[OSList] From linkedin today

[christine koehler]

Hi Harrison,

Thank you for your answer

What do you mean exactely with the law of 2 feet ? I mean, if it's the only
way to make decisions, isn't it another way of keeping unabalnced
relationship? For instance, for me, having strategic meeting starting at 5
or 6pm is unfair because it makes those in charge of families to have to
struggle with balancing work/family issues. Anoter example : during the
open space I facilitated with women in politics, I heard stories about how
difficult political decisions are made : very often, discussion last for
hours and hours, throughout day and night. Often it ends in a bar, with
alcoool and cigars, and the agreement is reached in the middle of the
night. Those women say :" if you want to be someone in politics, you have
to behave like this, even as we, as women, pight not like it as much as men
seem to like it".  Other examples of decision with law of two feet for me
are the negociation with trade unions : you know that the first who leave
the table, even if it is avec 72hours of non-stop negociation, will loose.
 Well, although those are way of making decisions, are they "fair" ? Isn't
it logical that we try to have different processses for different
situations and that we try to make them explicit ?

christine


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:

> I’m awake now (Thank you Michael). And Christine – to your questions and
> my thoughts.
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> “In a  self -organized system, how do you keep the organization coherent
> as a whole ?
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> How do you make decisions that concern the whole organization ?”
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> I think the simple answer may be, “You don’t (make decisions or maintain
> coherency). The System does – which is in a way the essence of
> self-organization. I think one way of understanding self organization is
> that it is the systemic response to a changing environment in order to
> maintain internal and external coherence... a complicated way of saying
> that the system wants to get along in the world in a positive fashion. Part
> of maintaining that systemic coherence is by making a whole bunch of
> decisions – none, or few, of which are made by a vote or executive dictate.
> A powerful mechanism in this regard is our old friend, “The Law of Two
> feet.” – I think.
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> *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *christine koehler
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2014 5:30 PM
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> Harrison,
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> In a  self -organized system, how do you keep the organization coherent as
> a whole ?
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> How do you make decisions that concern the whole organization ?
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> Christine
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> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
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> Paul – This piece from Zappos is interesting indeed. Though I must say I
> do wonder why the Zapposites feel it necessary to organize a self
> organizing system? As they say, “In a city, people and businesses are
> self-organizing.” I agree, and why not just follow the beaten path?
> Holarchy is a wonderful concept, and a good description of what I think I
> experience in a self organizing system. But why go for a knock-off when you
> can have the original? Just let (invite) the system to self organize. It
> will work better, and costs a lot less effort. As Stuart Kauffman might
> say, “order for free.”
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> *Sent:* Monday, January 06, 2014 4:51 PM
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> Research shows that every time the size of a city doubles, innovation or
> productivity per resident increases by 15 percent. But when companies get
> bigger, innovation or productivity per employee generally goes down. So
> we're trying to figure out how to structure Zappos more like a city, and
> less like a bureaucratic corporation. In a city, people and businesses are
> self-organizing. We're trying to do the same thing by switching from a
> normal hierarchical structure to a system called Holacracy, which enables
> employees to act more like entrepreneurs and self-direct their work instead
> of reporting to a manager who tells them what to do.
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> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pam-ross/workplace-reinvention_b_4541805.html#<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pam-ross/workplace-reinvention_b_4541805.html>
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