[OSList] Steve Jobs & Open Space

Mon Dec 5 14:50:16 PST 2011

wow, larry, you are taking on a big bite of nonfiction after a two year diet!

i am fascinated by deacon's ability to conceptualize an entirely
material evolution into life and then into consciousness - some
breakthroughs in thinking that are quite potent.

(even tho i don't agree that's all that is happening.)

btw there are some interesting shorter articles on Deacon's website
including one coauthored by Ty Cashman who is a favorite of mine.

jeff

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Larry Peterson <larry at spiritedorg.com> wrote:
> Skye:  You said “Each being/entity is self-directed and a closed system.”  I
> believe that there in fact is no such thing as a closed system – we may try
> with sense of “purpose” to make a good container, but everything, every
> entity interacts with its environment as it “concresses (sp?)” – comes into
> being (Whitehead).  I do believe in the power of “purpose” to affect
> material reality.  I’ve just started reading Deacon’s “Incomplete Nature:
> How mind emerged from matter” which tries to understand purpose and
> direction from a scientific perspective.  Don’t know where its going yet but
> Jeff Aitkin said it was good and he is on a very interesting healing
> journey.
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> I have only read novels for two years so this journey is interesting to me.
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> Wozniak tried to give the Apple mother board away to open  systems – Jobs
> said “no way” and created a company that has become the biggest financially
> in the world.
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> Larry
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> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Skye Hirst
> Sent: December-03-11 4:13 PM
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> Larry, Thanks so much for that overview of the Jobs biography.  I'd like to
> explore your question of how does what he did in  his self-centered ways,
> lead to such productivity and quality of result?  Where is the Open Space
> and self-organization?    Each being/entity is self-directed and a closed
> system. (with the exception of energy consumption) Jobs could only be
> himself.  His "subjective aim"  was in focus for him within himself and he
> and he alone could know if what was being created was coherent with that
> vision.  There is an intensity that comes with "being on purpose"  and it is
> contagious I believe.  it also acts as inspiration for others to act in ways
> that call out "being on purpose/true to  yourself"  insisting on what is
> truth for your being nature.  But there is an even deeper nature that
> provides coherence for this process and that's just being discovered - there
> are laws of living/creative coherence - I believe that's what Harrison and
> so many here speak and point to that they experience through Open Space
> processes.
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> When people are called together under these conditions,  something wonderful
> can happen as "the many become one and are increased by one" in the words of
> Whitehead.  This is the creative process of life becoming = it connects us
> to our aliveness, we find meaning and fulfillment when we act in concert
> with our purpose and even more meaning when that purpose can be joined with
> others doing the same. The personal purpose within a greater purpose that
> has meaning, worthiness and even urgency which one could see in the Apple
> environment, provides deep satisfaction for each participant in the vision.
>  If you look up the word compete, it means to "seek together."  There is a
> value sense of  satisfaction as we fulfill our own uniqueness of being and
> sense the connection to a greater whole.  Any environment that creates such
> conditions for life - is as Harrison says, "how life works if we let it."
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> Help! Sorry for the language - we are exploring a realm that needs new
> language and so we work here at Autognomics to find new ways of talking
> about these emerging discoveries of life, living processes and how life
> creates, knows itself - Open Space and Open Spacers are pointing out
> beautifully  that "process IS reality"  - a value sensing process and as we
> share our own inner experiencing of this process we discover hopefully the
> bigger picture and ways of Life-itself, it's self-organizing and
> connectedness.  Thanks for reading this far, Skye
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> On Dec 3, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Larry Peterson wrote:
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> I just finished reading Walter Isaacson's book "Steve Jobs". The last
> chapter has an interesting summary of some of the issues that his successful
> life raises particularly with regard to open versus closed IT product
> systems.
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> Jobs chose to drive towards integrated, high quality, creative design and
> mostly closed products and systems. The openness is primarily for app
> developers who can count on a consistent operating system across products.
> This makes it easier to develop high quality applications that you know will
> work on phones iPad or iPod my son says.
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> Jobs did not believe in market research because his ideas were beyond
> anyone's expectations and he believed that this vision would create the
> products that people would want. He pushed his engineers and the details of
> his vision mercilessly. Even Isaacson saw that the technical term assh*le
> applied to him quite often. He was a self centered Zen Buddhist who did not
> appropriate the more subtle qualities of a caring person. He was open to
> learning as long as it came to be his idea.
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> His vision “opened space” for those who would work at their top level to
> realize it.  When they didn’t he was mean and spiteful. And many didn’t
> understand his view of good design together with good technology.  He was
> used to getting what he wanted, even as a child, and this provided the
> hubris to move forward.  The space of silicon valley with its nutrient rich
> environment of engineers and garages and good schools made it possible for
> Apple to get going.  His personal Zen Buddist journey provided the self
> development, but did not make him self aware, just confident in his own
> vision.
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> People around the world got engaged in his visionary leadership and became
> followers of Apple as a counter culture product, even when it stumbled. It
> certainly has worked in the market place to integrate superior products that
> then set the model for the others to come.  Will Google and Microsoft be
> able to catch up?
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> As a PC person, I now find the products are quite amazing and the
> integration makes it easy for me to connect my iPad with my iPhone and
> project pictures on Apple TV with out enormous effort and technical
> know-how. The products and the integration are fun even if they are more
> costly. I think the book is a great read .
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> So where is the Open Space and the self-organization, other than at the
> beginning – maybe that was enough for real, committed if crazy leadership to
> emerge?
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> Larry
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