[OSList] Steve Jobs & Open Space
Christine Whitney Sanchez
cwhitneysanchez at gmail.com
Mon Dec 5 18:30:37 PST 2011
Hi Jeff,
Can you point me to Deacon's website? Thanks for your recommendations
Christine
Christine Whitney Sanchez, Partner
Innovation Partners International
480.759.0262
www.innovationpartners.com
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On Dec 5, 2011, at 3:50 PM, Jeff Aitken wrote:
> wow, larry, you are taking on a big bite of nonfiction after a two
> year diet!
>
> i am fascinated by deacon's ability to conceptualize an entirely
> material evolution into life and then into consciousness - some
> breakthroughs in thinking that are quite potent.
>
> (even tho i don't agree that's all that is happening.)
>
> btw there are some interesting shorter articles on Deacon's website
> including one coauthored by Ty Cashman who is a favorite of mine.
>
> jeff
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Larry Peterson
> <larry at spiritedorg.com> wrote:
>> Skye: You said ?Each being/entity is self-directed and a closed
>> system.? I
>> believe that there in fact is no such thing as a closed system ? we
>> may try
>> with sense of ?purpose? to make a good container, but everything,
>> every
>> entity interacts with its environment as it ?concresses (sp?)? ?
>> comes into
>> being (Whitehead). I do believe in the power of ?purpose? to affect
>> material reality. I?ve just started reading Deacon?s ?Incomplete
>> Nature:
>> How mind emerged from matter? which tries to understand purpose and
>> direction from a scientific perspective. Don?t know where its
>> going yet but
>> Jeff Aitkin said it was good and he is on a very interesting healing
>> journey.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have only read novels for two years so this journey is
>> interesting to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> Wozniak tried to give the Apple mother board away to open systems
>> ? Jobs
>> said ?no way? and created a company that has become the biggest
>> financially
>> in the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> Interesting.
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>>
>> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Skye
>> Hirst
>> Sent: December-03-11 4:13 PM
>>
>>
>> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Steve Jobs & Open Space
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry, Thanks so much for that overview of the Jobs biography. I'd
>> like to
>> explore your question of how does what he did in his self-centered
>> ways,
>> lead to such productivity and quality of result? Where is the Open
>> Space
>> and self-organization? Each being/entity is self-directed and a
>> closed
>> system. (with the exception of energy consumption) Jobs could only be
>> himself. His "subjective aim" was in focus for him within himself
>> and he
>> and he alone could know if what was being created was coherent with
>> that
>> vision. There is an intensity that comes with "being on purpose"
>> and it is
>> contagious I believe. it also acts as inspiration for others to
>> act in ways
>> that call out "being on purpose/true to yourself" insisting on
>> what is
>> truth for your being nature. But there is an even deeper nature that
>> provides coherence for this process and that's just being
>> discovered - there
>> are laws of living/creative coherence - I believe that's what
>> Harrison and
>> so many here speak and point to that they experience through Open
>> Space
>> processes.
>>
>>
>>
>> When people are called together under these conditions, something
>> wonderful
>> can happen as "the many become one and are increased by one" in the
>> words of
>> Whitehead. This is the creative process of life becoming = it
>> connects us
>> to our aliveness, we find meaning and fulfillment when we act in
>> concert
>> with our purpose and even more meaning when that purpose can be
>> joined with
>> others doing the same. The personal purpose within a greater
>> purpose that
>> has meaning, worthiness and even urgency which one could see in the
>> Apple
>> environment, provides deep satisfaction for each participant in the
>> vision.
>> If you look up the word compete, it means to "seek together."
>> There is a
>> value sense of satisfaction as we fulfill our own uniqueness of
>> being and
>> sense the connection to a greater whole. Any environment that
>> creates such
>> conditions for life - is as Harrison says, "how life works if we
>> let it."
>>
>>
>>
>> Help! Sorry for the language - we are exploring a realm that needs
>> new
>> language and so we work here at Autognomics to find new ways of
>> talking
>> about these emerging discoveries of life, living processes and how
>> life
>> creates, knows itself - Open Space and Open Spacers are pointing out
>> beautifully that "process IS reality" - a value sensing process
>> and as we
>> share our own inner experiencing of this process we discover
>> hopefully the
>> bigger picture and ways of Life-itself, it's self-organizing and
>> connectedness. Thanks for reading this far, Skye
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 3, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Larry Peterson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I just finished reading Walter Isaacson's book "Steve Jobs". The last
>> chapter has an interesting summary of some of the issues that his
>> successful
>> life raises particularly with regard to open versus closed IT product
>> systems.
>>
>> Jobs chose to drive towards integrated, high quality, creative
>> design and
>> mostly closed products and systems. The openness is primarily for app
>> developers who can count on a consistent operating system across
>> products.
>> This makes it easier to develop high quality applications that you
>> know will
>> work on phones iPad or iPod my son says.
>>
>> Jobs did not believe in market research because his ideas were beyond
>> anyone's expectations and he believed that this vision would create
>> the
>> products that people would want. He pushed his engineers and the
>> details of
>> his vision mercilessly. Even Isaacson saw that the technical term
>> assh*le
>> applied to him quite often. He was a self centered Zen Buddhist who
>> did not
>> appropriate the more subtle qualities of a caring person. He was
>> open to
>> learning as long as it came to be his idea.
>>
>> His vision ?opened space? for those who would work at their top
>> level to
>> realize it. When they didn?t he was mean and spiteful. And many
>> didn?t
>> understand his view of good design together with good technology.
>> He was
>> used to getting what he wanted, even as a child, and this provided
>> the
>> hubris to move forward. The space of silicon valley with its
>> nutrient rich
>> environment of engineers and garages and good schools made it
>> possible for
>> Apple to get going. His personal Zen Buddist journey provided the
>> self
>> development, but did not make him self aware, just confident in his
>> own
>> vision.
>>
>>
>> People around the world got engaged in his visionary leadership and
>> became
>> followers of Apple as a counter culture product, even when it
>> stumbled. It
>> certainly has worked in the market place to integrate superior
>> products that
>> then set the model for the others to come. Will Google and
>> Microsoft be
>> able to catch up?
>>
>> As a PC person, I now find the products are quite amazing and the
>> integration makes it easy for me to connect my iPad with my iPhone
>> and
>> project pictures on Apple TV with out enormous effort and technical
>> know-how. The products and the integration are fun even if they are
>> more
>> costly. I think the book is a great read .
>>
>> So where is the Open Space and the self-organization, other than at
>> the
>> beginning ? maybe that was enough for real, committed if crazy
>> leadership to
>> emerge?
>>
>> Larry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry Peterson & Associates in Transformation
>>
>> Toronto, Ontario, Canada
>>
>> larry at spiritedorg.com 416.653.4829 http://www.spiritedorg.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Skye Hirst, PhD
>>
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>>
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>>
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