[OSList] Follow-Up and Flow in Open Space

Sun Mar 24 15:28:19 PDT 2013

It is only a manner of speaking. If your NOW is big enough it includes what
we (used to) call Past and Future. So how is that for esoterica?

ho

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Harrison

Yes, and more...

The "now" becomes enormous because it forms part of the time organism - a
living organism because past, present and future all live vibrantly within
it. This is no mere theory. Now is where we are present, but before and
beyond are where we are also alive.

But no. The past isn't over. It is both before and before. The past lies up
ahead. The past is full of seeds but also it contains keys. The past is a
living picture playing in and out of the now. As does the future. History is
the high-story.

Practically (and this is where a bias towards one dimension limits the
opening of space)...

What do we wish had happened?

What would have happened if ... ?

What happened ?

These are not questions for a past that is over and done with. These are
questions for the future "before us".

Whatever happened is not the only thing that could have. Whatever happened
is one of my things that could happen.

Dive into that - if only for the game of it!

We can live many lives and still not get close to the real vistas of space
and time that wait to be opened. Potential lives in the whole time organism,
not only the now. There's something special about now, but its not the whole
story!

Go on, imagine you might have missed a trick...!

Paul 

On Sunday, 24 March 2013, Harrison Owen wrote:

Paul - "And it is why I believe that when we open space, we open space not
only for the future but for our whole "time organism"."  I like it. If only
because I wrote a book, "Expanding Our Now." The idea is simple, maybe
simple minded. But it goes like this: The past is over, the future hasn't
happened yet. What we got is NOW. And how big can we make that? I don't
know, but it is a lot bigger than most of us think - which is usually
measured in nanoseconds.   A very small NOW. - But when we Open Space, my
experience is that NOW becomes enormous. Well past chronometric measurement.
Or something.

ho

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Perfectly described, Koos!

And it is why I believe that when we open space, we open space not only for
the future but for our whole "time organism". 

It is also why, if there must be "action planning" is need not only come at
the end!

Time is linear, circular and many other things as well. 

Warm rushes

Paul

On Sunday, 24 March 2013, Koos de Heer wrote:

Paul,

I once heard a story from someone who had been to Greece, interviewing
people about the political and economic situation there.  He reports that
some people would say: "We can't predict the future - after all, you have no
idea of the things that are still hidden behind your back."  The metaphor of
the way time flows there  is the opposite of ours. In Western Europe, we
picture ourselves as looking to the future and having the past behind our
backs. Apparently in Greece, the people experience the timeline so that the
future is coming from behind and the past is disappearing in front of them.
So they are looking at the past and not seeing the future. Which makes
sense; we think we look at the future, but what are we looking at? Only
images, because we don't know what it will be. Which also leads to the
question whether our images from the past are correct, but that is another
story.

This leads me to wondering if there might be cultures where time is viewed
as circular, which would make even more sense to me.

Koos

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David

There's a depth and warm texture to your model.

I would offer this:

You define vision this: 
"what does it look like when it is done"

I believe that is only part of vision. 

Vision is what does the temporal picture look like: the picture of past,
present AND future, all playing into each other. As I said earlier - what
went before (past) is also before us (future, in front).

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