[OSList] Small group OS

Tue Jun 11 13:32:37 PDT 2013

Paul and Arturo:Talking about smal OS, I have in mind the idea of doing a
OS only with my self but... I have not send the invitation yet...but I am
serious it is an experiment that I whant to do...If someone does this let
me know...and if I do it I will tell you.
Adriana

2013/6/11 Arturo Uscategui-Colaboremos <arturo at colaboremos.com>

> Dear Paul,****
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> My answers to your 2 questions are : ****
>
>
>
> Yes absolutely yes for first question. Recently I facilitate an OST with 2
> people including me. We had 12 topics, which became 5 conversations. Its
> was a very learning experience and we where positively surprised as always
> in every OST. Lisa Heft has also a beautiful experience of a OST with two
> people. ****
>
>
>
> Concerning the 2nd question, it depends what you have in mind when you
> say “extending results”. If you need the same involvement from the
> remainder of the company not in the OS, I think that it’s not a good idea,
> but if you want to share a certain level of the results and you expect only
> a beginning of connexion with the results from OS, that could be manage. In
> any case, my answer its very partial because we need more details of the
> context to get an answer closer to reality. ****
>
>
>
> Thank you to share your questions ! ;)****
>  Collaboratively,
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>   1. Small group OS (Paul Nunesdea)
>   2. Re: And now, our new OSLIST Poet Laureate.... ! (h.schmid)
>   3. Re: Small group OS (Michael M Pannwitz)
>   4. Re: Small group OS (Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring)
>   5. Re: Small group OS (Jeff Aitken)
>   6. Re: Small group OS (chunili2000 at yahoo.com)
>   7. Re: Small group OS (Harrison Owen)
>   8. Re: Small group OS (Harrison Owen)
>   9. Re: Small group OS (june parham)
>  10. Re: Small group OS (yaari pannwitz)
>  11. Re: Small group OS (Suzanne Daigle)
>  12. Re: Small group OS (Diane Gibeault)
>  13. Re: Small group OS (Paul Nunesdea)
>  14. Re: Small group OS (Michael M Pannwitz)
>  15. Re: Small group OS (Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:10:51 +0200
> From: Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
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> Subject: [OSList] Small group OS
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> List,
>
> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new
> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to host
> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller group
> context.
>
> My question is twofold:
> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder
> of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>
> Your experience would be much valued!
>
> Best
> Paul
>
> From my iPad
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:26:54 +0200
> From: "h.schmid" <h.schmid at sde-schmid.at>
> To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> Subject: Re: [OSList] And now, our new OSLIST Poet Laureate.... !
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> !!! congratulations jonathan !!!
>
>
> horst
>
> On 2013-06-10 02:44, Lisa Heft wrote:
>
> Ladies and gentlemen - I now present to you our new Poet Laureate of
> Open Space:
>
> J o n a t h a n   C o e
>
>
> CoNgRaTuLaTiOnS !!
>
> Jonathan will now hold space for poetry on the OSLIST through the rest
> of the year.
> And how enriched we will be !
>
> This mens he will write, or invite, or feel, or however he wishes to
> hold space for poetry for our community and for Open Space.
>
> And see who the other poets are - their work is amazing amazing. Do
> continue to gift us with your thoughts and words, everyone - all
> inspiration welcome.
>
> Enjoy, and a deep bow to our new Poet Laureate...
> Lisa
>
> ____
>
> First, Jonathan's poem - one of his two contributions to the contest.
> And then the other fabulous poems from our thoughtful creative
> colleagues. Happy reading and dreaming and imagining...
>
> ___
>
> WOSONOS 2012
>
>
> In Stoke Newington Town Hall I fell in love with nothing,
> and it was no thing that I loved.
>
> Alone, knowing no-one and nothing I walked the circle
> I got present
> I was connected.
>
> Presence,
> absence.
> The empty space of the opening circle.
> Profoundly empty,
> containing no thing
>
> Through me
> everything and no-thing, in me
> the circle, in me
> the space, in me
> the people, in me
> butterflies and bumblebees.  In me
> body, in me
> mind, in me
> image, in me
> thought, in me
> feeling, in me
> sensation, in me
> nothing.
>
> It started at the right time
> The right people were the ones who came
> The only thing that could have happened
> Was what happened
> It was over when it was over.
>
> The bees were buzzing
> The 'flies were flitting
> The space was open.
> The circle was squared.
>
> --/Jonathan Coe (London, England)/
>
> _____
>
>
> Loving My Blank Walls
> 28 February 2013, 12:58PM
> Tacloban City
> I love my blank walls
> They are empty spaces
> For treasures of my heart
> They are my open spaces
> Where I play and dance
> There I draw
> Dreams and visions
> There I start anew
> Awakening fresh each morning
> There my mind wanders
> Coloring my canvass with ideas
> There I forget
> And I remember
> There I am
> There I am not
>
>
> -- /Carmela Ariza (Manila, the Philippines) /
>
> ____________
>
>
> /This poem are words I put together from the participants in the Open
> Space on Future of Learning here in Manila in 2011. As I listened to
> the participants I wrote down all the beautiful words and phrases
> uttered and organized them into this (see below). These were
> words/phrases from about half of the participants as I was seated
> somewhere in the middle (of the circumference) of the circle in the
> closing ceremony. I listened to each one, wrote down, and when It was
> my turn to speak, I read this piece./
>
>
> Open Spaces in My Heart
> participants' beautiful insights woven into one poem by Carmela Ariza
> at the OST conference on Learning for the Future closing
> SEAMEO Innotech, Manila, March 2012
>
> Help us to just be
> Not controlling
>
> Help us share what we learned
> To listen to everyone since we are all brilliant and wise
>
> Fill us with hope
> So that we may be the rockets and stars in open space
>
> As we sit at the edge of the lake, keep us still and peaceful
> So that we can marvel at the beauty of open spaces
>
> Thank you for the gift of the moment
> To slow down, because to be slow also means to be fast
>
> Lead us to walk towards
> what is life giving
>
> We were initially hesitant
> But we have learned to open ourselves to others
>
> We have found the open space
> in our silence within
>
> From living in tight spaces
> We now know how to live in open spaces
>
> We thank the sacred source
> For the space of humility and listening from the heart
> For our nature is to be free
> Within this happy sacred circle
> Help us bring healing to others
> Make our circle continuously open
> So that our learning will never stop
> Thank you that we have regained our lost passion
> And turned our cynicism into idealism
> Beyond this meeting
> Use our passions to shape a better future
> May this be just a beginning of more open spaces
> New choices, which are the key to freedom
> Keep us curious
> Help us sustain the convergence
> Instill in us a sense of urgency
> To embrace and own the direction towards what is right and good.
>
>
> --/Carmela Ariza (Manila, the Philippines)/
>
> _____
>
>
>
> space,
>
> opening
>
> unfolding
>
> wondrous
>
>
>
> /-- Kerry Napuk (Edinburgh, Scotland)/
>
> _____
>
>
>
> /This piece I wrote as the team of OS facilitators were designing for
> many days the Sumatran Rhino Crisis Summit. I was reflecting on the
> issue and I just thought about these..../
>
>
> Saving the Rhinos and Me
> by: Carmela Ariza
> 4 March 2013, 11:52AM
>
> Can we really save the rhino?
> Or are we here to save ourselves?
> Are we talking about the rhino?
> Or are we talking about me and you?
> Should we talk about them?
> Or should be talk about us?
> It's hard when we have to look out there
> When the answers are all in here
> Is it the Rhino who's running out of time?
> Or it is us who are chasing the past?
> Tomorrow seems to be now
> And today seems to have gone by
> We've all come from places near or far
> Does your presence have a reason and a rhyme
> How can we make our conversations
> Mean more than what we came here for
> Perhaps we all want answers
> The question is: what is the question?
> How can we find what's good for the rhino?
> If we can't find what's good for ourselves
> Let's try to listen more
> To the calling that's within
> Let's try to open up the spaces
> For the wisdom we all have to share!
>
>
> -- /Carmela Ariza (Manila, the Philippines)/
>
> _____
>
>
> Space Open Circle
>
> /from Open Space Technology - A Users Guide by Harrison Owen/
> /Note: This poem is in the 'found poetry' form. I have made selections
> from the //original text and decided how to shape and punctuate it./
> /I have removed all the other words from the book - but none from
> //the selected phrases./
>
>
> The circle is the fundamental geometry
> of human communication.
>
> A circle has no head or feet,
> no high or low
> no sides to take;
> in a circle people can simply be
> with each other,
> face to face.
>
> The geometry of the circle
> and the rhythm of breath.
>
> Show Up
> Be Present
> Tell The Truth
> Let It All Go.
>
> Do nothing and remain
> invisible.
>
> Be prepared
> to be
> surprised.
>
> Who ever heard of a square of friends?
>
>
> -- /Jonathan Coe (London, England)/
>
> _____
>
>
> /This was what I wrote during the Rhino Summit - I started writing
> there and finished it after. It is a very short one.../
>
>
> Spaces Made Holy for the Rhino
>
> I sit on holy ground
> As people open spaces
> To try to save the rhino
> there are spaces
> Between us
> Above us
> Inside us
> To voice
> To listen
> To Respect
> And to suspend
> We are holding the space
> For a flow of meaning
> That will be shared by all
> Even for difficult moments
> We seek to keep the space open
> Today, I stand firmly on holy ground
>
> -- /Carmela Ariza (Manila, the Philippines)/
> /
> /
> /
> /
> /
> /
> /
> /
> /
> /
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:33:59 +0200
> From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
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> Dear Paul,
> in my experience it does work, I have facilitated several.
> The tendency for the whole group to go to a particular session is larger
> than in a large event but there are often many small or even very small
> groups, or groups of one. So the dynamic is basically the same albeit
> more intense.
>
> However, these requests for an OST event with a small group almost
> always end up being much larger after a planning meeting with the
> sponsor (in this case, all nine could constitute the planning group).
> Basicall, in the Planning Meeting three major questions are answered:
> 1. What are our expectations regarding the outcome of the OST event?
> 2. What should be the heading for the event in light of our expectations?
> 3. Who should be invited to the event in light of our expectations and
> the title of our event?
>
> So, I would encourage you to have a traditional planning meeting.
>
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
>
>
> On 11.06.2013 14:10, Paul Nunesdea wrote:
>
> List,
>
> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning
> 'new company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have
> experienced to host larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also
> useful in a smaller group context.
>
> My question is twofold: - would a OS session of 9 persons would work
> in terms of marketplace dynamics, would the sessions be too small? -
> If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the
> remainder of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>
> Your experience would be much valued!
>
> Best Paul
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:42:33 -0400
> From: Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adriana at diazberrio.com>
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> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
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> Hi Paul:
> I Love you question because I can share something this time! I was really
> afraid of small OS because I had the fear that it could not be as good
> as...a big OS but I had one experience that was so good!
> I had only 7 participants but it was one day from 9:30 to 18:30 and at the
> end of the day the people did not wanted to go!
> It really was a very nice experience and everybody was so happy.
> They  had proposed several topics and they had groups of 2,3,4,5 and the
> closing circle was so interesting.
> I was and very satisfied with this experience because after it I am never
> afraid of small OS.
> Trust the principle 1
> The people that come are the right ones
> (It doesn't say that this principle only applies after x number of people!
> Does it?)
> ....and the other principles to!
>
> Adriana
>
> 2013/6/11 Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
>
> List,
>
> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new
> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to host
> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller group
> context.
>
> My question is twofold:
> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder
> of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>
> Your experience would be much valued!
>
> Best
> Paul
>
> From my iPad
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> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 07:53:29 -0700
> From: Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>
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> HI Paul,
>
> There is only one bit of awkwardness that I've experienced in a small
> OS. It's happened a few times. After the agenda is on the wall, one
> participant might suggest out loud that the group stay together to
> talk about all of the agenda items.
>
> If the group agrees with one another to do this, there are a couple of
> things to notice: first, they will have less time to talk about each
> topic. I do remind them of this.
>
> And second, there might be an expectation that you will now facilitate
> the group more actively, instead of holding space without intervening.
> So it might be helpful to make an agreement with the sponsor
> beforehand, that the OS style of facilitating does not involve your
> active facilitation of the topics.
>
> There are other ways to facilitate a small gathering that might serve
> the needs of the group, but in my experience, open space can work very
> well.
>
> Jeff
> San Francisco
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/11/13, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adriana at diazberrio.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul:
> I Love you question because I can share something this time! I was really
> afraid of small OS because I had the fear that it could not be as good
> as...a big OS but I had one experience that was so good!
> I had only 7 participants but it was one day from 9:30 to 18:30 and at the
> end of the day the people did not wanted to go!
> It really was a very nice experience and everybody was so happy.
> They  had proposed several topics and they had groups of 2,3,4,5 and the
> closing circle was so interesting.
> I was and very satisfied with this experience because after it I am never
> afraid of small OS.
> Trust the principle 1
> The people that come are the right ones
> (It doesn't say that this principle only applies after x number of people!
> Does it?)
> ....and the other principles to!
>
> Adriana
>
> 2013/6/11 Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
>
> List,
>
> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new
> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to
> host
> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller
> group
> context.
>
> My question is twofold:
> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder
> of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>
> Your experience would be much valued!
>
> Best
> Paul
>
> From my iPad
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>
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>
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> (514) 739 2268
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:09:03 -0700 (PDT)
> From: chunili2000 at yahoo.com
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> Hi Paul,
> ?
> ?
> I will comment on the 2nd part of your question.
> ?
> Issues like new org structure and downsizing have wide impact. These types
> of issues can be?a very good theme for a wider audience than the 9-person
> management team (if not the entire organization). I would suggest to the
> management team to consider inviting the whole organization to come and see
> how cares to show up.
> Who knows?? The collective wisdom may lead to solutions better than
> downsizing.
> At the minimum,?if people understand the issues and challenges?well, and
> participate in the grieving process of restructuring, they can deal with
> the pain?of downsizing?better.
> ?
> ?
> ?
> ?
> Chuni
> ?
> ?
> ?
> ?
> ?
>
> From: Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 8:10 AM
> Subject: [OSList] Small group OS
>
>
> List,
>
> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new
> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to host
> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller group
> context.
>
> My question is twofold:
> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder
> of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>
> Your experience would be much valued!
>
> Best
> Paul
>
> From my iPad
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> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:31:37 -0400
> From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net>
> To: <chunili2000 at yahoo.com>, "'World wide Open Space Technology email
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> Right on! Chuni!! Given the nature of the issue, doing a OS with the WHOLE
> company (at least all those who care about the company) is really critical.
> The wisdom of nine contrasted with the collective wisdom and experience of
> everybody else is pretty small, to say the least. And the buy in from
> everybody else who is not included will be, predictably, smaller. Paul, do
> yourself and your client a real favor. Have this conversation with them. If
> it were me, unless there were huge extenuating circumstances (which I
> couldn't imagine) I would make companywide (voluntary) participation a
> condition of my participation. Sounds a little harsh I guess, but
> experience, sometimes bitter, has taken me there. And if you question
> whether such a tender situation could be effectively dealt with by all
> parties in Open Space... The answer is quite simple: YES. In fact that is
> where Open Space really shines. If you look through the book, "Tales from
> Open Space" - you will find the story of a large company of 2500 downsizing
> itself to 1200 - all in a series of  Open Spaces. You can find a copy at:
>
> http://openspaceworld.com/Tales.pdf
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
> Harrison Owen
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> USA
>
>
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>
> Camden, Maine 04843
>
>
>
> Phone 301-365-2093
>
> (summer)  207-763-3261
>
>
>
> www.openspaceworld.com
>
> www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
>
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST
> Go to:
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>
>
>
> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of
> chunili2000 at yahoo.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:09 AM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
>
>
>
> Hi Paul,
>
>
>
>
>
> I will comment on the 2nd part of your question.
>
>
>
> Issues like new org structure and downsizing have wide impact. These types
> of issues can be a very good theme for a wider audience than the 9-person
> management team (if not the entire organization). I would suggest to the
> management team to consider inviting the whole organization to come and see
> how cares to show up.
>
> Who knows?  The collective wisdom may lead to solutions better than
> downsizing.
> At the minimum, if people understand the issues and challenges well, and
> participate in the grieving process of restructuring, they can deal with
> the
> pain of downsizing better.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Chuni
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 8:10 AM
> Subject: [OSList] Small group OS
>
>
> List,
>
> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new
> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to host
> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller group
> context.
>
> My question is twofold:
> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder
> of
> the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>
> Your experience would be much valued!
>
> Best
> Paul
>
> From my iPad
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:40:24 -0400
> From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net>
> To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
> Message-ID: <003901ce66b9$fe0c3980$fa24ac80$@net>
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>
> I should added that the article is by Hugh Huntington and starts ( I think)
> on page 81. And for anybody else who cares, you might check out
> www.openspaceworld.com in the "books" section where you will find PDF
> versions of other out of print - but hopefully not out of date - books.
> They
> are all free for the taking.
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
> Harrison Owen
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> USA
>
>
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>
> Camden, Maine 04843
>
>
>
> Phone 301-365-2093
>
> (summer)  207-763-3261
>
>
>
> www.openspaceworld.com
>
> www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
>
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST
> Go to:
> <http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org>
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>
>
>
> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Harrison Owen
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:32 AM
> To: chunili2000 at yahoo.com; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
>
>
>
> Right on! Chuni!! Given the nature of the issue, doing a OS with the WHOLE
> company (at least all those who care about the company) is really critical.
> The wisdom of nine contrasted with the collective wisdom and experience of
> everybody else is pretty small, to say the least. And the buy in from
> everybody else who is not included will be, predictably, smaller. Paul, do
> yourself and your client a real favor. Have this conversation with them. If
> it were me, unless there were huge extenuating circumstances (which I
> couldn't imagine) I would make companywide (voluntary) participation a
> condition of my participation. Sounds a little harsh I guess, but
> experience, sometimes bitter, has taken me there. And if you question
> whether such a tender situation could be effectively dealt with by all
> parties in Open Space... The answer is quite simple: YES. In fact that is
> where Open Space really shines. If you look through the book, "Tales from
> Open Space" - you will find the story of a large company of 2500 downsizing
> itself to 1200 - all in a series of  Open Spaces. You can find a copy at:
>
> http://openspaceworld.com/Tales.pdf
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
> Harrison Owen
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> USA
>
>
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>
> Camden, Maine 04843
>
>
>
> Phone 301-365-2093
>
> (summer)  207-763-3261
>
>
>
> www.openspaceworld.com
>
> www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
>
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST
> Go to:http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>
>
>
> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of
> chunili2000 at yahoo.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:09 AM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
>
>
>
> Hi Paul,
>
>
>
>
>
> I will comment on the 2nd part of your question.
>
>
>
> Issues like new org structure and downsizing have wide impact. These types
> of issues can be a very good theme for a wider audience than the 9-person
> management team (if not the entire organization). I would suggest to the
> management team to consider inviting the whole organization to come and see
> how cares to show up.
>
> Who knows?  The collective wisdom may lead to solutions better than
> downsizing.
> At the minimum, if people understand the issues and challenges well, and
> participate in the grieving process of restructuring, they can deal with
> the
> pain of downsizing better.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Chuni
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 8:10 AM
> Subject: [OSList] Small group OS
>
>
> List,
>
> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new
> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to host
> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller group
> context.
>
> My question is twofold:
> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder
> of
> the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>
> Your experience would be much valued!
>
> Best
> Paul
>
> From my iPad
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:43:50 -0700 (PDT)
> From: june parham <jparham2000 at yahoo.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
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> a couple of weeks ago, I also had a very small group, around 7.? It ended
> up to be a marvelous discussion.? We only had 2 hours from start to
> finish.? I broke the rules and became involved in a discussion.? It was a
> ?very positive experience.? A couple of attendees came to our session last
> year at the same conference.? One topic was how to bring OST into the
> classroom, fascinating!!!!!!? Whoever come are the right people, they were
> there.? The session was at a conference in beautiful Lake Louise Alberta.?
> ?
> June
> Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 17:49:33 +0200
> From: yaari pannwitz <yaari at bg5.de>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
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> hi paul,
>
> i experienced a few open spaces with a rather unusual small number of
> participants. from my point of view it works quite well, thus it can get
> fairly rough and intense and beautifully exhaustive for everyone involved.
> alongside i noticed that one as facilitator is far more present and being
> focused by the pax (compared with facilitating larger groups). i always
> remind myself to be aware of this effect in advance.
>
> enjoy
>
> yaari
>
>
>
> Am 11.06.2013 um 14:10 schrieb Paul Nunesdea:
>
> List,
>
> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new
> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to host
> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller group
> context.
>
> My question is twofold:
> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder
> of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>
> Your experience would be much valued!
>
> Best
> Paul
>
> From my iPad
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> yaari pannwitz
> 015771987461
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:50:08 -0400
> From: Suzanne Daigle <sdaigle4 at gmail.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
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>
> Dear Paul,
>
> No apologies for the recurrent questions.  I love your questions; they are
> very real and  inspire me more than you realize.
>
> During my corporate career, I was involved in acquisitions and
> downsizings.  Much prefer the first to the second however, what I learned
> is that it is during those times that we need to open space, build trust,
> be supporting each other and ultimately doing the best we can for the
> people and the business.
>
> As Chuni mentions, it would be good if all could be included in the
> discussion however I know that in situations like these, it is not always
> possible to do so.
>
> I also agree with Jeff that a small group may be inclined to keep everyone
> together and without directing them one way or another, it's helpful to
> remind them of following their passion and where they want to take
> responsibility.
>
> And now I've just seen Harrison's email and certainly it would be best to
> involve all and do try that route working with a diverse planning team to
> set the theme, the benefits of this approach, etc.
>
> That said, if it is not possible, do not be deterred by the small group. I
> know the Marketplace wall of topics will become that space for people to
> speak the spoken and the unsaid and in downsizing, it is the unsaid that is
> the toughest to deal with.
>
> Don't hesitate to reach out again as this evolves.  Thank you for including
> us.
>
> Suzanne
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com> wrote:
>
> List,
>
> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new
> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to host
> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller group
> context.
>
> My question is twofold:
> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder
> of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>
> Your experience would be much valued!
>
> Best
> Paul
>
> From my iPad
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> University Park, FL 34201
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> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:23:57 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Diane Gibeault <diane.gibeault at rogers.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
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> Hi,
>
> When I facilitated a team of 7, when some people suggested to stick as a
> group for all topics, I encouraged them to try out the OS approach for at
> least the first round and see for themselves if they will experience
> something useful and different from their usual way of working.?
>
> They did and never looked back at the stick together idea. The room was
> buzzing with small and larger conversations, short and long, and lots of
> bumblebees.
>
> It works!
>
> Diane
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:53:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
>
>
> HI Paul,
>
> There is only one bit of awkwardness that I've experienced in a small
> OS. It's happened a few times. After the agenda is on the wall, one
> participant might suggest out loud that the group stay together to
> talk about all of the agenda items.
>
> If the group agrees with one another to do this, there are a couple of
> things to notice: first, they will have less time to talk about each
> topic. I do remind them of this.
>
> And second, there might be an expectation that you will now facilitate
> the group more actively, instead of holding space without intervening.
> So it might be helpful to make an agreement with the sponsor
> beforehand, that the OS style of facilitating does not involve your
> active facilitation of the topics.
>
> There are other ways to facilitate a small gathering that might serve
> the needs of the group, but in my experience, open space can work very
> well.
>
> Jeff
> San Francisco
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/11/13, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adriana at diazberrio.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul:
> I Love you question because I can share something this time! I was really
> afraid of small OS because I had the fear that it could not be as good
> as...a big OS but I had one experience that was so good!
> I had only 7 participants but it was one day from 9:30 to 18:30 and at the
> end of the day the people did not wanted to go!
> It really was a very nice experience and everybody was so happy.
> They? had proposed several topics and they had groups of 2,3,4,5 and the
> closing circle was so interesting.
> ? I was and very satisfied with this experience because after it I am never
> afraid of small OS.
> Trust the principle 1
> The people that come are the right ones
> ? (It doesn't say that this principle only applies after x number of
> people!
> Does it?)
> ....and the other principles to!
>
> Adriana
>
> 2013/6/11 Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
>
> List,
>
> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new
> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to
> host
> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller
> group
> context.
>
> My question is twofold:
> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder
> of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>
> Your experience would be much valued!
>
> Best
> Paul
>
> From my iPad
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> --
>
> Adriana D?az-Berrio Ph.D. CRHA
> (514) 739 2268
> www.diazberrio.com
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 19:33:39 +0200
> From: Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
> To: Diane Gibeault <diane.gibeault at rogers.com>, World wide Open Space
> Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
> Message-ID: <D7A01504-CF3C-4CFE-87B7-92AC890BF814 at me.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> List, your responses are a true blessing and the tenderness and passion I
> feel from you is truly empowering - THANK YOU.
>
> From my iPad
>
> On 11/06/2013, at 18:23, Diane Gibeault <diane.gibeault at rogers.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> When I facilitated a team of 7, when some people suggested to stick as a
> group for all topics, I encouraged them to try out the OS approach for at
> least the first round and see for themselves if they will experience
> something useful and different from their usual way of working.
>
> They did and never looked back at the stick together idea. The room was
> buzzing with small and larger conversations, short and long, and lots of
> bumblebees.
>
> It works!
>
> Diane
>
>
> From: Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:53:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
>
> HI Paul,
>
> There is only one bit of awkwardness that I've experienced in a small
> OS. It's happened a few times. After the agenda is on the wall, one
> participant might suggest out loud that the group stay together to
> talk about all of the agenda items.
>
> If the group agrees with one another to do this, there are a couple of
> things to notice: first, they will have less time to talk about each
> topic. I do remind them of this.
>
> And second, there might be an expectation that you will now facilitate
> the group more actively, instead of holding space without intervening.
> So it might be helpful to make an agreement with the sponsor
> beforehand, that the OS style of facilitating does not involve your
> active facilitation of the topics.
>
> There are other ways to facilitate a small gathering that might serve
> the needs of the group, but in my experience, open space can work very
> well.
>
> Jeff
> San Francisco
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/11/13, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adriana at diazberrio.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul:
> I Love you question because I can share something this time! I was really
> afraid of small OS because I had the fear that it could not be as good
> as...a big OS but I had one experience that was so good!
> I had only 7 participants but it was one day from 9:30 to 18:30 and at the
> end of the day the people did not wanted to go!
> It really was a very nice experience and everybody was so happy.
> They  had proposed several topics and they had groups of 2,3,4,5 and the
> closing circle was so interesting.
> I was and very satisfied with this experience because after it I am never
> afraid of small OS.
> Trust the principle 1
> The people that come are the right ones
> (It doesn't say that this principle only applies after x number of people!
> Does it?)
> ....and the other principles to!
>
> Adriana
>
> 2013/6/11 Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
>
> List,
>
> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new
> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to
> host
> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller
> group
> context.
>
> My question is twofold:
> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder
> of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>
> Your experience would be much valued!
>
> Best
> Paul
>
> From my iPad
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
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>
>
>
> --
>
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> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 21:48:11 +0200
> From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
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> Dear Harrison,
> actually, I often have felt the way you describe, why dont they just
> send out an invitation to everyone!
> I never made it a condition for taking on the job.
> However, I have made it a condition to have both a contact meeting
> (mostly to have the sponsor look at the prerequisites for an OST) and a
> Planning Meeting.
> If they agree and actually take those two steps (sometimes it ends with
> the contact meeting, because they feel the prerequisites are not in
> place), the result has always been to send out invitations to more than
> originally intended or to everyone in their system and often folks they
> never had had on their screen before.
> What I like about this approach is that its them making the decisions
> and their passion and responsibility.
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
> On 11.06.2013 17:31, Harrison Owen wrote:
>
> Right on! Chuni!! Given the nature of the issue, doing a OS with the
> WHOLE company (at least all those who care about the company) is really
> critical. The wisdom of nine contrasted with the collective wisdom and
> experience of everybody else is pretty small, to say the least. And the
> buy in from everybody else who is not included will be, predictably,
> smaller. Paul, do yourself and your client a real favor. Have this
> conversation with them. If it were me, unless there were huge
> extenuating circumstances (which I couldn?t imagine) I would make
> companywide (voluntary) participation a condition of my participation.
> Sounds a little harsh I guess, but experience, sometimes bitter, has
> taken me there. And if you question whether such a tender situation
> could be effectively dealt with by all parties in Open Space... The
> answer is quite simple: YES. In fact that is where Open Space really
> shines. If you look through the book, ?Tales from Open Space? ? you will
> find the story of a large company of 2500 downsizing itself to 1200 ?
> all in a series of  Open Spaces. You can find a copy at:
>
> http://openspaceworld.com/Tales.pdf
>
> Harrison
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> *From:*oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of
> *chunili2000 at yahoo.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:09 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Small group OS
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> I will comment on the 2nd part of your question.
>
> Issues like new org structure and downsizing have wide impact. These
> types of issues can be a very good theme for a wider audience than the
> 9-person management team (if not the entire organization). I would
> suggest to the management team to consider inviting the whole
> organization to come and see how cares to show up.
>
> Who knows?  The collective wisdom may lead to solutions better than
> downsizing.
> At the minimum, if people understand the issues and challenges well, and
> participate in the grieving process of restructuring, they can deal with
> the pain of downsizing better.
>
> Chuni
>
> *From:*Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com <mailto:nunesdea at me.com>>
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 11, 2013 8:10 AM
> *Subject:* [OSList] Small group OS
>
>
> List,
>
> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning
> 'new company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced
> to host larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a
> smaller group context.
>
> My question is twofold:
> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the
> remainder of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>
> Your experience would be much valued!
>
> Best
> Paul
>
> From my iPad
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> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:55:24 -0400
> From: Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adriana at diazberrio.com>
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> Paul: I appreciate a lot to be part of this group and you can always
> remember, here you are not alone!
> Adriana
>
> 2013/6/11 Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
>
> List, your responses are a true blessing and the tenderness and passion I
> feel from you is truly empowering - THANK YOU.
>
> From my iPad
>
> On 11/06/2013, at 18:23, Diane Gibeault <diane.gibeault at rogers.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> When I facilitated a team of 7, when some people suggested to stick as a
> group for all topics, I encouraged them to try out the OS approach for at
> least the first round and see for themselves if they will experience
> something useful and different from their usual way of working.
>
> They did and never looked back at the stick together idea. The room was
> buzzing with small and larger conversations, short and long, and lots of
> bumblebees.
>
> It works!
>
> Diane
>
>
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> *From:* Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>
> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:53:29 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Small group OS
>
> HI Paul,
>
> There is only one bit of awkwardness that I've experienced in a small
> OS. It's happened a few times. After the agenda is on the wall, one
> participant might suggest out loud that the group stay together to
> talk about all of the agenda items.
>
> If the group agrees with one another to do this, there are a couple of
> things to notice: first, they will have less time to talk about each
> topic. I do remind them of this.
>
> And second, there might be an expectation that you will now facilitate
> the group more actively, instead of holding space without intervening.
> So it might be helpful to make an agreement with the sponsor
> beforehand, that the OS style of facilitating does not involve your
> active facilitation of the topics.
>
> There are other ways to facilitate a small gathering that might serve
> the needs of the group, but in my experience, open space can work very
> well.
>
> Jeff
> San Francisco
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/11/13, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adriana at diazberrio.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul:
> I Love you question because I can share something this time! I was really
> afraid of small OS because I had the fear that it could not be as good
> as...a big OS but I had one experience that was so good!
> I had only 7 participants but it was one day from 9:30 to 18:30 and at
>
> the
>
> end of the day the people did not wanted to go!
> It really was a very nice experience and everybody was so happy.
> They  had proposed several topics and they had groups of 2,3,4,5 and the
> closing circle was so interesting.
> I was and very satisfied with this experience because after it I am
>
> never
>
> afraid of small OS.
> Trust the principle 1
> The people that come are the right ones
> (It doesn't say that this principle only applies after x number of
>
> people!
>
> Does it?)
> ....and the other principles to!
>
> Adriana
>
> 2013/6/11 Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
>
> List,
>
> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning
>
> 'new
>
> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to
> host
> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller
> group
> context.
>
> My question is twofold:
> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the
>
> remainder
>
> of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>
> Your experience would be much valued!
>
> Best
> Paul
>
> From my iPad
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