[OSList] What's Open Space got to do with Group Relations?
Daniel Mezick via OSList
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Thu Dec 10 16:28:30 PST 2015
Michael,
Thanks for your response to my post about Group Relations. Have you
attended many of these?
There is more than a little irony in the assertion that "nothing is 100%."
Can you see why?
Regards,
Daniel
On 12/10/15 5:19 PM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
> Dear Dan,
>
> reading through the "items", I see nothing I specifically associate
> with open space.
>
> --- Nothing is 100%
> --- all os events I have seen are highly structured
> --- All kinds of things are potentially triggering
> --- Everything is about leadership and authority and other stuff
> --- I dont know what an exercise in self-organisation is, sounds like
> an oxymoron to me since everything is self-organizing
>
> etc.
>
> Thinking of the force of selforganisation (totally free even though it
> might be intoxicating) as a unique characteristic of os events would
> also be strange since the force acts everywhere... but intentionally
> seeing to it that the prerequisites for the less hampered unfolding of
> the force are in place I would suggest is a unique characteristic.
> Especially when it is done without being attached to any outcome (that
> attachment is just another variance of control and thats poison to the
> froce)... so not aiming to achieve stuff like high performance, fun,
> participation, action, etc might also be a characteristic. And
> certainly a crazy idea for most folks having to invest time and money
> and etc. for something not being aiming at a certain outcome. Aiming
> at expanding time and space for the force of selforganisation to fully
> do its thing might create heaven knows what... how would you explain
> that to the Dean, the boss, the Board of Directors, the shareholders,
> the press....
>
> mulling over this it becomes clear again: just go ahead and open space...
>
> Greetings from Berlin where we will have our extraordinary holiday
> Stammtisch on Thursday, Dec 17, starting at 7pm at our regular hang out
>> http://www.kreuzberger-weltlaterne.de/
>
> I just sent out the invitation and folks are responding... so if you
> happen to be in town, drop in, os pure and basic, no topic, no
> facilitator, no proceedings... and be prepared to be surprised!
>
> ciao
> mmp
>
>
>
> On 10.12.2015 22:48, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:
>> OK. Good one. Like.
>>
>> But wait. Aren't those similarities just really juicy? What about those?
>>
>> On 12/10/15 4:36 PM, Jeff Aitken wrote:
>>>
>>> As Harrison often says, these other folks work way too hard...
>>>
>>> On Dec 10, 2015 1:21 PM, "Jeff Aitken" <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dan,
>>>
>>> This may be a difference:
>>>
>>> Easy to facilitate such that the facilitator can take a nap, pick
>>> up coffee cups, and hold space in the hotel bar until the closing
>>> which requires a higher level of attention?
>>>
>>> : )
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On Dec 10, 2015 12:21 PM, "Daniel Mezick via OSList"
>>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not to mention the 100% present-tense, "here and now"
>>> orientation of both Open Space and GR Conferences
>>>
>>> On 12/10/15 3:15 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList wrote:
>>>> What's Open Space got to do with Group Relations?
>>>>
>>>> Wait. What is Group Relations?
>>>>
>>>> It's this, and this:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENHO1yUtCRo
>>>> http://www.tavinstitute.org/what-we-offer/group-relations/
>>>>
>>>> So: What's Open Space got to do with Group Relations?
>>>>
>>>> Probably nothing, right?
>>>>
>>>> Wait. Let's inspect some of the facts:
>>>>
>>>> Item
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Open Space events?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Group Relations events?
>>>>
>>>> 100% Experiential Learning
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>> Very lightly structured
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>> Potentially triggering
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>> About leadership and authority
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>> An exercise in self-organization
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>> Self-selecting groups
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>> Strictly opt-in participation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>> Possessing a “spectator sport” dimension..watching others
>>>> watching, etc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>> Insanely efficient as a learning device
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Who else has attended a Group Relations conference?
>>>>
>>>> It is a fact that Group Relations theory and practice deeply
>>>> informs the structure of Prime/OS, which in turn is the basis
>>>> of OSA:
>>>> http://www.Prime-OS.com
>>>>
>>>> --
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