[OSList] Original Harrison Owen paper on "Organization Transformation"?

[Artur Silva]

Thanks for the link, Harold. Very interesting. It seams to me that much that is said there is still valid today. Maybe OT people were expecting changes in a direction that was not exactly the one that has been followed by the corporate word in this last 30 years. I wonder what others will say about us 30 years from now...  

The suggestions they made at Wikipedia are helpful, but will imply a lot of rewriting - by an English native...

Artur

 



On Monday, October 14, 2013 2:42 PM, Harold Shinsato <harold at shinsato.com> wrote:
 
Hi Artur,

I actually found a reference in a book by Beverly Fletcher,
      "Organization transformation theorists and practitioners: profiles
      and themes" published in 1990 which I was able to cite in
      rewriting to remove the questions in the article page - to give
      the time and conference - Boston Regional ODN in the spring of
      1982. It's an interesting read as this part of the book is visible
      on Google Books preview - http://books.google.com/books?id=U79jGNETRKIC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false.

I looked over the talk section of the Open Space wikipedia entry
      and I think I agree with some of the comments there about the tone
      of the article sounding too much like a promotion or advocacy of
      OST, and the most helpful comment was that the article could use
      benefit from looking at the format of the Wikipedia entry on
      Scrum. This seems like a lot more rewriting is needed to help
      legitimize the article. Too much work for me to do right now - but
      at least I answered those questions.

    Harold

On 10/14/13 4:39 AM, Artur Silva wrote:

Harold: The idea of correcting the OST entry in the Wikipedia is very valuable.
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>But, in what concerns the initial part with issues (In the early 1980s[when?], Harrison Owen wrote a paper on what he called "organization transformation". He presented this paper at a traditional management conference[which?]. It was well enough received that a number of people[who?] urged Owen to organize a conference to specifically address the issues and opportunities he identified in his paper.) as there was not such paper, but only a presentation, can't this be explained on the "talk page" and propose that the all sentence be supressed?
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>Harrison: Even if you are not sure if you said that at the time, it is still correct and I am sure that you wrote it now :-) 
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>So can I quote this:
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>«I don’t know what Organization Transformation is, but I suspect that it may be the successor to Organization Development, appropriate to life in a transforming world.»? 
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>Regards
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>Artur?
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>On Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:57 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
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>OK – got a clue. I did make a presentation at a regional gathering of the ODN in the early 80’s. Actually David Belle Isle and I did it jointly. The title of our presentation was “Myth and Ritual as the Ground for Organization Transformation.” There never really was a paper, just some notes, and we just talked. I vaguely recall the last remarks – which I made – “I don’t know what Organization Transformation is, but I suspect that it may be the successor to Organization Development, appropriate to life in a transforming world.” Or something.
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>From:Harold Shinsato [mailto:harold at shinsato.com] 
>Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:43 AM
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>Subject: Original Harrison Owen paper on "Organization Transformation"?
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>Hey folks, an ongoing effort of many people on this list and of the Open Space Institute U.S. has been to fix up the Wikipedia page. http://wikipedia.org/Open_Space_Technology. It has had some of the ugly warnings at the beginning removed, but there are still issues.
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>The opening of the current version of the
                          wikipedia article cites a paper Harrison Owen
                          wrote at "a traditional management
                          conference".
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>What was this paper and is it available
                          anywhere?
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>When was it published?
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>What was the traditional management conference
                          where it was published?
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>    Thanks!
>    Harold
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