[OSList] Small group OS
Arturo Uscategui-Colaboremos
arturo at colaboremos.com
Tue Jun 11 13:28:23 PDT 2013
Dear Paul,
My answers to your 2 questions are :
Yes absolutely yes for first question. Recently I facilitate an OST with 2 people including me. We had 12 topics, which became 5 conversations. Its was a very learning experience and we where positively surprised as always in every OST. Lisa Heft has also a beautiful experience of a OST with two people.
Concerning the 2nd question, it depends what you have in mind when you say “extending results”. If you need the same involvement from the remainder of the company not in the OS, I think that it’s not a good idea, but if you want to share a certain level of the results and you expect only a beginning of connexion with the results from OS, that could be manage. In any case, my answer its very partial because we need more details of the context to get an answer closer to reality.
Thank you to share your questions ! ;)
Collaboratively,
Arturo Uscátegui Restrepo
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> 10. Re: Small group OS (yaari pannwitz)
> 11. Re: Small group OS (Suzanne Daigle)
> 12. Re: Small group OS (Diane Gibeault)
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> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:10:51 +0200
> From: Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
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> List,
>
> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to host larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller group context.
>
> My question is twofold:
> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>
> Your experience would be much valued!
>
> Best
> Paul
>
> From my iPad
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> From: "h.schmid" <h.schmid at sde-schmid.at>
> To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> Subject: Re: [OSList] And now, our new OSLIST Poet Laureate.... !
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> !!! congratulations jonathan !!!
>
>
> horst
>
> On 2013-06-10 02:44, Lisa Heft wrote:
>> Ladies and gentlemen - I now present to you our new Poet Laureate of
>> Open Space:
>>
>> J o n a t h a n C o e
>>
>>
>> CoNgRaTuLaTiOnS !!
>>
>> Jonathan will now hold space for poetry on the OSLIST through the rest
>> of the year.
>> And how enriched we will be !
>>
>> This mens he will write, or invite, or feel, or however he wishes to
>> hold space for poetry for our community and for Open Space.
>>
>> And see who the other poets are - their work is amazing amazing. Do
>> continue to gift us with your thoughts and words, everyone - all
>> inspiration welcome.
>>
>> Enjoy, and a deep bow to our new Poet Laureate...
>> Lisa
>>
>> ____
>>
>> First, Jonathan's poem - one of his two contributions to the contest.
>> And then the other fabulous poems from our thoughtful creative
>> colleagues. Happy reading and dreaming and imagining...
>>
>> ___
>>
>> WOSONOS 2012
>>
>>
>> In Stoke Newington Town Hall I fell in love with nothing,
>> and it was no thing that I loved.
>>
>> Alone, knowing no-one and nothing I walked the circle
>> I got present
>> I was connected.
>>
>> Presence,
>> absence.
>> The empty space of the opening circle.
>> Profoundly empty,
>> containing no thing
>>
>> Through me
>> everything and no-thing, in me
>> the circle, in me
>> the space, in me
>> the people, in me
>> butterflies and bumblebees. In me
>> body, in me
>> mind, in me
>> image, in me
>> thought, in me
>> feeling, in me
>> sensation, in me
>> nothing.
>>
>> It started at the right time
>> The right people were the ones who came
>> The only thing that could have happened
>> Was what happened
>> It was over when it was over.
>>
>> The bees were buzzing
>> The 'flies were flitting
>> The space was open.
>> The circle was squared.
>>
>> --/Jonathan Coe (London, England)/
>>
>> _____
>>
>>
>> Loving My Blank Walls
>> 28 February 2013, 12:58PM
>> Tacloban City
>> I love my blank walls
>> They are empty spaces
>> For treasures of my heart
>> They are my open spaces
>> Where I play and dance
>> There I draw
>> Dreams and visions
>> There I start anew
>> Awakening fresh each morning
>> There my mind wanders
>> Coloring my canvass with ideas
>> There I forget
>> And I remember
>> There I am
>> There I am not
>>
>>
>> -- /Carmela Ariza (Manila, the Philippines) /
>>
>> ____________
>>
>>
>> /This poem are words I put together from the participants in the Open
>> Space on Future of Learning here in Manila in 2011. As I listened to
>> the participants I wrote down all the beautiful words and phrases
>> uttered and organized them into this (see below). These were
>> words/phrases from about half of the participants as I was seated
>> somewhere in the middle (of the circumference) of the circle in the
>> closing ceremony. I listened to each one, wrote down, and when It was
>> my turn to speak, I read this piece./
>>
>>
>> Open Spaces in My Heart
>> participants' beautiful insights woven into one poem by Carmela Ariza
>> at the OST conference on Learning for the Future closing
>> SEAMEO Innotech, Manila, March 2012
>>
>> Help us to just be
>> Not controlling
>>
>> Help us share what we learned
>> To listen to everyone since we are all brilliant and wise
>>
>> Fill us with hope
>> So that we may be the rockets and stars in open space
>>
>> As we sit at the edge of the lake, keep us still and peaceful
>> So that we can marvel at the beauty of open spaces
>>
>> Thank you for the gift of the moment
>> To slow down, because to be slow also means to be fast
>>
>> Lead us to walk towards
>> what is life giving
>>
>> We were initially hesitant
>> But we have learned to open ourselves to others
>>
>> We have found the open space
>> in our silence within
>>
>> From living in tight spaces
>> We now know how to live in open spaces
>>
>> We thank the sacred source
>> For the space of humility and listening from the heart
>> For our nature is to be free
>> Within this happy sacred circle
>> Help us bring healing to others
>> Make our circle continuously open
>> So that our learning will never stop
>> Thank you that we have regained our lost passion
>> And turned our cynicism into idealism
>> Beyond this meeting
>> Use our passions to shape a better future
>> May this be just a beginning of more open spaces
>> New choices, which are the key to freedom
>> Keep us curious
>> Help us sustain the convergence
>> Instill in us a sense of urgency
>> To embrace and own the direction towards what is right and good.
>>
>>
>> --/Carmela Ariza (Manila, the Philippines)/
>>
>> _____
>>
>>
>>
>> space,
>>
>> opening
>>
>> unfolding
>>
>> wondrous
>>
>>
>>
>> /-- Kerry Napuk (Edinburgh, Scotland)/
>>
>> _____
>>
>>
>>
>> /This piece I wrote as the team of OS facilitators were designing for
>> many days the Sumatran Rhino Crisis Summit. I was reflecting on the
>> issue and I just thought about these..../
>>
>>
>> Saving the Rhinos and Me
>> by: Carmela Ariza
>> 4 March 2013, 11:52AM
>>
>> Can we really save the rhino?
>> Or are we here to save ourselves?
>> Are we talking about the rhino?
>> Or are we talking about me and you?
>> Should we talk about them?
>> Or should be talk about us?
>> It's hard when we have to look out there
>> When the answers are all in here
>> Is it the Rhino who's running out of time?
>> Or it is us who are chasing the past?
>> Tomorrow seems to be now
>> And today seems to have gone by
>> We've all come from places near or far
>> Does your presence have a reason and a rhyme
>> How can we make our conversations
>> Mean more than what we came here for
>> Perhaps we all want answers
>> The question is: what is the question?
>> How can we find what's good for the rhino?
>> If we can't find what's good for ourselves
>> Let's try to listen more
>> To the calling that's within
>> Let's try to open up the spaces
>> For the wisdom we all have to share!
>>
>>
>> -- /Carmela Ariza (Manila, the Philippines)/
>>
>> _____
>>
>>
>> Space Open Circle
>>
>> /from Open Space Technology - A Users Guide by Harrison Owen/
>> /Note: This poem is in the 'found poetry' form. I have made selections
>> from the //original text and decided how to shape and punctuate it./
>> /I have removed all the other words from the book - but none from
>> //the selected phrases./
>>
>>
>> The circle is the fundamental geometry
>> of human communication.
>>
>> A circle has no head or feet,
>> no high or low
>> no sides to take;
>> in a circle people can simply be
>> with each other,
>> face to face.
>>
>> The geometry of the circle
>> and the rhythm of breath.
>>
>> Show Up
>> Be Present
>> Tell The Truth
>> Let It All Go.
>>
>> Do nothing and remain
>> invisible.
>>
>> Be prepared
>> to be
>> surprised.
>>
>> Who ever heard of a square of friends?
>>
>>
>> -- /Jonathan Coe (London, England)/
>>
>> _____
>>
>>
>> /This was what I wrote during the Rhino Summit - I started writing
>> there and finished it after. It is a very short one.../
>>
>>
>> Spaces Made Holy for the Rhino
>>
>> I sit on holy ground
>> As people open spaces
>> To try to save the rhino
>> there are spaces
>> Between us
>> Above us
>> Inside us
>> To voice
>> To listen
>> To Respect
>> And to suspend
>> We are holding the space
>> For a flow of meaning
>> That will be shared by all
>> Even for difficult moments
>> We seek to keep the space open
>> Today, I stand firmly on holy ground
>>
>> -- /Carmela Ariza (Manila, the Philippines)/
>> /
>> /
>> /
>> /
>> /
>> /
>> /
>> /
>> /
>> /
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
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> Dear Paul,
> in my experience it does work, I have facilitated several.
> The tendency for the whole group to go to a particular session is larger
> than in a large event but there are often many small or even very small
> groups, or groups of one. So the dynamic is basically the same albeit
> more intense.
>
> However, these requests for an OST event with a small group almost
> always end up being much larger after a planning meeting with the
> sponsor (in this case, all nine could constitute the planning group).
> Basicall, in the Planning Meeting three major questions are answered:
> 1. What are our expectations regarding the outcome of the OST event?
> 2. What should be the heading for the event in light of our expectations?
> 3. Who should be invited to the event in light of our expectations and
> the title of our event?
>
> So, I would encourage you to have a traditional planning meeting.
>
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
>
>
> On 11.06.2013 14:10, Paul Nunesdea wrote:
>> List,
>>
>> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
>> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning
>> 'new company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have
>> experienced to host larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also
>> useful in a smaller group context.
>>
>> My question is twofold: - would a OS session of 9 persons would work
>> in terms of marketplace dynamics, would the sessions be too small? -
>> If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the
>> remainder of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>>
>> Your experience would be much valued!
>>
>> Best Paul
>>
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> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:42:33 -0400
> From: Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adriana at diazberrio.com>
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> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
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> Hi Paul:
> I Love you question because I can share something this time! I was really
> afraid of small OS because I had the fear that it could not be as good
> as...a big OS but I had one experience that was so good!
> I had only 7 participants but it was one day from 9:30 to 18:30 and at the
> end of the day the people did not wanted to go!
> It really was a very nice experience and everybody was so happy.
> They had proposed several topics and they had groups of 2,3,4,5 and the
> closing circle was so interesting.
> I was and very satisfied with this experience because after it I am never
> afraid of small OS.
> Trust the principle 1
> The people that come are the right ones
> (It doesn't say that this principle only applies after x number of people!
> Does it?)
> ....and the other principles to!
>
> Adriana
>
> 2013/6/11 Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
>
>> List,
>>
>> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
>> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new
>> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to host
>> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller group
>> context.
>>
>> My question is twofold:
>> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
>> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
>> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder
>> of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>>
>> Your experience would be much valued!
>>
>> Best
>> Paul
>>
>> From my iPad
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>
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> From: Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>
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> HI Paul,
>
> There is only one bit of awkwardness that I've experienced in a small
> OS. It's happened a few times. After the agenda is on the wall, one
> participant might suggest out loud that the group stay together to
> talk about all of the agenda items.
>
> If the group agrees with one another to do this, there are a couple of
> things to notice: first, they will have less time to talk about each
> topic. I do remind them of this.
>
> And second, there might be an expectation that you will now facilitate
> the group more actively, instead of holding space without intervening.
> So it might be helpful to make an agreement with the sponsor
> beforehand, that the OS style of facilitating does not involve your
> active facilitation of the topics.
>
> There are other ways to facilitate a small gathering that might serve
> the needs of the group, but in my experience, open space can work very
> well.
>
> Jeff
> San Francisco
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/11/13, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adriana at diazberrio.com> wrote:
>> Hi Paul:
>> I Love you question because I can share something this time! I was really
>> afraid of small OS because I had the fear that it could not be as good
>> as...a big OS but I had one experience that was so good!
>> I had only 7 participants but it was one day from 9:30 to 18:30 and at the
>> end of the day the people did not wanted to go!
>> It really was a very nice experience and everybody was so happy.
>> They had proposed several topics and they had groups of 2,3,4,5 and the
>> closing circle was so interesting.
>> I was and very satisfied with this experience because after it I am never
>> afraid of small OS.
>> Trust the principle 1
>> The people that come are the right ones
>> (It doesn't say that this principle only applies after x number of people!
>> Does it?)
>> ....and the other principles to!
>>
>> Adriana
>>
>> 2013/6/11 Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
>>
>>> List,
>>>
>>> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
>>> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new
>>> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to
>>> host
>>> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller
>>> group
>>> context.
>>>
>>> My question is twofold:
>>> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
>>> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
>>> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder
>>> of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>>>
>>> Your experience would be much valued!
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> From my iPad
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> OSList mailing list
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Adriana D?az-Berrio Ph.D. CRHA
>> (514) 739 2268
>> www.diazberrio.com
>>
>
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> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:09:03 -0700 (PDT)
> From: chunili2000 at yahoo.com
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> Hi Paul,
> ?
> ?
> I will comment on the 2nd part of your question.
> ?
> Issues like new org structure and downsizing have wide impact. These types of issues can be?a very good theme for a wider audience than the 9-person management team (if not the entire organization). I would suggest to the management team to consider inviting the whole organization to come and see how cares to show up.
> Who knows?? The collective wisdom may lead to solutions better than downsizing.
> At the minimum,?if people understand the issues and challenges?well, and participate in the grieving process of restructuring, they can deal with the pain?of downsizing?better.
> ?
> ?
> ?
> ?
> Chuni
> ?
> ?
> ?
> ?
> ?
>
> From: Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 8:10 AM
> Subject: [OSList] Small group OS
>
>
> List,
>
> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to host larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller group context.
>
> My question is twofold:
> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>
> Your experience would be much valued!
>
> Best
> Paul
>
> From my iPad
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> From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net>
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> Right on! Chuni!! Given the nature of the issue, doing a OS with the WHOLE
> company (at least all those who care about the company) is really critical.
> The wisdom of nine contrasted with the collective wisdom and experience of
> everybody else is pretty small, to say the least. And the buy in from
> everybody else who is not included will be, predictably, smaller. Paul, do
> yourself and your client a real favor. Have this conversation with them. If
> it were me, unless there were huge extenuating circumstances (which I
> couldn't imagine) I would make companywide (voluntary) participation a
> condition of my participation. Sounds a little harsh I guess, but
> experience, sometimes bitter, has taken me there. And if you question
> whether such a tender situation could be effectively dealt with by all
> parties in Open Space... The answer is quite simple: YES. In fact that is
> where Open Space really shines. If you look through the book, "Tales from
> Open Space" - you will find the story of a large company of 2500 downsizing
> itself to 1200 - all in a series of Open Spaces. You can find a copy at:
>
> http://openspaceworld.com/Tales.pdf
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>
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:09 AM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
>
>
>
> Hi Paul,
>
>
>
>
>
> I will comment on the 2nd part of your question.
>
>
>
> Issues like new org structure and downsizing have wide impact. These types
> of issues can be a very good theme for a wider audience than the 9-person
> management team (if not the entire organization). I would suggest to the
> management team to consider inviting the whole organization to come and see
> how cares to show up.
>
> Who knows? The collective wisdom may lead to solutions better than
> downsizing.
> At the minimum, if people understand the issues and challenges well, and
> participate in the grieving process of restructuring, they can deal with the
> pain of downsizing better.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Chuni
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 8:10 AM
> Subject: [OSList] Small group OS
>
>
> List,
>
> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new
> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to host
> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller group
> context.
>
> My question is twofold:
> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder of
> the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>
> Your experience would be much valued!
>
> Best
> Paul
>
>> From my iPad
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:40:24 -0400
> From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net>
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> I should added that the article is by Hugh Huntington and starts ( I think)
> on page 81. And for anybody else who cares, you might check out
> www.openspaceworld.com in the "books" section where you will find PDF
> versions of other out of print - but hopefully not out of date - books. They
> are all free for the taking.
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
> Harrison Owen
>
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>
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>
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> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Harrison Owen
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:32 AM
> To: chunili2000 at yahoo.com; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
>
>
>
> Right on! Chuni!! Given the nature of the issue, doing a OS with the WHOLE
> company (at least all those who care about the company) is really critical.
> The wisdom of nine contrasted with the collective wisdom and experience of
> everybody else is pretty small, to say the least. And the buy in from
> everybody else who is not included will be, predictably, smaller. Paul, do
> yourself and your client a real favor. Have this conversation with them. If
> it were me, unless there were huge extenuating circumstances (which I
> couldn't imagine) I would make companywide (voluntary) participation a
> condition of my participation. Sounds a little harsh I guess, but
> experience, sometimes bitter, has taken me there. And if you question
> whether such a tender situation could be effectively dealt with by all
> parties in Open Space... The answer is quite simple: YES. In fact that is
> where Open Space really shines. If you look through the book, "Tales from
> Open Space" - you will find the story of a large company of 2500 downsizing
> itself to 1200 - all in a series of Open Spaces. You can find a copy at:
>
> http://openspaceworld.com/Tales.pdf
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
> Harrison Owen
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> USA
>
>
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>
> Camden, Maine 04843
>
>
>
> Phone 301-365-2093
>
> (summer) 207-763-3261
>
>
>
> www.openspaceworld.com
>
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>
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> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of
> chunili2000 at yahoo.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:09 AM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
>
>
>
> Hi Paul,
>
>
>
>
>
> I will comment on the 2nd part of your question.
>
>
>
> Issues like new org structure and downsizing have wide impact. These types
> of issues can be a very good theme for a wider audience than the 9-person
> management team (if not the entire organization). I would suggest to the
> management team to consider inviting the whole organization to come and see
> how cares to show up.
>
> Who knows? The collective wisdom may lead to solutions better than
> downsizing.
> At the minimum, if people understand the issues and challenges well, and
> participate in the grieving process of restructuring, they can deal with the
> pain of downsizing better.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Chuni
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 8:10 AM
> Subject: [OSList] Small group OS
>
>
> List,
>
> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new
> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to host
> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller group
> context.
>
> My question is twofold:
> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder of
> the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>
> Your experience would be much valued!
>
> Best
> Paul
>
>> From my iPad
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> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:43:50 -0700 (PDT)
> From: june parham <jparham2000 at yahoo.com>
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> a couple of weeks ago, I also had a very small group, around 7.? It ended up to be a marvelous discussion.? We only had 2 hours from start to finish.? I broke the rules and became involved in a discussion.? It was a ?very positive experience.? A couple of attendees came to our session last year at the same conference.? One topic was how to bring OST into the classroom, fascinating!!!!!!? Whoever come are the right people, they were there.? The session was at a conference in beautiful Lake Louise Alberta.?
> ?
> June
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> From: yaari pannwitz <yaari at bg5.de>
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> hi paul,
>
> i experienced a few open spaces with a rather unusual small number of participants. from my point of view it works quite well, thus it can get fairly rough and intense and beautifully exhaustive for everyone involved.
> alongside i noticed that one as facilitator is far more present and being focused by the pax (compared with facilitating larger groups). i always remind myself to be aware of this effect in advance.
>
> enjoy
>
> yaari
>
>
>
> Am 11.06.2013 um 14:10 schrieb Paul Nunesdea:
>
>> List,
>>
>> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to host larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller group context.
>>
>> My question is twofold:
>> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
>> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>>
>> Your experience would be much valued!
>>
>> Best
>> Paul
>>
>> From my iPad
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:50:08 -0400
> From: Suzanne Daigle <sdaigle4 at gmail.com>
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> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
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> Dear Paul,
>
> No apologies for the recurrent questions. I love your questions; they are
> very real and inspire me more than you realize.
>
> During my corporate career, I was involved in acquisitions and
> downsizings. Much prefer the first to the second however, what I learned
> is that it is during those times that we need to open space, build trust,
> be supporting each other and ultimately doing the best we can for the
> people and the business.
>
> As Chuni mentions, it would be good if all could be included in the
> discussion however I know that in situations like these, it is not always
> possible to do so.
>
> I also agree with Jeff that a small group may be inclined to keep everyone
> together and without directing them one way or another, it's helpful to
> remind them of following their passion and where they want to take
> responsibility.
>
> And now I've just seen Harrison's email and certainly it would be best to
> involve all and do try that route working with a diverse planning team to
> set the theme, the benefits of this approach, etc.
>
> That said, if it is not possible, do not be deterred by the small group. I
> know the Marketplace wall of topics will become that space for people to
> speak the spoken and the unsaid and in downsizing, it is the unsaid that is
> the toughest to deal with.
>
> Don't hesitate to reach out again as this evolves. Thank you for including
> us.
>
> Suzanne
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:10 AM, Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com> wrote:
>
>> List,
>>
>> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
>> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new
>> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to host
>> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller group
>> context.
>>
>> My question is twofold:
>> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
>> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
>> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder
>> of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>>
>> Your experience would be much valued!
>>
>> Best
>> Paul
>>
>> From my iPad
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>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:23:57 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Diane Gibeault <diane.gibeault at rogers.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> Hi,
>
> When I facilitated a team of 7, when some people suggested to stick as a group for all topics, I encouraged them to try out the OS approach for at least the first round and see for themselves if they will experience something useful and different from their usual way of working.?
>
> They did and never looked back at the stick together idea. The room was buzzing with small and larger conversations, short and long, and lots of bumblebees.
>
> It works!
>
> Diane
>
>
>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:53:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
>>
>>
>> HI Paul,
>>
>> There is only one bit of awkwardness that I've experienced in a small
>> OS. It's happened a few times. After the agenda is on the wall, one
>> participant might suggest out loud that the group stay together to
>> talk about all of the agenda items.
>>
>> If the group agrees with one another to do this, there are a couple of
>> things to notice: first, they will have less time to talk about each
>> topic. I do remind them of this.
>>
>> And second, there might be an expectation that you will now facilitate
>> the group more actively, instead of holding space without intervening.
>> So it might be helpful to make an agreement with the sponsor
>> beforehand, that the OS style of facilitating does not involve your
>> active facilitation of the topics.
>>
>> There are other ways to facilitate a small gathering that might serve
>> the needs of the group, but in my experience, open space can work very
>> well.
>>
>> Jeff
>> San Francisco
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/11/13, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adriana at diazberrio.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Paul:
>>> I Love you question because I can share something this time! I was really
>>> afraid of small OS because I had the fear that it could not be as good
>>> as...a big OS but I had one experience that was so good!
>>> I had only 7 participants but it was one day from 9:30 to 18:30 and at the
>>> end of the day the people did not wanted to go!
>>> It really was a very nice experience and everybody was so happy.
>>> They? had proposed several topics and they had groups of 2,3,4,5 and the
>>> closing circle was so interesting.
>>> ? I was and very satisfied with this experience because after it I am never
>>> afraid of small OS.
>>> Trust the principle 1
>>> The people that come are the right ones
>>> ? (It doesn't say that this principle only applies after x number of people!
>>> Does it?)
>>> ....and the other principles to!
>>>
>>> Adriana
>>>
>>> 2013/6/11 Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
>>>
>>>> List,
>>>>
>>>> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
>>>> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new
>>>> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to
>>>> host
>>>> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller
>>>> group
>>>> context.
>>>>
>>>> My question is twofold:
>>>> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
>>>> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
>>>> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder
>>>> of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>>>>
>>>> Your experience would be much valued!
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> From my iPad
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> OSList mailing list
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Adriana D?az-Berrio Ph.D. CRHA
>>> (514) 739 2268
>>> www.diazberrio.com
>>>
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> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 19:33:39 +0200
> From: Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
> To: Diane Gibeault <diane.gibeault at rogers.com>, World wide Open Space
> Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> List, your responses are a true blessing and the tenderness and passion I feel from you is truly empowering - THANK YOU.
>
> From my iPad
>
> On 11/06/2013, at 18:23, Diane Gibeault <diane.gibeault at rogers.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> When I facilitated a team of 7, when some people suggested to stick as a group for all topics, I encouraged them to try out the OS approach for at least the first round and see for themselves if they will experience something useful and different from their usual way of working.
>>
>> They did and never looked back at the stick together idea. The room was buzzing with small and larger conversations, short and long, and lots of bumblebees.
>>
>> It works!
>>
>> Diane
>>
>>
>> From: Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:53:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
>>
>> HI Paul,
>>
>> There is only one bit of awkwardness that I've experienced in a small
>> OS. It's happened a few times. After the agenda is on the wall, one
>> participant might suggest out loud that the group stay together to
>> talk about all of the agenda items.
>>
>> If the group agrees with one another to do this, there are a couple of
>> things to notice: first, they will have less time to talk about each
>> topic. I do remind them of this.
>>
>> And second, there might be an expectation that you will now facilitate
>> the group more actively, instead of holding space without intervening.
>> So it might be helpful to make an agreement with the sponsor
>> beforehand, that the OS style of facilitating does not involve your
>> active facilitation of the topics.
>>
>> There are other ways to facilitate a small gathering that might serve
>> the needs of the group, but in my experience, open space can work very
>> well.
>>
>> Jeff
>> San Francisco
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/11/13, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adriana at diazberrio.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Paul:
>>> I Love you question because I can share something this time! I was really
>>> afraid of small OS because I had the fear that it could not be as good
>>> as...a big OS but I had one experience that was so good!
>>> I had only 7 participants but it was one day from 9:30 to 18:30 and at the
>>> end of the day the people did not wanted to go!
>>> It really was a very nice experience and everybody was so happy.
>>> They had proposed several topics and they had groups of 2,3,4,5 and the
>>> closing circle was so interesting.
>>> I was and very satisfied with this experience because after it I am never
>>> afraid of small OS.
>>> Trust the principle 1
>>> The people that come are the right ones
>>> (It doesn't say that this principle only applies after x number of people!
>>> Does it?)
>>> ....and the other principles to!
>>>
>>> Adriana
>>>
>>> 2013/6/11 Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
>>>
>>>> List,
>>>>
>>>> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
>>>> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning 'new
>>>> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to
>>>> host
>>>> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller
>>>> group
>>>> context.
>>>>
>>>> My question is twofold:
>>>> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
>>>> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
>>>> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the remainder
>>>> of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>>>>
>>>> Your experience would be much valued!
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> From my iPad
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> OSList mailing list
>>>> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
>>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Adriana D?az-Berrio Ph.D. CRHA
>>> (514) 739 2268
>>> www.diazberrio.com
>>>
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> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 21:48:11 +0200
> From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
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> Dear Harrison,
> actually, I often have felt the way you describe, why dont they just
> send out an invitation to everyone!
> I never made it a condition for taking on the job.
> However, I have made it a condition to have both a contact meeting
> (mostly to have the sponsor look at the prerequisites for an OST) and a
> Planning Meeting.
> If they agree and actually take those two steps (sometimes it ends with
> the contact meeting, because they feel the prerequisites are not in
> place), the result has always been to send out invitations to more than
> originally intended or to everyone in their system and often folks they
> never had had on their screen before.
> What I like about this approach is that its them making the decisions
> and their passion and responsibility.
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
> On 11.06.2013 17:31, Harrison Owen wrote:
>> Right on! Chuni!! Given the nature of the issue, doing a OS with the
>> WHOLE company (at least all those who care about the company) is really
>> critical. The wisdom of nine contrasted with the collective wisdom and
>> experience of everybody else is pretty small, to say the least. And the
>> buy in from everybody else who is not included will be, predictably,
>> smaller. Paul, do yourself and your client a real favor. Have this
>> conversation with them. If it were me, unless there were huge
>> extenuating circumstances (which I couldn?t imagine) I would make
>> companywide (voluntary) participation a condition of my participation.
>> Sounds a little harsh I guess, but experience, sometimes bitter, has
>> taken me there. And if you question whether such a tender situation
>> could be effectively dealt with by all parties in Open Space... The
>> answer is quite simple: YES. In fact that is where Open Space really
>> shines. If you look through the book, ?Tales from Open Space? ? you will
>> find the story of a large company of 2500 downsizing itself to 1200 ?
>> all in a series of Open Spaces. You can find a copy at:
>>
>> http://openspaceworld.com/Tales.pdf
>>
>> Harrison
>>
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>> *From:*oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of
>> *chunili2000 at yahoo.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:09 AM
>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Small group OS
>>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> I will comment on the 2nd part of your question.
>>
>> Issues like new org structure and downsizing have wide impact. These
>> types of issues can be a very good theme for a wider audience than the
>> 9-person management team (if not the entire organization). I would
>> suggest to the management team to consider inviting the whole
>> organization to come and see how cares to show up.
>>
>> Who knows? The collective wisdom may lead to solutions better than
>> downsizing.
>> At the minimum, if people understand the issues and challenges well, and
>> participate in the grieving process of restructuring, they can deal with
>> the pain of downsizing better.
>>
>> Chuni
>>
>> *From:*Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com <mailto:nunesdea at me.com>>
>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 11, 2013 8:10 AM
>> *Subject:* [OSList] Small group OS
>>
>>
>> List,
>>
>> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
>> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning
>> 'new company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced
>> to host larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a
>> smaller group context.
>>
>> My question is twofold:
>> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
>> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
>> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the
>> remainder of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>>
>> Your experience would be much valued!
>>
>> Best
>> Paul
>>
>> From my iPad
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> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 15:55:24 -0400
> From: Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adriana at diazberrio.com>
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> Subject: Re: [OSList] Small group OS
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> Paul: I appreciate a lot to be part of this group and you can always
> remember, here you are not alone!
> Adriana
>
> 2013/6/11 Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
>
>> List, your responses are a true blessing and the tenderness and passion I
>> feel from you is truly empowering - THANK YOU.
>>
>> From my iPad
>>
>> On 11/06/2013, at 18:23, Diane Gibeault <diane.gibeault at rogers.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> When I facilitated a team of 7, when some people suggested to stick as a
>> group for all topics, I encouraged them to try out the OS approach for at
>> least the first round and see for themselves if they will experience
>> something useful and different from their usual way of working.
>>
>> They did and never looked back at the stick together idea. The room was
>> buzzing with small and larger conversations, short and long, and lots of
>> bumblebees.
>>
>> It works!
>>
>> Diane
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>
>> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:53:29 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Small group OS
>>
>> HI Paul,
>>
>> There is only one bit of awkwardness that I've experienced in a small
>> OS. It's happened a few times. After the agenda is on the wall, one
>> participant might suggest out loud that the group stay together to
>> talk about all of the agenda items.
>>
>> If the group agrees with one another to do this, there are a couple of
>> things to notice: first, they will have less time to talk about each
>> topic. I do remind them of this.
>>
>> And second, there might be an expectation that you will now facilitate
>> the group more actively, instead of holding space without intervening.
>> So it might be helpful to make an agreement with the sponsor
>> beforehand, that the OS style of facilitating does not involve your
>> active facilitation of the topics.
>>
>> There are other ways to facilitate a small gathering that might serve
>> the needs of the group, but in my experience, open space can work very
>> well.
>>
>> Jeff
>> San Francisco
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/11/13, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adriana at diazberrio.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Paul:
>>> I Love you question because I can share something this time! I was really
>>> afraid of small OS because I had the fear that it could not be as good
>>> as...a big OS but I had one experience that was so good!
>>> I had only 7 participants but it was one day from 9:30 to 18:30 and at
>> the
>>> end of the day the people did not wanted to go!
>>> It really was a very nice experience and everybody was so happy.
>>> They had proposed several topics and they had groups of 2,3,4,5 and the
>>> closing circle was so interesting.
>>> I was and very satisfied with this experience because after it I am
>> never
>>> afraid of small OS.
>>> Trust the principle 1
>>> The people that come are the right ones
>>> (It doesn't say that this principle only applies after x number of
>> people!
>>> Does it?)
>>> ....and the other principles to!
>>>
>>> Adriana
>>>
>>> 2013/6/11 Paul Nunesdea <nunesdea at me.com>
>>>
>>>> List,
>>>>
>>>> Apologies if this is a recurrent question... Would opening space at
>>>> management team level (9 persons) would work? The issue is a burning
>> 'new
>>>> company structure' eventually facing a downsize. I have experienced to
>>>> host
>>>> larger groups OS but wonder how it would be also useful in a smaller
>>>> group
>>>> context.
>>>>
>>>> My question is twofold:
>>>> - would a OS session of 9 persons would work in terms of marketplace
>>>> dynamics, would the sessions be too small?
>>>> - If that works well, then I wonder if extending results to the
>> remainder
>>>> of the company not in the OS meeting would be effective?
>>>>
>>>> Your experience would be much valued!
>>>>
>>>> Best
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> From my iPad
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