[OSList] Occupy report

Tue May 8 08:58:47 PDT 2012

Hi Harrison 

My communication if this disrupter happens in an opening circle is usually:  "that sounds like a great session to call! Think of your short punchy title!"

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On 8 May 2012, at 16:50, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:

> Chris – Great to see you – and to know that you are, as always, the Gentleman. I suggested turning my back, and you offer conversation. But there was a difference in situation. You were talking about the Core Planning group… and for sure conversation along the lines you suggest is in order and essential. My mistake was that I read Raffi to be talking about the appearance of a “destabilizer” in the Opening circle. And when I run into one of those, I do turn my back and keep moving, knowing that if I stop and try some kind of conversation (answer) that could go on all day and we would never get the space open. I do the same thing with “honest questions.” I know that sounds rude, but my experience has been that whatever questions somebody might have will get answered as soon as we start. I have also learned that the questions/statements offered by the “destabilizer” will never get answered, and that is precisely his/her point. “destabilizer” used to be “Space Invader,” but maybe “destabilizer” sounds a little more academic – or something?
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> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 8:28 PM
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> I deal with people anxious to disrupt the process by pointing out that that appears to be what they are doing.  And then we talk about that.
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> I am happy to have skeptics on a planning group, but not cynics.  The reason is that while both are high on doubt, only the skeptioc is high on hope.  Cynics who are high on doubt and low on hope can suck a lot of energy out of a process.  So early on it is worth pointing out that "problem seeking" is not a behaviour that is going to get us where we need to go in terms of planning.  
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> The best plan is to talk about that and talk about what it would take to have people work from a place of possibility, while still keeping their eyes on real constraints.  AS I get older and more experienced I let people know pretty clearly that, while cynics are certainly welcome at the event, I won't work with cynics on a core team.  Bring on skepticism and doubt, just be sure to use that to make our effort MORE possible and not less so.
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> That's my two cents.
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> Chris  
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> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Raffi Aftandelian <raffi_1970 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Harrison, Michele-jan, salam!
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> Harrison, thanks for your thoughts. Especially helpful to hear the reminder that the process is doing me!
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> Michele-
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> I didn't quite understand the question
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> "Is it possible that research into perhaps a new law could highlight, an approach to your feeling of planned disruption?"
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> Can you explain?
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> Hope this helps!
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> appreciatively,
> Raffi
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> From: "frankelmichele at gmail.com" <frankelmichele at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Monday, 7 May 2012, 14:32
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> Hi Raffi
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> Is it possible that research into perhaps a new law could highlight, an approach to your feeling of planned disruption?
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> I appreciate this is a hot potato and I am a great academic failure, personally.
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> But the topic interests me, still WOSNOS is coming, to London and maybe I will understand more then?
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> Genuine contact I think I have experienced it! But is there somewhere I could read more?
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> Michele
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