[OSList] (was) Open Space in schools - now: OST boundaries? constraints?

[h.schmid]

Dear Lisa

I completely share your view concerning this subject!

The laws and principals make up the fundamental right of human 
selforganization and aren´t restricting in any way.

Even though the word law implicits a kind of restriction i have to point 
out that if u read it carefully you should come to the conclusion that 
this law is here to protect the right of human selforganization.

I only have to be part of a Roundtable as long as i feel/like to.

The principals represent nothing more than the freedom to accept an 
invitation to meet with others to talk about a certain topic.


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Am 30.09.2013 09:22, schrieb Lisa Heft:
> Dan - I have taken the liberty of adjusting the title of this topic to 
> more closely fit the changed content.
>
> And: I look forward to hearing how others respond...
>
> 1/ I see the Law and Principles and *invitations* not as constraints.
>
> 2/ And not 'required' as in - some of us do not use the 5th Principle 
> at all. However, the saying, inviting and simple explanation of these 
> invitations help to create the structure (as there is a structure, 
> just not the structure that a lot of people have experienced in 
> meetings) / to create the container. What I mean by that is that I 
> have observed that to not offer the invitation of the principles and 
> law (even in a group of people who completely know and do Open Space) 
> is not inviting presence and possibility in the same way. So different 
> dynamics then occur.
>
> And in saying that offering these invitations and explaining this 
> process help to create the container, I mean a living, breathing, 
> nutrient-rich container, perhaps similar to some containers like 
> cellular walls, a bird's nest, a lake, a poem, or a wisp of vapor... 
> which have some form within which there is flow.
>
> 3/ I notice that some super-good OST facilitators can use more words 
> to explain things, and some use less. And the experience can be 
> amazing. In my observation, it is not the amount of words, it is the 
> complete true understanding of inviting Opening Circle and agenda 
> co-creation (which include a brief explanation of principles and law 
> and process), and getting / staying out of the way so the participants 
> can do their own work, see their own patterns, feel their own 
> co-leadership, and so on.
>
> What do others think?
>
> Lisa
>
> On Sep 29, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Daniel Mezick <dan at newtechusa.net 
> <mailto:dan at newtechusa.net>> wrote:
>
>> Lisa says:
>> "...
>> The other thing is that for any kind of facilitation, I would not 
>> name boundaries or constraints. It sets peoples' minds in the 
>> framework of boundaries and constraints - rather than opportunities 
>> and possibilities.
>> Like 'think outside the box' - you are still thinking...of the box! 
>> when / because someone says that. "
>>
>> Dan says:
>> I notice that:
>> 1/  the 1 Law and 5 Principles of OST are constraints-in-fact. Are 
>> they not?
>> 2/ we are required to describe these as OST Facilitators; at least, 
>> according to the OST Guide. Right?
>> 3/ the general idea for the Facilitator is, "the less said the 
>> better".  No?
>>
>> I think OST is a most wonderful game. 
>> http://newtechusa.net/agile/how-games-deliver-happiness-learning/
>>
>> Dan
>
>
>
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