[OSList] Moving through open space! - Inquiry/request

Andrea Chiou via OSList oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
Thu Oct 15 11:01:54 PDT 2015


Hi Skye,

How thrilling that you got to meet David!  I didn't know of him until probably 2010.  But I've been immersing myself ever since. 

I've just come back from a gathering of Clean facilitators in England which I briefly blogged about on my most recent blog post (http://adaptivecollaboration.com)

Note the last picture of the Whirlygig contraption at the end of the post. The idea being you ask to be positioned spatially before being asked questions. David built that contraption! He was a bit eccentric and innovative and had great success. :-)

Anyway, Tricia wants more exposure to Clean Language - so if I arrange a call to do such an informal session - I will invite folks on this list.

Skye - I am open to some other options to if that doesn't suit you :-) 

Best,

Andrea

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> On Oct 15, 2015, at 1:51 PM, Skye Hirst <skyeh at autognomics.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks ANdrea for this reference and Thanks Tricia for this conversation.  Andrea,  any chance we could talk further about your experience with David Grove, I've been a fan of his for years after first seeing him in a workshop he led I had the privilege to attend.  I hope we can find a way to talk further on your experience with him.  And thanks for reference to Phillip Harland's work too.  Skye
> 
>> On Thursday, October 15, 2015, Andrea Chiou via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>> Hi Tricia,
>> 
>> As a faciiltator, you and others know that there is usually a stated problem in (someone's) mind.  If one gets the problem written on a piece of paper - and one asks the owner of that problem (which as written could be invisible to everyone else if in a group, or shared) to place that problem somewhere in the room or outside. Then to ask the person to place themselves where they need to be.... Then the facilitator can ask 'clean space' questions about the space between - One of the questions  is: and what do you know about that from there? (the answers to those specific questions might turn out to cause the person being facilitated to 'move' or to place the problem in a different location, after which you would cycle back to the questions anew)...  it is a fascinating methodology... using the psychic space between... 
>> 
>> I am a novice interested person - it is something that evolved from David Grove's work in the therapeutic world - and is intensely interesting to me.  He evolved it after years of working using Clean Language questions with trauma patients - and it was also quite powerful. Unfortunately he died rather suddenly in 2008. Also, he didn't write much - because he was so busy trying to perfect what he was already so good at - by practicing. He wasn't interested in writing much and left that to others who followed him around...
>> 
>> The Power of Six, by Phillip Harland is quite the definitive introduction to the technique.  We not only have embodied feelings, but we perceive space in different ways as part of our thinking - though much is unconscious.   This technique surfaces so much by acknowledging space as an attribute.... 
>> 
>> Throwing this into the mix if anyone wants to explore or learn along those lines...  
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Andrea
>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>> Hi all!
>>> 
>>> I am writing today to learn from you and invite you to contribute to a learning journey into the world of "mindful movement".
>>> 
>>> For the past year I have been on a journey to learn about and experiment with the practice of "mindful  movement" - as a practitioner and a facilitator.
>>> 
>>> I am interested to learn if any of you "use" any movement or "body awareness" practices in your work as facilitators, coaches, etc, or for yourself or in other worlds that you may inhabit. 
>>> 
>>> Additionally, I am curious if you have any interest in experimenting with incorporating movement or embodied awareness into your work. I won't suggest for what applications or in what manner yet, as this is part of my open-ended R&D process. I have some ideas, but I want to learn your impressions, experiences, needs, and questions first. 
>>> 
>>> If you would like to share anything in this thread, or if you would like to have a separate email/video/phone chat with me - I would LOVE to speak with you :) 
>>> 
>>> Ultimately, I am looking to engage with a handful of "people who work with people" to experiment with some movement practices and see if we can develop anything of value that can be built upon and passed on to others. At the same time a colleague of mine, Magalie of Dancing Without Borders, will be doing the same thing with a group of people and we will be comparing notes. Magalie's focus is on working 1:1 with "visionary leaders" focused on "new paradigm" work...though I do believe that is all of us! 
>>> 
>>> If this does not make sense in any way, please do not hesitate to ask me for clarification - many thanks in advance! 
>>> 
>>> Tricia Chirumbole
>>> Facilitator. Coach. Champion.
>>> 
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