[OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space

[paul levy]

Saying it is only a manner of speaking is only a manner of speaking.

If your time organism is big enough it includes your now.

There's more to this than meets the "I"!

I'm sure there is more eloquence than just "big". I think that perhaps
"big" brought us to the brink of world economic collapse.

Sometimes simplicity is perfect. Sometimes it misses the very big you hint
at. Go on,think bigger than just "big".

On 24 March 2013 22:28, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:

> It is only a manner of speaking. If your NOW is big enough it includes
> what we (used to) call Past and Future. So how is that for esoterica?****
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> *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *paul levy
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> Harrison****
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> Yes, and more...****
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> The "now" becomes enormous because it forms part of the time organism - a
> living organism because past, present and future all live vibrantly within
> it. This is no mere theory. Now is where we are present, but before and
> beyond are where we are also alive.****
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> But no. The past isn't over. It is both before and before. The past lies
> up ahead. The past is full of seeds but also it contains keys. The past is
> a living picture playing in and out of the now. As does the future. History
> is the high-story.****
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> Practically (and this is where a bias towards one dimension limits the
> opening of space)...****
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> What do we wish had happened?****
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> What would have happened if ... ?****
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> What happened ?****
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> These are not questions for a past that is over and done with. These are
> questions for the future "before us".****
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> Whatever happened is not the only thing that could have. Whatever happened
> is one of my things that could happen.****
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> Dive into that - if only for the game of it!****
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> We can live many lives and still not get close to the real vistas of space
> and time that wait to be opened. Potential lives in the whole time
> organism, not only the now. There's something special about now, but its
> not the whole story!****
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> Go on, imagine you might have missed a trick...!****
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> Paul
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> On Sunday, 24 March 2013, Harrison Owen wrote:****
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> Paul – “And it is why I believe that when we open space, we open space not
> only for the future but for our whole "time organism".”  I like it. If only
> because I wrote a book, “Expanding Our Now.” The idea is simple, maybe
> simple minded. But it goes like this: The past is over, the future hasn’t
> happened yet. What we got is NOW. And how big can we make that? I don’t
> know, but it is a lot bigger than most of us think – which is usually
> measured in nanoseconds.   A very small NOW. – But when we Open Space, my
> experience is that NOW becomes enormous. Well past chronometric
> measurement. Or something.****
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> *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *paul levy
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:08 PM
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> Perfectly described, Koos!****
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> And it is why I believe that when we open space, we open space not only
> for the future but for our whole "time organism". ****
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> It is also why, if there must be "action planning" is need not only come
> at the end!****
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> Time is linear, circular and many other things as well. ****
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> Warm rushes****
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> Paul
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> On Sunday, 24 March 2013, Koos de Heer wrote:****
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> Paul,****
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> I once heard a story from someone who had been to Greece, interviewing
> people about the political and economic situation there.  He reports that
> some people would say: “We can’t predict the future – after all, you have
> no idea of the things that are still hidden behind your back.”  The
> metaphor of the way time flows there  is the opposite of ours. In Western
> Europe, we picture ourselves as looking to the future and having the past
> behind our backs. Apparently in Greece, the people experience the timeline
> so that the future is coming from behind and the past is disappearing in
> front of them. So they are looking at the past and not seeing the future.
> Which makes sense; we think we look at the future, but what are we looking
> at? Only images, because we don’t know what it will be. Which also leads to
> the question whether our images from the past are correct, but that is
> another story.****
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> This leads me to wondering if there might be cultures where time is viewed
> as circular, which would make even more sense to me.****
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> Koos****
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> David****
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> There's a depth and warm texture to your model.****
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> I would offer this:****
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> You define vision this:
> "what does it look like when it is done"****
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> I believe that is only part of vision. ****
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> Vision is what does the temporal picture look like: the picture of past,
> present AND future, all playing into each other. As I said earlier - what
> went before (past) is also before us (future, in front).****
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