[OSList] OST: Public vs Private events: apples and oranges?

Daniel Mezick via OSList oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
Sun Apr 26 10:43:08 PDT 2015


Yo Harrison,

Where are you lately hearing about 'scaling up' OST?

I'm interested in knowing the origin of that.

Daniel

On 4/26/15 12:12 PM, Harrison via OSList wrote:
>
> To add a bit... The 4 (actually 5) “preconditions” were simply what I, 
> and others, had observed to be the situation. I can’t actually 
> remember, but I think my original motivation was to question what 
> seemed to be the conventional wisdom regarding what it took to have a 
> good meeting. I think we all know the drill – there should be a clear 
> agenda, closely ordered procedure, something close to absolute 
> control, and the like. With thoughts like these in mind, Open Space 
> was not only counterintuitive, but wrong, dangerous, and obviously 
> heretical. What we were experiencing was definitely a horse of a 
> different color.
>
> And yes, Jeff, there is certainly no “requirement” that all conditions 
> be at maximum red alert. That said, if none are present there would 
> seem to be little reason have a meeting, let alone Open Space. After 
> all who would want to waste the time when there was no business issue, 
> everything was crystal clear, everyone thought exactly the same way, 
> no passion or conflict, and the sense of urgency non-existent? Sounds 
> like a non-starter to me. Then again it constantly amazes me that 
> every day in organizations all over the world folks hold meetings just 
> because you are supposed to. Is it any wonder that people are bored, 
> disengaged, and cynical?
>
> But actually what really got me excited was when I realized that my “5 
> Preconditions” almost exactly paralleled the essential preconditions 
> for self organization as described by Stuart Kauffmann and others. 
> That made a connection which produced my greatest learning in and 
> about Open Space. It is all self organization. It is not a process 
> we/I created, invented, or whatever. All we actually “do” is to invite 
> people to remember what they have been doing for ever. Well at least 
> for the last 13.7 billion years.
>
> And just for a tag line .... to those who might be thinking about 
> “scaling up” Open Space, I would suggest you save your energy. It’s 
> already happened. It is all self organizing. It is all open space. Of 
> course it is true that things get pretty sloppy and gooey when we set 
> about organizing a self organizing system. Oh well.
>
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> *From:*OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On 
> Behalf Of *Jeff Aitken via OSList
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:31 AM
> *To:* Daniel Mezick; World wide Open Space Technology email list
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] OST: Public vs Private events: apples and oranges?
>
> Hi Daniel. When Harrison's four conditions came out way back when, I 
> imagined them as a way to tell a client that even in the most 
> challenging situation it's quite possible that Open Space will work 
> very well. In other words, don't hesitate to consider it, even if 
> you're afraid things are just too messy to try this strange new process.
>
> Having hosted and seen many great open spaces in which the scores were 
> low, so to speak,  I never took seriously that these are absolute 
> preconditions. To me they are a kind of inoculation against a 
> prospective sponsor being afraid to make that phone call or send that 
> email.
>
> With lots of appreciation for your good work
>
> Jeff
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> Lagunitas, California
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Daniel Mezick via OSList
> Date:04/26/2015 6:20 AM (GMT-08:00)
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: [OSList] OST: Public vs Private events: apples and oranges?
>
> Greetings All,
>
> ...I notice these well-worn, well-understood set of starting 
> conditions for great Open Space, on Wikipedia...hmm...
>
> <WIKIPEDIA>
> Hundreds of Open Space meetings have been documented.^[4] 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology#cite_note-4>[5] 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology#cite_note-5> 
> Harrison Owen explains that this approach works best when these 
> conditions are present,^[3] 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology#cite_note-OST-3> 
> namely high levels of
>
>  1. /Complexity/, in terms of the tasks to be done or outcomes achieved;
>  2. /Diversity/, in terms of the people involved and/or needed to make
>     any solution work;
>  3. /Conflict, real or potential/, meaning people really care about
>     the central issue or purpose; and
>  4. /Urgency/, meaning that the time to act was "yesterday".
>
> </WIKIPEDIA>
>
>
> In an organization, we could work with formally authorized leaders to 
> gauge the magnitude of each dimension. So for example we could gauge 
> or rank the magnitude, with 1 being lowest and 10 being the highest 
> magnitude for gauging each dimension. For a really nice opportunity to 
> use Open Space, we might be looking for a combined score of, say, 32 
> or higher (out of a possible 40)
>
>
>
> The Public Conference Event
>
> Now let's consider the PUBLIC conference event. What is the typical 
> combined score in a public conference... for these 4 elements? I am 
> guessing the combined score is something like 20 or lower for the 
> typical conference event. Maybe 25 out of a perfect 40? The cohesion 
> is just (generally speaking!) /so much lower/ in a public vs org-based 
> (private) event...
>
>
> <HERESY>
> And that is why I think OST is for "development and transformation in 
> organizations" (that actual subtitle of the SPIRIT book) and that it 
> is not at all as effective, in terms of impact, when implemented in a 
> public conference.
> </HERESY>
>
> I am guessing the scores for the 4 dimensions are almost always be 
> lower in a public vs. private event.
>
> Certainly that is my general subjective observation, based on a small 
> sample of direct experience (less than 20 experiences doing OST inside 
> corporations...)
>
> ...Yes: some exceptions do exist. As is almost always the case. Right? 
> That said, I feel these exceptions prove the general rule... that 
> private events have a much higher combined score, all else being equal.
>
> Ironically, the OST format was originally formulated to ease the 
> effort required to arrange and execute public conference events.
>
> And then....
>
>
> Daniel
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