[OSList] There is no such thing as open space (Jeff Aitken via OSList)

Agustín via OSList oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
Thu Nov 12 05:46:56 PST 2015


I agree that opening space is about opening the mind and the heart, but also the will.

Agustin

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> El 10/11/2015, a las 3:31 a.m., Carmela Ariza via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> escribió:
> 
> I think opening space is about opening the mind and even the heart. 
> 
> So it is possible to say that in a certain moment the space or mind is close.
> 
> And in other instances the space or mind is open or has been opened.
> 
> This can refer to the collective space or collective mind/heart - which may be open or close to varying degrees. 
> 
> The closing May also mean that the space or mind has zeroed in or has focused or has settled. 
> 
> In this sense closing is not at all negative. It is just a process that is necessary when we are opening spaces or minds. 
> 
> The closing or settling down of the space or mind and heart is an opening of space or mind/heart. 
> 
> They belong together. One cannot be without the other.
> 
> These are my thoughts for now. 
> 
> Have a wonderful opening and closing of spaces today! 
> 
> Abundant blessings to all!
> 
> Carms
> 
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> On Tuesday, November 10, 2015, 9:09 AM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> 
> Going for a walk is a pretty good way to expand space, or as some say, 
> make more space... going for a walk is in some ways similar to taking a 
> break and there are stories around the origin of OST emerging from 
> breaks...
> 
> lets all have some more space today
> greetings from Berlin
> mmp
> 
> 
> On 09.11.2015 23:36, Jeff Aitken via OSList wrote:
> > I guess the research here is whether the process called Open Space
> > Technology is sufficient to enable a successful experience of Open
> > Space. They are two distinct 'things' so to speak.
> >
> > So far, the survey says mostly yes. And lots of learning about pre-work
> > etc, and convergence design etc. With the intent to minimize the
> > 'control, denigration' etc that Jon notes.
> >
> > One 'distraction' failure i found was an informal group of 15 who posted
> > tons of topics and found no good way to choose how to address them.
> > Usually in this kind of agenda, combining topics makes sense of it, but
> > on this day twas all a jumble. We all went for a walk instead, and in
> > that sense a success emerged from the ashes.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > On Nov 9, 2015 1:58 PM, "Jon Jorgensen via OSList"
> > <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >    I don't know what the person in Dan's story actually was referring
> >    to, but I have a hunch that they were referring to the fact that, as
> >    far as science can tell, there is no amount of physical space that
> >    is entirely occupied with physical particles (of the sub-atomic
> >    persuasion or otherwise) with no space in between them, and
> >    conversely we can guess that there is no amount of space that is
> >    completely void of particles.  (This can only be confirmed as the
> >    frontier of science continues to go deeper below the atomic level.)
> >
> >    So, if this is true, then we can say that in the physical realm,
> >    there is no totally open space and no totally closed space; only
> >    relative degrees between the 2 extremes as we scale or descale our
> >    frame of reference (or "Container" to borrow a metaphor from the HSD
> >    model.)
> >
> >    It gets even more interesting as we apply this axiom to the
> >    cognitive realm, which is to say that if we cannot be absolute in
> >    holding space open, then how much is enough or not enough to suit
> >    our purposes?  I believe that our results will tell us, and the
> >    amount may vary depending on the theme, setting and event attendees.
> >
> >    How much distraction is endurable, while still allowing growth,
> >    creativity and transformation?
> >    How much external control, denigration of individuals, conflict and
> >    anxiety is enough to nip these fruits of open space in the bud?
> >
> >    Aren't these the things which the facilitator endeavors to hold at
> >    bay, to create a clearing for something new to sprout and flourish
> >    within?
> >
> >    We would need some failed attempts at Opening Space, which were
> >    markedly unfruitful, to demonstrate such a threshold (how much or
> >    how little is enough) to answer these questions.
> >
> >    Now, that sounds like an unpleasant experiment to design and
> >    conduct.  However, if anybody has inadvertently stumbled on the
> >    answer, I would love to learn vicariously.
> >
> >    Till then, let us also say, "There is no such thing as fully closed
> >    space."
> >
> >    Jon Jorgensen
> >
> >
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> >        I like the term 'opening space' --  endeavoring that the space
> >        be a little
> >        (or lot) more open than before.
> >
> >        Maybe the practice is a lifelong one, of opening the space a bit
> >        more in
> >        each cycle of day, week, month, or year, etc.
> >
> >        Really deep folks might tell us when the space will be
> >        completely open
> >        again - in a zillion years - or maybe in this moment?
> >
> >        Jeff
> >        Lagunitas, California
> >        On Nov 8, 2015 10:24 AM, "Barry Owen via OSList" <
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> >          >> Someone I love said to me "Pffft. There's no such thing as
> >        open space."
> >          >>
> >          >> I added, "Hmm. So there is no such thing as open space? only
> >        closed
> >          >> space?......opened to varying degrees?"
> >          >>
> >          >> And she said "Yes. Yup. That's it."
> >          >>
> >          >> Hmm. No such thing as "100% open" space... I wonder about
> >        this. I also
> >          >> wonder if you might want to comment on this idea.
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> >        I like that Jeff! Having just returned from the land of the ?Tao
> >        te Ching? ... where following The Way leads to nothingness.
> >        Clearly, real open space happens when you stop working so
> >        hard... or something.
> >
> >
> >
> >        After 5 wonderful days with colleagues in Beijing, I find myself
> >        smiling as the jet lag recedes. For a gift I brought my friends
> >        a copy of Chris Corrigan?s ?The Tao of Holding Space.? I offered
> >        it with a smile, knowing from whence the Tao had come. Sort of
> >        like carrying coals to New Castle. Or Tulip Bulbs to Holland. Or
> >        perfume to Paris... Or...
> >
> >
> >
> >        I told my friends in Beijing that, for me, the Tao te Ching was
> >        the most wonderful guide to holding and opening space. It was
> >        written (to the best of anybody?s knowledge) about 1200 BCE.
> >        That would be better than 3000 years ago. Been around for a bit.
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> >
> >        I like the term 'opening space' --  endeavoring that the space
> >        be a little (or lot) more open than before.
> >
> >        Maybe the practice is a lifelong one, of opening the space a bit
> >        more in each cycle of day, week, month, or year, etc.
> >
> >        Really deep folks might tell us when the space will be
> >        completely open again - in a zillion years - or maybe in this
> >        moment?
> >
> >        Jeff
> >        Lagunitas, California
> >
> >        On Nov 8, 2015 10:24 AM, "Barry Owen via OSList"
> >        <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >        <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
> >
> >        Yes!
> >
> >        It's all relative . . .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >        Barry Owen
> >        Real Estate Strategist
> >
> >        Founder/Principal Broker
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> >        Someone I love said to me "Pffft. There's no such thing as open
> >        space."
> >
> >        I added, "Hmm. So there is no such thing as open space? only
> >        closed space?......opened to varying degrees?"
> >
> >        And she said "Yes. Yup. That's it."
> >
> >        Hmm. No such thing as "100% open" space... I wonder about this.
> >        I also wonder if you might want to comment on this idea.
> >
> >        Is the "no such thing as open space" idea heresy-in-fact?
> >
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> >        Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 20:10:43 -0400
> >        From: Jaime Pedreros Fitzgerald via OSList
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> >        Hello dear Space Openers,
> >
> >        The other day I was talking with a collegue who is an university
> >        staff
> >        member here in La Paz. I told him (what follows is a result of
> >        my daring
> >        ignorance) that most of the development in social sciences and
> >        human groups
> >        evolution study is closely based/related onto Isaac Newton's
> >        Universal
> >        Gravitation Theory and the emerging laws that are being refined
> >        until our
> >        days (quantitaive change and analysis and so forth). Well, the
> >        time is
> >        appropiate for a change or shift and we are thinking now in terms of
> >        relativity, as Harrison wisely said. Acoording to the ancient Greek
> >        Mythology, passion was represented by the god Eros when he
> >        contributed to
> >        the creation of the universe from Chaos, that was the first
> >        thing to exist:
> >        So, Chaos is the origin of everything and is also an initial
> >        stage in the
> >        process of opening the space. The universe is infinite or it
> >        expands?
> >        Anyway, we are all relatively expanding ourselves; the space, as the
> >        universe is and will be opened. The question we are discussing now
> >        demonstrates this. Are our minds an Open Space?
> >
> >        Have a  big hug from Bolivia.
> >
> >        Jaime Pedreros F,
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> >        Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 21:39:35 -0500
> >        From: Lucas Cioffi via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
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> >        Dear Colleagues -
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> >        The OSLIST Poetry Contest is open once again!  If you feel so
> >        inspired,
> >        please create an original poem using these three guidelines:
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> >        1) The poem is about Open Space
> >        2) The poem consists of 8 lines or less.
> >        3) The poem contains all 26 letters of the English alphabet (or
> >        all the
> >        letters of the language you write the poem in) at least once.
> >        If your
> >        language does not have an alphabet, then you can skip/ignore
> >        this guideline.
> >
> >
> >        *Send your poetry directly to me (not to the whole list) at
> >        lucas at qiqochat.com <mailto:lucas at qiqochat.com>
> >        <lucas at qiqochat.com <mailto:lucas at qiqochat.com>> before the end
> >        of Sunday, November
> >        22nd.*
> >
> >        I will collect the poems and then show them back to you
> >        anonymously, dear
> >        readers - so you may indicate your favorites - even though this
> >        is not a
> >        game of favorites. It is a gift of riches.  It will, however,
> >        tell us who
> >        our new Poet Laureate of the OSLIST will be - someone who will
> >        hold the
> >        space for poetry by sharing and/or inviting poetry on our list
> >        for the next
> >        six months.
> >
> >        All of you OSLIST members, including past Poet Laureates, are
> >        invited to
> >        participate.  If you write your poem in your own language which
> >        may not be
> >        English, please do add a translation in English.
> >
> >        I welcome all your fierce and quiet words,
> >
> >        Lucas Cioffi
> >        Current OSLIST Poet Laureate
> >        Charlottesville, VA, USA
> >        - with a deep bow to my fellow Poet Laureates
> >
> >        - - - - -
> >
> >        A little history, from Chris Corrigan:
> >
> >          > ?For all those who might be curious, the OSLIST Biannual
> >        Restricted Form
> >          > Poetry Contest started in the spring of 2000 when I issued
> >        the challenge to
> >          > the list.  Ralph Copleman actually began the whole thing with
> >        a contest in
> >          > the fall of 1999 (which I won) and so he is the ?Poetry King?
> >        for all
> >          > time.  I just claimed the ?Poet Laureate? title in an effort
> >        to have some
> >          > fun.  It was something of a one martini idea, and I was out
> >        of gin at the
> >          > time...?
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> >
> >        Message: 5
> >        Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 18:58:47 +0100
> >        From: Hege Steinsland via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >        <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> >        To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> >                  <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >        <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> >        Subject: [OSList] research
> >        Message-ID: <95EB8ADB-E8E1-454F-965A-FD6E794E6C6B at gmail.com
> >        <mailto:95EB8ADB-E8E1-454F-965A-FD6E794E6C6B at gmail.com>>
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> >
> >        Dear list friends and colleagues in Open Space and Genuine Contact!
> >
> >        I?m working on a possible research project in the health sector
> >        in municipalities to find out how Open Space and The Genuine
> >        Contact program can be a resource in enabling a shift in the way
> >        of leading and solving the tasks with growing challenges and
> >        reduced resources.
> >
> >        My question now is if there is some relevant research that you
> >        know of from the Genuine Contact program or Open space
> >        technology for us to refer to in out application?
> >
> >        All the best from
> >        Hege Steinsland
> >        Norway :-)
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> >
> >        Message: 6
> >        Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2015 15:33:35 -0500
> >        From: Harrison Owen via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >        <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> >        To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
> >                  <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >        <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> >        Subject: [OSList] Mercedes China
> >        Message-ID: <000601d11b2d$e876c0b0$b9644210$@net>
> >        Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >        While I was having fun with Mrs. Song and all of her guests in
> >        Beijing, a
> >        funny thing was happening nearby. It seems that the Mercedes
> >        head office for
> >        China was having a big do and some significant part of it was
> >        all in Open
> >        Space. I only learned of it when two gentlemen, whom I didn't
> >        know, dropped
> >        by. One was from Brazil, and the other from Italy and they were
> >        somehow
> >        responsible. Talk about not having all the facts! But I do know
> >        the Mercedes
> >        gathering was a pretty big deal, if only because the Mayor of
> >        Beijing was
> >        present. And that was just the tip of the iceberg because then
> >        the Premier
> >        of China showed up. And of course the Press was in attendance.
> >        Anyhow the
> >        evening news (Chinese TV version) was replete with the Premier
> >        in Open
> >        Space, surrounded by the appropriate signs, I'm told. Of course
> >        I couldn't
> >        read them, but I did see the pictures.
> >
> >
> >
> >        Harrison
> >
> >
> >
> >        Winter Address
> >
> >        7808 River Falls Drive
> >
> >        Potomac, MD 20854
> >
> >        301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>
> >
> >
> >
> >        Summer Address
> >
> >        189 Beaucaire Ave.
> >
> >        Camden, ME 04843
> >
> >        207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>
> >
> >
> >
> >        Websites
> >
> >        www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
> >
> >        www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
> >
> >        OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the
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> >
> >        Message: 7
> >        Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 22:36:44 +0200
> >        From: Mikk Sarv via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >        <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> >        To: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net
> >        <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>>, World wide Open Space
> >                  Technology email list  <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >        <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> >        Subject: Re: [OSList] Mercedes China
> >        Message-ID: <6531AAD8-041B-49A4-9975-F0085180281D at gmail.com
> >        <mailto:6531AAD8-041B-49A4-9975-F0085180281D at gmail.com>>
> >        Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> >        Great news!
> >
> >        Mikk Sarv
> >
> >
> >
> >          > On 09 Nov 2015, at 22:33, Harrison Owen via OSList
> >        <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >        <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
> >          >
> >          > While I was having fun with Mrs. Song and all of her guests
> >        in Beijing, a funny thing was happening nearby. It seems that
> >        the Mercedes head office for China was having a big do and some
> >        significant part of it was all in Open Space. I only learned of
> >        it when two gentlemen, whom I didn?t know, dropped by. One was
> >        from Brazil, and the other from Italy and they were somehow
> >        responsible. Talk about not having all the facts! But I do know
> >        the Mercedes gathering was a pretty big deal, if only because
> >        the Mayor of Beijing was present. And that was just the tip of
> >        the iceberg because then the Premier of China showed up. And of
> >        course the Press was in attendance. Anyhow the evening news
> >        (Chinese TV version) was replete with the Premier in Open Space,
> >        surrounded by the appropriate signs, I?m told. Of course I
> >        couldn?t read them, but I did see the pictures.
> >          >
> >          > Harrison
> >          >
> >          > Winter Address
> >          > 7808 River Falls Drive
> >          > Potomac, MD 20854
> >          > 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>
> >          >
> >          > Summer Address
> >          > 189 Beaucaire Ave.
> >          > Camden, ME 04843
> >          > 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>
> >          >
> >          > Websites
> >          > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
> >        <x-msg://43/%20www.openspaceworld.com
> >        <http://20www.openspaceworld.com>>
> >          > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
> >        <x-msg://43/www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>>
> >          > OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view
> >        the archives of OSLIST Go
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> >
> >        Message: 8
> >        Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 15:56:30 -0500
> >        From: Skye Hirst via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >        <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> >        To: Mikk Sarv <tuulepuu at gmail.com <mailto:tuulepuu at gmail.com>>,
> >            World wide Open Space Technology
> >                  email list      <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >        <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> >        Subject: Re: [OSList] Mercedes China
> >        Message-ID:
> >
> >        <CAKeWO=bw+jaxw96VdjawPh4jfxxdkwpaNxL4DF3Qv2b9prdFDA at mail.gmail.com
> >        <mailto:bw%2Bjaxw96VdjawPh4jfxxdkwpaNxL4DF3Qv2b9prdFDA at mail.gmail.com>>
> >        Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> >        What a great birthday present!
> >
> >        On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Mikk Sarv via OSList <
> >        oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >        <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
> >
> >          > Great news!
> >          >
> >          > Mikk Sarv
> >          >
> >          >
> >          >
> >          > On 09 Nov 2015, at 22:33, Harrison Owen via OSList <
> >          > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >        <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
> >          >
> >          > While I was having fun with Mrs. Song and all of her guests
> >        in Beijing, a
> >          > funny thing was happening nearby. It seems that the Mercedes
> >        head office
> >          > for China was having a big do and some significant part of it
> >        was all in
> >          > Open Space. I only learned of it when two gentlemen, whom I
> >        didn?t know,
> >          > dropped by. One was from Brazil, and the other from Italy and
> >        they were
> >          > somehow responsible. Talk about not having all the facts! But
> >        I do know the
> >          > Mercedes gathering was a pretty big deal, if only because the
> >        Mayor of
> >          > Beijing was present. And that was just the tip of the iceberg
> >        because then
> >          > the Premier of China showed up. And of course the Press was
> >        in attendance.
> >          > Anyhow the evening news (Chinese TV version) was replete with
> >        the Premier
> >          > in Open Space, surrounded by the appropriate signs, I?m told.
> >        Of course I
> >          > couldn?t read them, but I did see the pictures.
> >          >
> >          > Harrison
> >          >
> >          > Winter Address
> >          > 7808 River Falls Drive
> >          > Potomac, MD 20854
> >          > 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>
> >          >
> >          > Summer Address
> >          > 189 Beaucaire Ave.
> >          > Camden, ME 04843
> >          > 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>
> >          >
> >          > Websites
> >          > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
> >          > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com>
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