sea?
>
> In spite of the honorable intentions of their founding fathers the EU
> remains a private club of nations whose political representatives
> selfishly seek to please their own constituencies.
>
> I suspect the US history can teach our EU politicians how to build a
> united land. US is the land where OST emerged in recent years and that
> is part of the same strange energy
>
> Are we going to close the cycle and get back towards where we started as
> a single global tribe 50.000 years ago?
>
> I see the BREXIT has an opportunity for that.
>
> The EU needs reinvention.
>
> Keep calm and carry on.
>
>
> On 25 June 2016 at 00:30, Royle, Karl via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>wrote:
>
> Many of us brits were in the 48%. Who voted to stay in and probably
> trying to become Scottish or Irish
>
>
> And 75% of people aged 18 to 25 were in favour of staying in.
>
>
> The vote wasn?t about the eu but was caused by persistent inequality and
> generated fear of the other by a ruling elite that should have known
> better.
>
>
> The Uk will ultimately be ok ish
>
>
> The fear will start if the rest of the EU folds as a result. Not so much
> opening space but creating a black hole
>
>
> Pip pop
>
>
> *From: *OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>> on behalf of Harrison
> Owen via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> *Reply-To: *Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net
> <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>>, World wide Open Space Technology email
> list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> *Date: *Friday, 24 June 2016 22:00
> *To: *'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> *Subject: *[OSList] A Little tremor...
>
>
> You may have noticed a certain shaking in the World Order. It registered
> 611.21 on the Dow Jones. That?s a *negative* 611.21. Essentially wiped
> out all gains for the year. Money is only what you think it is and ?
> suddenly? pooof! IT wasn?t !!!
>
>
>
> One of the ?trending stories? on the New York Times was about Brits
> Googling to find out what they had done to themselves. Marvelous. It
> doesn?t seem to be ?trending? anymore or I would send it to you. But
> such things do come and go.
>
>
>
> Of course there has been a massive cast of characters, casting stones at
> everybody else. Idiots! ?along with a smaller set who are sure they
> know exactly what to do, how to do it, and who should be in charge.
> Themselves, of course.
>
>
>
> Definitely interesting times.
>
>
>
> Might be something worth talking about?
>
>
>
> This is called opening space, seeing who shows up, and knowing that
> whoever cares will be precisely the right people for the conversation.
> Of course we didn?t do a lot of ?pre-work.? Who knew the Brits were
> going to be a crazy as they were/are? ? or are they? And no matter?
> Serious stuff never happens on schedule, according to plan? when we are
> all prepared?
>
>
>
> And to quote a great saint (Brian)?. Whenever?
>
>
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
> Winter Address
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> 301-365-2093
>
>
>
> Summer Address
>
> 189 Beaucauire Ave
>
> Camden, ME 04843
>
> 207 763-3261
>
>
>
> Websites
>
> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com/>
>
> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com/>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 13:49:58 -0400
> From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> Subject: Re: [OSList] A Little tremor...
> Message-ID: <b4ab36e9-e53a-a90a-d3b6-50dcef37e65f at newtechusa.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"
>
> Recently, I'm surprised by the response of some of my friends to Brexit.
> The vote is a clearly a vote for the decentralization of authority.
>
> I've always associated the decentralization of authority with:
> self-organizing teams, responsive organizations, open space,
> self-management, Law of 2 Feet, a self-organizing universe, etc.
>
> Many of my friends who claim to like these ideas do not like Brexit
> whatsoever.
>
> Clearly, missing something important. I am asking for help. Will you
> help me with this?
>
>
>
>
> On 6/25/16 10:19 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:
>
> Dear Paul,
>
> I had to grin thinking of politicians helping to shape waves.
> Have you ever seen anyone shaping a wave? I mean the waves in an ocean
> or even a pond?
>
> I is geared to stay calm and to carry on, thanks for reminding me
>
> cheers
> mmp
>
> On 25.06.2016 10:55, Paul Nunesdea via OSList wrote:
>
>
> Politicians ride waves or at least help to shape them and fear is one of
> the items in their tool chest.
>
> Fear of the other is such a powerful tool. Advertisers know that.
>
> I was not surprised with the BREXIT (the UK vote lo leave).
>
> I have heard that human civilizations go in cycles, like the whole
> planet itself.
>
> There is something of a strange kind of energy that is accumulating
> recently and that started with the Arab springs, certain equivalent
> movements in China and Europe, namely in Spain that is going to face
> elections this weekend.
>
> These spontaneous movements are the bedrock of a new breed of political
> parties in Europe. In Greece and in the city of Rome they won the
> majority.
>
> Alas, this energy also reveals itself in non-constructive modes.
>
> The riots prior and during the UEFA cup games are also an evidence of
> this energy in latency.
>
> Who knows this is also what happened in England? The manifestation of a
> societal energy that is mad at something. A will that resists the rain
> in polling day. A will so in-depth that the day of vote some realize
> they have lied to themselves during the opinion polls.
>
> On the TV news I remember this British guy from the public saying: "in
> my heart, I will say leave but with my head, I must vote to stay."
>
> The heart took control and bingo - a huge stone was thrown in the pond.
>
> I also would have voted to leave.
>
> The EU pond is murky. We see waves of refugees and children dying in the
> see - WAIT A MINUTE did I said children are dying in the
> mediterranean sea?
>
> In spite of the honorable intentions of their founding fathers the EU
> remains a private club of nations whose political representatives
> selfishly seek to please their own constituencies.
>
> I suspect the US history can teach our EU politicians how to build a
> united land. US is the land where OST emerged in recent years and that
> is part of the same strange energy
>
> Are we going to close the cycle and get back towards where we started as
> a single global tribe 50.000 years ago?
>
> I see the BREXIT has an opportunity for that.
>
> The EU needs reinvention.
>
> Keep calm and carry on.
>
>
> On 25 June 2016 at 00:30, Royle, Karl via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>wrote:
>
> Many of us brits were in the 48%. Who voted to stay in and probably
> trying to become Scottish or Irish
>
>
> And 75% of people aged 18 to 25 were in favour of staying in.
>
>
> The vote wasn?t about the eu but was caused by persistent inequality and
> generated fear of the other by a ruling elite that should have known
> better.
>
>
> The Uk will ultimately be ok ish
>
>
> The fear will start if the rest of the EU folds as a result. Not so much
> opening space but creating a black hole
>
>
> Pip pop
>
>
> *From: *OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>> on behalf of Harrison
> Owen via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> *Reply-To: *Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net
> <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>>, World wide Open Space Technology email
> list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> *Date: *Friday, 24 June 2016 22:00
> *To: *'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> *Subject: *[OSList] A Little tremor...
>
>
> You may have noticed a certain shaking in the World Order. It registered
> 611.21 on the Dow Jones. That?s a *negative* 611.21. Essentially wiped
> out all gains for the year. Money is only what you think it is and ?
> suddenly? pooof! IT wasn?t !!!
>
>
>
> One of the ?trending stories? on the New York Times was about Brits
> Googling to find out what they had done to themselves. Marvelous. It
> doesn?t seem to be ?trending? anymore or I would send it to you. But
> such things do come and go.
>
>
>
> Of course there has been a massive cast of characters, casting stones at
> everybody else. Idiots! ?along with a smaller set who are sure they
> know exactly what to do, how to do it, and who should be in charge.
> Themselves, of course.
>
>
>
> Definitely interesting times.
>
>
>
> Might be something worth talking about?
>
>
>
> This is called opening space, seeing who shows up, and knowing that
> whoever cares will be precisely the right people for the conversation.
> Of course we didn?t do a lot of ?pre-work.? Who knew the Brits were
> going to be a crazy as they were/are? ? or are they? And no matter?
> Serious stuff never happens on schedule, according to plan? when we are
> all prepared?
>
>
>
> And to quote a great saint (Brian)?. Whenever?
>
>
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
> Winter Address
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> 301-365-2093
>
>
>
> Summer Address
>
> 189 Beaucauire Ave
>
> Camden, ME 04843
>
> 207 763-3261
>
>
>
> Websites
>
> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com/>
>
> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com/>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 20:07:41 +0200
> From: Liz Martins via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Daniel Mezick <dan at newtechusa.net>, World wide Open Space
> Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] A Little tremor...
> Message-ID: <8EEE2F82-1CC7-40DB-905D-078FFCEAD877 at gmail.com>
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>
> Dear Daniel
>
> Inclusion.
> Cooperation.
> Openness.
> Community.
>
> The vote for Brexit does not appear to me to be for any of these things.
>
> In sadness.
> Liz
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 25 Jun 2016, at 19:49, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Recently, I'm surprised by the response of some of my friends to Brexit.
> The vote is a clearly a vote for the decentralization of authority.
> I've always associated the decentralization of authority with:
> self-organizing teams, responsive organizations, open space,
> self-management, Law of 2 Feet, a self-organizing universe, etc.
> Many of my friends who claim to like these ideas do not like Brexit
> whatsoever.
> Clearly, missing something important. I am asking for help. Will you help
> me with this?
>
> <Screen Shot 2016-06-25 at 1.46.29 PM.png>
>
>
> On 6/25/16 10:19 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:
> Dear Paul,
>
> I had to grin thinking of politicians helping to shape waves.
> Have you ever seen anyone shaping a wave? I mean the waves in an ocean or
> even a pond?
>
> I is geared to stay calm and to carry on, thanks for reminding me
>
> cheers
> mmp
>
> On 25.06.2016 10:55, Paul Nunesdea via OSList wrote:
>
> Politicians ride waves or at least help to shape them and fear is one of
> the items in their tool chest.
>
> Fear of the other is such a powerful tool. Advertisers know that.
>
> I was not surprised with the BREXIT (the UK vote lo leave).
>
> I have heard that human civilizations go in cycles, like the whole
> planet itself.
>
> There is something of a strange kind of energy that is accumulating
> recently and that started with the Arab springs, certain equivalent
> movements in China and Europe, namely in Spain that is going to face
> elections this weekend.
>
> These spontaneous movements are the bedrock of a new breed of political
> parties in Europe. In Greece and in the city of Rome they won the
> majority.
>
> Alas, this energy also reveals itself in non-constructive modes.
>
> The riots prior and during the UEFA cup games are also an evidence of
> this energy in latency.
>
> Who knows this is also what happened in England? The manifestation of a
> societal energy that is mad at something. A will that resists the rain
> in polling day. A will so in-depth that the day of vote some realize
> they have lied to themselves during the opinion polls.
>
> On the TV news I remember this British guy from the public saying: "in
> my heart, I will say leave but with my head, I must vote to stay."
>
> The heart took control and bingo - a huge stone was thrown in the pond.
>
> I also would have voted to leave.
>
> The EU pond is murky. We see waves of refugees and children dying in the
> see - WAIT A MINUTE did I said children are dying in the mediterranean
> sea?
>
> In spite of the honorable intentions of their founding fathers the EU
> remains a private club of nations whose political representatives
> selfishly seek to please their own constituencies.
>
> I suspect the US history can teach our EU politicians how to build a
> united land. US is the land where OST emerged in recent years and that
> is part of the same strange energy
>
> Are we going to close the cycle and get back towards where we started as
> a single global tribe 50.000 years ago?
>
> I see the BREXIT has an opportunity for that.
>
> The EU needs reinvention.
>
> Keep calm and carry on.
>
>
> On 25 June 2016 at 00:30, Royle, Karl via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>wrote:
>
> Many of us brits were in the 48%. Who voted to stay in and probably
> trying to become Scottish or Irish
>
>
> And 75% of people aged 18 to 25 were in favour of staying in.
>
>
> The vote wasn?t about the eu but was caused by persistent inequality and
> generated fear of the other by a ruling elite that should have known
> better.
>
>
> The Uk will ultimately be ok ish
>
>
> The fear will start if the rest of the EU folds as a result. Not so much
> opening space but creating a black hole
>
>
> Pip pop
>
>
> *From: *OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>> on behalf of Harrison
> Owen via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
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> <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>>, World wide Open Space Technology email
> list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> *Date: *Friday, 24 June 2016 22:00
> *To: *'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> *Subject: *[OSList] A Little tremor...
>
>
> You may have noticed a certain shaking in the World Order. It registered
> 611.21 on the Dow Jones. That?s a *negative* 611.21. Essentially wiped
> out all gains for the year. Money is only what you think it is and ?
> suddenly? pooof! IT wasn?t !!!
>
>
>
> One of the ?trending stories? on the New York Times was about Brits
> Googling to find out what they had done to themselves. Marvelous. It
> doesn?t seem to be ?trending? anymore or I would send it to you. But
> such things do come and go.
>
>
>
> Of course there has been a massive cast of characters, casting stones at
> everybody else. Idiots! ?along with a smaller set who are sure they
> know exactly what to do, how to do it, and who should be in charge.
> Themselves, of course.
>
>
>
> Definitely interesting times.
>
>
>
> Might be something worth talking about?
>
>
>
> This is called opening space, seeing who shows up, and knowing that
> whoever cares will be precisely the right people for the conversation.
> Of course we didn?t do a lot of ?pre-work.? Who knew the Brits were
> going to be a crazy as they were/are? ? or are they? And no matter?
> Serious stuff never happens on schedule, according to plan? when we are
> all prepared?
>
>
>
> And to quote a great saint (Brian)?. Whenever?
>
>
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 11:45:15 -0700
> From: Christine Whitney Sanchez via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Liz Martins <lizmartins2 at gmail.com>, World wide Open Space
> Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] A Little tremor...
> Message-ID:
> <DBBAF623-8B48-48AF-97C3-FF58CDC04252 at innovationpartners.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Dear Liz,
>
> My heart has been aching regarding Brexit, much like it aches when I
> encounter any disruption or ?litte tremor? as Harrison names it.
> Disruption represents an ending, a death. I ache for the grief of so
> many. And I ache for what you point to.
>
> Disruption can also represent an awakening. When grief has done its work,
> this is what I am opening the space for in my own consciousness.
>
> By definition, elections force us to engage in dualistic thinking. We
> know that life is much more complex.
>
> For those of you on Facebook, I found this AthensLive interview quite
> provocative. Mark Blyth, professor of Political Economy at Brown
> University, talks with?#?AthensLive? <
> https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/athenslive?source=feed_text&story_id=1723377684600928>
> about the ?#?Brexit? <
> https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/brexit?source=feed_text&story_id=1723377684600928>
> vote and the ramifications on the ?#?UK? <
> https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/uk?source=feed_text&story_id=1723377684600928>
> and across ?#?Europe? <
> https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/europe?source=feed_text&story_id=1723377684600928>.
> He also considers the current situation in ?#?Greece? <
> https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/greece?source=feed_text&story_id=1723377684600928>
> and the long run effects of what he calls "Trumpism?.
> https://www.facebook.com/AthensLiveGr/videos/vb.1579285212343510/1723377684600928/?type=2&theater
> <
> https://www.facebook.com/AthensLiveGr/videos/vb.1579285212343510/1723377684600928/?type=2&theater
> >
>
> His take is much more complex than Brexit being a vote for
> decentralization.
>
> Namast?,
> Christine
>
> Christine Whitney Sanchez, M.C.
> Phoenix, AZ, USA ? +1.480.759.0262
> www.claremontlincoln.edu
> www.innovationpartners.com
> www.christinewhitneysanchez.com
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>
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Liz Martins via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
> Dear Daniel
>
> Inclusion.
> Cooperation.
> Openness.
> Community.
>
> The vote for Brexit does not appear to me to be for any of these things.
>
> In sadness.
> Liz
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 25 Jun 2016, at 19:49, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> wrote:
>
> Recently, I'm surprised by the response of some of my friends to Brexit.
> The vote is a clearly a vote for the decentralization of authority.
> I've always associated the decentralization of authority with:
> self-organizing teams, responsive organizations, open space,
> self-management, Law of 2 Feet, a self-organizing universe, etc.
> Many of my friends who claim to like these ideas do not like Brexit
> whatsoever.
> Clearly, missing something important. I am asking for help. Will you help
> me with this?
>
> <Screen Shot 2016-06-25 at 1.46.29 PM.png>
>
>
> On 6/25/16 10:19 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:
>
> Dear Paul,
>
> I had to grin thinking of politicians helping to shape waves.
> Have you ever seen anyone shaping a wave? I mean the waves in an ocean or
> even a pond?
>
> I is geared to stay calm and to carry on, thanks for reminding me
>
> cheers
> mmp
>
> On 25.06.2016 10:55, Paul Nunesdea via OSList wrote:
>
>
> Politicians ride waves or at least help to shape them and fear is one of
> the items in their tool chest.
>
> Fear of the other is such a powerful tool. Advertisers know that.
>
> I was not surprised with the BREXIT (the UK vote lo leave).
>
> I have heard that human civilizations go in cycles, like the whole
> planet itself.
>
> There is something of a strange kind of energy that is accumulating
> recently and that started with the Arab springs, certain equivalent
> movements in China and Europe, namely in Spain that is going to face
> elections this weekend.
>
> These spontaneous movements are the bedrock of a new breed of political
> parties in Europe. In Greece and in the city of Rome they won the
> majority.
>
> Alas, this energy also reveals itself in non-constructive modes.
>
> The riots prior and during the UEFA cup games are also an evidence of
> this energy in latency.
>
> Who knows this is also what happened in England? The manifestation of a
> societal energy that is mad at something. A will that resists the rain
> in polling day. A will so in-depth that the day of vote some realize
> they have lied to themselves during the opinion polls.
>
> On the TV news I remember this British guy from the public saying: "in
> my heart, I will say leave but with my head, I must vote to stay."
>
> The heart took control and bingo - a huge stone was thrown in the pond.
>
> I also would have voted to leave.
>
> The EU pond is murky. We see waves of refugees and children dying in the
> see - WAIT A MINUTE did I said children are dying in the mediterranean
> sea?
>
> In spite of the honorable intentions of their founding fathers the EU
> remains a private club of nations whose political representatives
> selfishly seek to please their own constituencies.
>
> I suspect the US history can teach our EU politicians how to build a
> united land. US is the land where OST emerged in recent years and that
> is part of the same strange energy
>
> Are we going to close the cycle and get back towards where we started as
> a single global tribe 50.000 years ago?
>
> I see the BREXIT has an opportunity for that.
>
> The EU needs reinvention.
>
> Keep calm and carry on.
>
>
> On 25 June 2016 at 00:30, Royle, Karl via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> <mailto:
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>wrote:
>
> Many of us brits were in the 48%. Who voted to stay in and probably
> trying to become Scottish or Irish
>
>
> And 75% of people aged 18 to 25 were in favour of staying in.
>
>
> The vote wasn?t about the eu but was caused by persistent inequality and
> generated fear of the other by a ruling elite that should have known
> better.
>
>
> The Uk will ultimately be ok ish
>
>
> The fear will start if the rest of the EU folds as a result. Not so much
> opening space but creating a black hole
>
>
> Pip pop
>
>
> *From: *OSList <oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org> <mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>> on behalf of Harrison
> Owen via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> <mailto:
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> *Reply-To: *Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>
> <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net> <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>>, World wide Open
> Space Technology email
> list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> *Date: *Friday, 24 June 2016 22:00
> *To: *'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> <mailto:
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> *Subject: *[OSList] A Little tremor...
>
>
> You may have noticed a certain shaking in the World Order. It registered
> 611.21 on the Dow Jones. That?s a *negative* 611.21. Essentially wiped
> out all gains for the year. Money is only what you think it is and ?
> suddenly? pooof! IT wasn?t !!!
>
>
>
> One of the ?trending stories? on the New York Times was about Brits
> Googling to find out what they had done to themselves. Marvelous. It
> doesn?t seem to be ?trending? anymore or I would send it to you. But
> such things do come and go.
>
>
>
> Of course there has been a massive cast of characters, casting stones at
> everybody else. Idiots! ?along with a smaller set who are sure they
> know exactly what to do, how to do it, and who should be in charge.
> Themselves, of course.
>
>
>
> Definitely interesting times.
>
>
>
> Might be something worth talking about?
>
>
>
> This is called opening space, seeing who shows up, and knowing that
> whoever cares will be precisely the right people for the conversation.
> Of course we didn?t do a lot of ?pre-work.? Who knew the Brits were
> going to be a crazy as they were/are? ? or are they? And no matter?
> Serious stuff never happens on schedule, according to plan? when we are
> all prepared?
>
>
>
> And to quote a great saint (Brian)?. Whenever?
>
>
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
> Winter Address
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> 301-365-2093
>
>
>
> Summer Address
>
> 189 Beaucauire Ave
>
> Camden, ME 04843
>
> 207 763-3261
>
>
>
> Websites
>
> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com/> <
> http://www.openspaceworld.com/> <http://www.openspaceworld.com/>
>
> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com/> <http://www.ho-image.com/> <
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>
>
>
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