[OSList] What's Open Space got to do with Group Relations?

Daniel Mezick via OSList oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
Thu Dec 10 16:28:30 PST 2015


Michael,

Thanks for your response to my post about Group Relations. Have you 
attended many of these?

There is more than a little irony in the assertion that "nothing is 100%."

Can you see why?

Regards,
Daniel

On 12/10/15 5:19 PM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
> Dear Dan,
>
> reading through the "items", I see nothing I specifically associate 
> with open space.
>
> --- Nothing is 100%
> --- all  os events I have seen are highly structured
> --- All kinds of things are potentially triggering
> --- Everything is about leadership and authority and other stuff
> --- I dont know what an exercise in self-organisation is, sounds like 
> an oxymoron to me since everything is self-organizing
>
> etc.
>
> Thinking of the force of selforganisation (totally free even though it 
> might be intoxicating) as a unique characteristic of os events would 
> also be strange since the force acts everywhere... but intentionally 
> seeing to it that the prerequisites for the less hampered unfolding of 
> the force are in place I would suggest is a unique characteristic. 
> Especially when it is done without being attached to any outcome (that 
> attachment is just another variance of control and thats poison to the 
> froce)... so not aiming to achieve stuff like high performance, fun, 
> participation, action, etc might also be a characteristic. And 
> certainly a crazy idea for most folks having to invest time and money 
> and etc. for something not being aiming at a certain outcome. Aiming 
> at expanding time and space for the force of selforganisation to fully 
> do its thing might create heaven knows what... how would you explain 
> that to the Dean, the boss, the Board of Directors, the shareholders, 
> the press....
>
> mulling over this it becomes clear again: just go ahead and open space...
>
> Greetings from Berlin where we will have our extraordinary holiday 
> Stammtisch on Thursday, Dec 17, starting at 7pm at our regular hang out
>> http://www.kreuzberger-weltlaterne.de/
>
> I just sent out the invitation and folks are responding... so if you 
> happen to be in town, drop in, os pure and basic, no topic, no 
> facilitator, no proceedings... and be prepared to be surprised!
>
> ciao
> mmp
>
>
>
> On 10.12.2015 22:48, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:
>> OK. Good one. Like.
>>
>> But wait. Aren't those similarities just really juicy? What about those?
>>
>> On 12/10/15 4:36 PM, Jeff Aitken wrote:
>>>
>>> As Harrison often says, these other folks work way too hard...
>>>
>>> On Dec 10, 2015 1:21 PM, "Jeff Aitken" <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi Dan,
>>>
>>>     This may be a difference:
>>>
>>>     Easy to facilitate such that the facilitator can take a nap, pick
>>>     up coffee cups, and hold space in the hotel bar until the closing
>>>     which requires a higher level of attention?
>>>
>>>     : )
>>>
>>>     Jeff
>>>
>>>     On Dec 10, 2015 12:21 PM, "Daniel Mezick via OSList"
>>>     <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>>     <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Not to mention the 100% present-tense, "here and now"
>>>         orientation of both Open Space and GR Conferences
>>>
>>>         On 12/10/15 3:15 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:
>>>>         What's Open Space got to do with Group Relations?
>>>>
>>>>         Wait. What is Group Relations?
>>>>
>>>>         It's this, and this:
>>>>         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENHO1yUtCRo
>>>> http://www.tavinstitute.org/what-we-offer/group-relations/
>>>>
>>>>         So: What's Open Space got to do with Group Relations?
>>>>
>>>>         Probably nothing, right?
>>>>
>>>>         Wait. Let's inspect some of the facts:
>>>>
>>>>         Item
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Open Space events?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Group Relations events?
>>>>
>>>>         100% Experiential Learning
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Yes
>>>>
>>>>         Very lightly structured
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Yes
>>>>
>>>>         Potentially triggering
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Yes
>>>>
>>>>         About leadership and authority
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Yes
>>>>
>>>>         An exercise in self-organization
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Yes
>>>>
>>>>         Self-selecting groups
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Yes
>>>>
>>>>         Strictly opt-in participation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Yes
>>>>
>>>>         Possessing a “spectator sport” dimension..watching others
>>>>         watching, etc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Yes
>>>>
>>>>         Insanely efficient as a learning device
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         Who else has attended a Group Relations conference?
>>>>
>>>>         It is a fact that Group Relations theory and practice deeply
>>>>         informs the structure of Prime/OS, which in turn is the basis
>>>>         of OSA:
>>>>         http://www.Prime-OS.com
>>>>
>>>>         --
>>>>         Daniel Mezick
>>>>         Culture Strategist. Author. Keynoter.
>>>>         (203) 915 7248 <tel:%28203%29%20915%207248>. Bio.
>>>>         <http://www.DanielMezick.com/> Blog.
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>>>>         Book: The Culture Game. <http://theculturegame.com/>
>>>>         Book: The OpenSpace Agility Handbook.
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>>>>
>>>>
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