[OSList] Private vs Public OST Differences?
Daniel Mezick via OSList
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Fri Oct 17 10:14:49 PDT 2014
Hi Michael,
I hear you, saying:
"I've seen very loose corporate add-on events"
..and then I also hear you saying:
I've seen...very productive and long-lived action (spanning years and
continents) come from open public conferences.
I do not hear you saying this:
"I've seen very loose corporate add-on events generate very productive
and long-lived action spanning years"
I wonder if you are saying this.
Daniel
On 10/17/14 10:15 AM, Michael Herman wrote:
> Not sure the differences you articulate have anything to do with
> public and private, Daniel. It's about the different structures. I've
> seen very loose corporate add-on events and very productive and
> long-lived action (spanning years and continents) come from open
> public conferences. So id say structure matters much more than setting.
>
>
> On Friday, October 17, 2014, Daniel Mezick via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>
> Greetings Christine,
>
> Thanks for your detailed reply. I must admit, I have no experience
> whatsoever with doing quasi-public OST events arranged for guilds,
> industry-associations and the like. I'm clueless!
>
> As such, my opinion does not have much (if any) validity about
> those use cases. I do have some theories however, and I hope I can
> ask some questions about OST for guilds & industry associations...
>
> I see it like this:
>
> (1) At one extreme end of the spectrum, there is the very private,
> business-org-specific event. A kind of big-family system.
>
> (2) At the other extreme, there is the totally public conference
> that anyone can attend, if they pay the money...
>
> * It is an event that has some Open Space of varying
> quality, in 1/2 day, full day or multiple day formats.
> * It may of may not have a Sponsor, it may of may not have
> Proceedings. It may or may not have posters on the wall.
> If it has Proceedings at all, they are often late.
> * "Agile" conferences are commonly at found at this end of
> the range.
>
>
> My theory is that quasi-public OST events for and with guilds,
> industry associations and the like lie somewhere in the middle of
> these two extremes. And I can certainly imagine (theorize) how
> these events take on the look, feel, tone, temp and flavor of the
> very private, business-org-specific event. They might even
> effectively BE private events. It's not like anyone with the fee
> (if any) can just waltz into the meeting right?
>
>
> And so, for now, I want to set these quasi-public OST events
> aside, and/or characterize them as private events. Is that OK?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> And so, referring to (1) and (2) above, I continue to see very
> huge differences between these two ways to use Open Space.
>
> Like, the difference between Night and Day.
>
>
> Here's one of those very striking differences: in
> public-conference events where OST is an add-on in 1/2 or full day
> formats, getting good Proceedings is difficult. Or impossible. The
> Proceedings are typically late and poorly formatted, or more
> commonly: /non-existent./
>
> Yet inside private events, you can't pull the people off the task
> of Proceedings creation. The task attracts them like a magnet.
> They typically wave off any offers of help and take an absolutely
> huge interest in the Proceedings generation. They rivet on it.
>
>
>
> And this is just one example. There are many more BIG differences.
> And so I continue to assert that for public-conference events
> where OST is a full day or 1/2 day add-on, a Barcamp or
> Unconference can and does get equivalent, similar, as-good results.
>
> Stated another way, Barcamp and/or Unconference can never do what
> Open Space does for organizations. And that's because Open Space
> is optimized for enabling "development and transformation in
> organizations. "
>
> And those other two aren't.
>
>
> Daniel
>
> PS I realize some public, paid, Agile conferences that feature
> all-day Open Space do a very good job with Proceedings. Yet this
> is clearly the exception, and not the rule where Agile conferences
> are concerned.
>
>
>
>
> On 10/15/14 11:43 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez wrote:
>> Daniel and all,
>>
>> In my experience, public events have the same buzz and meaningful
>> results as an in-organization OST. I’ve facilitated a number of
>> them that were sponsored by a group of organizations in the
>> community. For instance, Vibrant Phoenix
>> <http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/>, was a very
>> productive economic development OST, sponsored by two mayors of
>> large municipalities and several local businesses. One of the
>> business sponsors agreed to be the contact for folks who wanted
>> to take their “actionable ideas” to the next level. However,
>> there was no budget and no infrastructure to really keep folks
>> connected the the ideas they cared the most about.
>>
>> This is where the public open spaces generally fall short.
>> Because the ongoing action is not the core mission of any of
>> these organizations, it is hoped that the participants will
>> self-organize going forward. With very few exceptions, this does
>> not happen. I believe that sponsorship for the work after the
>> OST is what is called for.
>>
>> The Collective Impact
>> <http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work> model
>> speaks to this. It’s nothing new, really, but does represent a
>> simple way to talk about the necessary conditions for sustaining
>> collective action. I now include my version of this model when I
>> talk with potential sponsors to shine the light beyond the
>> meeting so that we can discuss their intentions for providing
>> backbone support for self-organized action going forward.
>>
>> I especially love public Open Space events and look forward to
>> working with sponsors who see the meeting as merely the first
>> small step in collaborative action. There is so much potential!
>>
>> Warm wishes from a sunny autumn morning in the rain-greened desert,
>>
>> Christine
>>
>> Christine Whitney Sanchez, M.C.
>> Phoenix,AZ, USA •+1.480.759.0262
>> www.innovationpartners.com <http://www.innovationpartners.com>
>>
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>>
>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
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>> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings To All,
>>
>> I notice that there are many big differences between
>> public-conference-type OST events, and OST events arranged for
>> organizations.
>>
>> Do you also notice this? Maybe I am imagining this....just making
>> stuff up...
>>
>> ...maybe not. In many key dimensions, I experience these
>> differences as striking. Even disturbing.
>>
>>
>>
>> And so I have been poking around inside the GUIDE (3rd edition)
>> and I notice that, in some spots, the implication is that the
>> discussion is about a public event. Up to page 18 for example,
>> this implication is clear:
>>
>>
>> <THE GUIDE PAGE 18>
>>
>> Working With The Client if you ARE NOT the Sponsor
>>
>> "To this point I have assumed that you (the reader) will be the
>> sponsor and facilitator of the Open Space, and therefore */it is
>> your decision as to whether or not to proceed/*...(/emphasis added./)
>>
>> </THE GUIDE PAGE 18>
>>
>>
>>
>> My current belief is that having the same person in the Sponsor
>> role **and** the Facilitator role is probably a very bad idea for
>> an OST event /inside an organization/. For the typical
>> public-conference event on the other hand, this seems to work
>> just fine. Kinda like a Barcamp or Unconference....
>>
>>
>> Another current belief I hold is that OST is the essential tool
>> for creating "Development and Transformation in Organizations".
>> It is best suited for use in organizations.
>>
>> It is interesting to note how the Barcamp and/or "Unconference"
>> formats seem to get the same or as-good results as Open Space, in
>> the public conference setting.
>>
>> Not so inside organizations! In fact, as of now, I don't think
>> Barcamp or Unconference has any chance whatsoever at being
>> effective in bringing about Development and Transformation in
>> Organizations the way Open Space can. Something about the Sponsor?
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
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