[OSList] Steve Jobs & Open Space

Christine Whitney Sanchez cwhitneysanchez at gmail.com
Mon Dec 5 18:30:37 PST 2011


Hi Jeff,

Can you point me to Deacon's website?  Thanks for your recommendations
Christine

Christine Whitney Sanchez, Partner
Innovation Partners International
480.759.0262
www.innovationpartners.com
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On Dec 5, 2011, at 3:50 PM, Jeff Aitken wrote:

> wow, larry, you are taking on a big bite of nonfiction after a two  
> year diet!
>
> i am fascinated by deacon's ability to conceptualize an entirely
> material evolution into life and then into consciousness - some
> breakthroughs in thinking that are quite potent.
>
> (even tho i don't agree that's all that is happening.)
>
> btw there are some interesting shorter articles on Deacon's website
> including one coauthored by Ty Cashman who is a favorite of mine.
>
> jeff
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Larry Peterson  
> <larry at spiritedorg.com> wrote:
>> Skye:  You said ?Each being/entity is self-directed and a closed  
>> system.?  I
>> believe that there in fact is no such thing as a closed system ? we  
>> may try
>> with sense of ?purpose? to make a good container, but everything,  
>> every
>> entity interacts with its environment as it ?concresses (sp?)? ?  
>> comes into
>> being (Whitehead).  I do believe in the power of ?purpose? to affect
>> material reality.  I?ve just started reading Deacon?s ?Incomplete  
>> Nature:
>> How mind emerged from matter? which tries to understand purpose and
>> direction from a scientific perspective.  Don?t know where its  
>> going yet but
>> Jeff Aitkin said it was good and he is on a very interesting healing
>> journey.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have only read novels for two years so this journey is  
>> interesting to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> Wozniak tried to give the Apple mother board away to open  systems  
>> ? Jobs
>> said ?no way? and created a company that has become the biggest  
>> financially
>> in the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> Interesting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>>
>> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Skye  
>> Hirst
>> Sent: December-03-11 4:13 PM
>>
>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Steve Jobs & Open Space
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry, Thanks so much for that overview of the Jobs biography.  I'd  
>> like to
>> explore your question of how does what he did in  his self-centered  
>> ways,
>> lead to such productivity and quality of result?  Where is the Open  
>> Space
>> and self-organization?    Each being/entity is self-directed and a  
>> closed
>> system. (with the exception of energy consumption) Jobs could only be
>> himself.  His "subjective aim"  was in focus for him within himself  
>> and he
>> and he alone could know if what was being created was coherent with  
>> that
>> vision.  There is an intensity that comes with "being on purpose"   
>> and it is
>> contagious I believe.  it also acts as inspiration for others to  
>> act in ways
>> that call out "being on purpose/true to  yourself"  insisting on  
>> what is
>> truth for your being nature.  But there is an even deeper nature that
>> provides coherence for this process and that's just being  
>> discovered - there
>> are laws of living/creative coherence - I believe that's what  
>> Harrison and
>> so many here speak and point to that they experience through Open  
>> Space
>> processes.
>>
>>
>>
>> When people are called together under these conditions,  something  
>> wonderful
>> can happen as "the many become one and are increased by one" in the  
>> words of
>> Whitehead.  This is the creative process of life becoming = it  
>> connects us
>> to our aliveness, we find meaning and fulfillment when we act in  
>> concert
>> with our purpose and even more meaning when that purpose can be  
>> joined with
>> others doing the same. The personal purpose within a greater  
>> purpose that
>> has meaning, worthiness and even urgency which one could see in the  
>> Apple
>> environment, provides deep satisfaction for each participant in the  
>> vision.
>>  If you look up the word compete, it means to "seek together."   
>> There is a
>> value sense of  satisfaction as we fulfill our own uniqueness of  
>> being and
>> sense the connection to a greater whole.  Any environment that  
>> creates such
>> conditions for life - is as Harrison says, "how life works if we  
>> let it."
>>
>>
>>
>> Help! Sorry for the language - we are exploring a realm that needs  
>> new
>> language and so we work here at Autognomics to find new ways of  
>> talking
>> about these emerging discoveries of life, living processes and how  
>> life
>> creates, knows itself - Open Space and Open Spacers are pointing out
>> beautifully  that "process IS reality"  - a value sensing process  
>> and as we
>> share our own inner experiencing of this process we discover  
>> hopefully the
>> bigger picture and ways of Life-itself, it's self-organizing and
>> connectedness.  Thanks for reading this far, Skye
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Larry Peterson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I just finished reading Walter Isaacson's book "Steve Jobs". The last
>> chapter has an interesting summary of some of the issues that his  
>> successful
>> life raises particularly with regard to open versus closed IT product
>> systems.
>>
>> Jobs chose to drive towards integrated, high quality, creative  
>> design and
>> mostly closed products and systems. The openness is primarily for app
>> developers who can count on a consistent operating system across  
>> products.
>> This makes it easier to develop high quality applications that you  
>> know will
>> work on phones iPad or iPod my son says.
>>
>> Jobs did not believe in market research because his ideas were beyond
>> anyone's expectations and he believed that this vision would create  
>> the
>> products that people would want. He pushed his engineers and the  
>> details of
>> his vision mercilessly. Even Isaacson saw that the technical term  
>> assh*le
>> applied to him quite often. He was a self centered Zen Buddhist who  
>> did not
>> appropriate the more subtle qualities of a caring person. He was  
>> open to
>> learning as long as it came to be his idea.
>>
>> His vision ?opened space? for those who would work at their top  
>> level to
>> realize it.  When they didn?t he was mean and spiteful. And many  
>> didn?t
>> understand his view of good design together with good technology.   
>> He was
>> used to getting what he wanted, even as a child, and this provided  
>> the
>> hubris to move forward.  The space of silicon valley with its  
>> nutrient rich
>> environment of engineers and garages and good schools made it  
>> possible for
>> Apple to get going.  His personal Zen Buddist journey provided the  
>> self
>> development, but did not make him self aware, just confident in his  
>> own
>> vision.
>>
>>
>> People around the world got engaged in his visionary leadership and  
>> became
>> followers of Apple as a counter culture product, even when it  
>> stumbled. It
>> certainly has worked in the market place to integrate superior  
>> products that
>> then set the model for the others to come.  Will Google and  
>> Microsoft be
>> able to catch up?
>>
>> As a PC person, I now find the products are quite amazing and the
>> integration makes it easy for me to connect my iPad with my iPhone  
>> and
>> project pictures on Apple TV with out enormous effort and technical
>> know-how. The products and the integration are fun even if they are  
>> more
>> costly. I think the book is a great read .
>>
>> So where is the Open Space and the self-organization, other than at  
>> the
>> beginning ? maybe that was enough for real, committed if crazy  
>> leadership to
>> emerge?
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry Peterson & Associates in Transformation
>>
>> Toronto, Ontario, Canada
>>
>> larry at spiritedorg.com   416.653.4829 http://www.spiritedorg.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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