Opening Space in Bilbao_CONSP!RING EUTOKIA
Michael M Pannwitz
mmpanne at boscop.org
Sun Nov 14 11:52:40 PST 2010
Dear Elder,
you got yourself an amazing contract there!
Regarding your third * my experience is that nothing is required after
the intial introduction. People arriving after the introduction just
seem to be able to phase in by whatever process... mostly, I assume,
because it is just "natural" and there are other people around showing you.
Regarding your fifth * I think you might want to do what the sponsor
suggests. If he/she wants a bilingual intro make sure you get paid for
that extra service and do it. If it is just your idea, caution is in
order. If everybody knows Spanish....why....or put differently, I dont
feel myself responsible for what happens but for supporting the
framework in which the forces of selforganisation might flourish...
without being attached to a particular outcome.
And since an intro in one language is shorter a lot speaks for that
version... people getting to do their thing sooner!
I would like to see the mind map!!
See you in Sardinia in May of next year
cheers
mmp
ELEDER AURTENETXE PILDAIN wrote:
> EUTOKIA is a place for what is called social innovation supported by the
> Bilbao Council. It's being inaugurated starting tomorrow and finishing
> with a half day Open Space event I was invited to facilitate just last
> Monday: 3D BURUMAPA.
>
> The conditions have been quite special. Some points about it:
>
> * The invitation was already made. Even if the sponsors and their
> invitation embody the OS spirit, I suggested some changes that we
> are going to introduce in the signals in the room.
> * They insisted that they don't want to ask people to confirm
> attendance, as it may be a bit as "forcing".
> * They asked me, so to think how to make it really easy to get
> introduced in the job for people coming at whatever time (the
> attendance is supposed to be something like this: 20 people at 4,
> 20 more at 5, 20 more at 6, maybe 40 more between 6 and 8 and many
> people leaving in between). I thought about some lines to hand out
> to facilitate a quick understanding of OS.
> * Taking notes and the final report may happen, but the sponsors
> challenge (that I accepted) was to integrate every idea and note
> during the event in one big Mind Map.
> * I'll open space in both Basque and Spanish to encourage
> conversations taking place in both (everybody coming know Spanish,
> but I'm sure that different languages would form different groups
> and give birth to more diverse ideas), so I'll be trying to be as
> short as possible in the introduciton message. That's why I'm very
> interested about the answers to Artur's last message (OST
> following a creative enhacing training) that I repost here:
>
>
> "....Anyhow the main facilitator/trainer of the previous day made me a
> suggestion that I would like to have your opinions about. The suggestion
> was based in the way they have done their trainings in the past
> (explaining everything in the beginning) and the way they do now
> (explaining only what is needed for each phase). So the suggestion was
> to divide the opening in two parts: the first one with a bit of history
> and the presentation of the timetable with no Agenda and then ask for
> session topics; and then explain the principles, law and animals and go
> on to the Market Place." ...
>
>
>
> I have some opinions about this, but I prefer to give them later. At
> this moment I would like to know if anyone has ever tried this two-steps
> type of opening and with what results. If not (and considering the
> context I have mentioned of the previous one day training) what do you
> think about the suggestion I have received?..."
>
>
> If you know about anyone near Bilbao that might be interested in OS,
> forward this piece of info, please, and our invitation to join us in
> the consp!ration.
>
> Thanks for your support,
>
> Eleder
>
> pd: I recently moved from Bilbao to Mundaka, a small town on the coast,
> much more inspiring for waver riders, sure :-)!
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>From Sun Nov 14 21:13:46 2010
Message-Id: <SUN.14.NOV.2010.211346.0100.>
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:13:46 +0100
Reply-To: thomas at openspaceconsulting.com
To: OSLIST <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
From: Thomas Herrmann <thomas at openspaceconsulting.com>
Organization: Open Space Consulting
Subject: SV: self-organization and "conscious" Open Space organizations
[was OST and PD (Positive Deviance)]
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Hi and thanks for sharing
Just got curious and want to ask you Artur if you always use Open Space
Technology when you work with a group? I find more and more =
opportunities
but still think that there are times when I need a more =93directed=94 =
approach.
For me, most of the times WPPF is the best complementary method =96 =
although I
usually separate them and use them according to when I find they fit =
best.
When I use OST, (which is part of almost all of my assignments!) I =
consider
myself to work pretty much =93by the book=94 =96 because I think that =
works best!
=20
For example I have, so far, never used only OST all through a =
OST-process
with a client (prework, main event and follow up). I am pretty sure I =
will
try a full OST for a pre-meeting soon, probably with one of the =
=93free=94
events I occasionally do with non-profits (as mentioned earlier we =
actually
used Open Space for the pre-work for WOSonOS here, back in 2003).
=20
Other occasions when I find WPPF useful are when I facilitate learning
during trainings and some workshops. One example is a workshop I =
facilitated
a couple of weeks ago in a nearby University. A researcher had some =
findings
that she was invited to share =96 and we included her sharing into a =
powerful
WPPF container which gave (I think) a completely different level of =
learning
than would have happened in a more traditional way of sharing research
findings. With the time constraints of 3,5 hours I did not find OST to =
be a
good choice for this.
Warm regards
Thomas
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=20
Fr=E5n: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] F=F6r Artur Silva
Skickat: den 14 november 2010 19:27
Till: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
=C4mne: Re: self-organization and "conscious" Open Space organizations =
[was
OST and PD (Positive Deviance)]
=20
Hi Raffi:
=20
The Concepts of "Whole Person" and "Whole Person Approach" have been =
around
for some time and are not new (for instance, see
http://www.well.com/user/dooley/change.pdf, A Whole-Person/Systemic =
Approach
to Organization Change Management, By Jeff Dooley, copyright 1998), and =
the
same is true with other concepts like "left brain/right brain", =
"learning
styles", etc. Of course, anyone can take a piece from here and another =
from
there and give it a new name, and eventually even trademark it.
=20
My only experience attending a Whole Person session was that I was being
directed to do this or that, because the facilitator was convinced that =
this
or that would put my right brain at work (which is not needed because it =
is
always at work...). But the point is that I don't like being "directed"
neither to "direct others".
=20
For me, the magic of OST is that the facilitator does not need to direct
people (except, eventually, as Harrison recalled, to justify the fee). =
Just
open some space and the whole person will appear and real whole people =
will
direct themselves and do the job.
=20
Abra=E7os (this time in Portuguese)
=20
Artur
=20
=20
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From: Raffi Aftandelian <raffi_1970 at YAHOO.COM>
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 3:23:20 AM
Subject: Re: [OSLIST] self-organization and "conscious" Open Space
organizations [was OST and PD (Positive Deviance)]
Queridos Harrison, Artur, y todos-
(...)
Artur, I was intrigued in you talking about Whole Person Process
Facilitation as a directive process. I see how you can call it that. And =
as
someone who has been using WPPF the past 6 years, I'm excited that the =
four
principles and the Law are invoked- at least the way I was taught- in a =
WPPF
meeting...I don't know of any other meeting method that works within a
pre-set agenda that does that.
abrazos,
Raffi
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lang=3DEN-US =
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D'>Hi and thanks for sharing<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Just got curious and want to ask you Artur if you always use Open =
Space Technology when you work with a group? I find more and more =
opportunities but still think that there are times when I need a more =
“directed” approach. For me, most of the times WPPF is the =
best complementary method – although I usually separate them and =
use them according to when I find they fit best. When I use OST, (which =
is part of almost all of my assignments!) I consider myself to work =
pretty much “by the book” – because I think that works =
best!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>For example I have, so far, never used only OST all through a =
OST-process with a client (prework, main event and follow up). I am =
pretty sure I will try a full OST for a pre-meeting soon, probably with =
one of the “free” events I occasionally do with non-profits =
(as mentioned earlier we actually used Open Space for the pre-work for =
WOSonOS here, back in 2003).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Other occasions when I find WPPF useful are when I facilitate =
learning during trainings and some workshops. One example is a workshop =
I facilitated a couple of weeks ago in a nearby University. A researcher =
had some findings that she was invited to share – and we included =
her sharing into a powerful WPPF container which gave (I think) a =
completely different level of learning than would have happened in a =
more traditional way of sharing research findings. With the time =
constraints of 3,5 hours I did not find OST to be a good choice for =
this.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Warm regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Thomas<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
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n></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> OSLIST =
[mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <b>F=F6r </b>Artur =
Silva<br><b>Skickat:</b> den 14 november 2010 19:27<br><b>Till:</b> =
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br><b>=C4mne:</b> Re: self-organization =
and "conscious" Open Space organizations [was OST and PD =
(Positive Deviance)]<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:black'>Hi Raffi:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:black'>The Concepts of "Whole Person" and =
"Whole Person Approach" have been around for some time and are =
not new (for instance, see <a =
href=3D"http://www.well.com/user/dooley/change.pdf" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.well.com/user/dooley/change.pdf</a>, A =
Whole-Person/Systemic Approach to Organization Change =
Management, By Jeff Dooley, copyright 1998), and the same is true =
with other concepts like "left brain/right brain", =
"learning styles", etc. Of course, anyone can take a piece =
from here and another from there and give it a new name, and eventually =
even trademark it.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:black'>My only experience attending a Whole Person =
session was that I was being directed to do this or that, because the =
facilitator was convinced that this or that would put my right brain at =
work (which is not needed<b> because it is always at work</b>...). But =
the point is that I don't like being "directed" neither to =
"direct others".</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:black'>For me, the magic of OST is that the facilitator =
does not need to direct people (except, eventually, as Harrison =
recalled, to justify the fee). Just open some space and the whole person =
will appear and real whole people will direct themselves and do the =
job.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto'><span style=3D'color:black'>Abra=E7os =
(this time in Portuguese)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Artur<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div class=3DMsoNormal =
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class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Raffi Aftandelian <raffi_1970 at YAHOO.COM><br><b>To:</b> =
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<br><b>Sent:</b> Sun, November 14, 2010 =
3:23:20 AM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSLIST] self-organization and =
"conscious" Open Space organizations [was OST and PD (Positive =
Deviance)]<br></span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>Queridos =
Harrison, Artur, y todos-<br><br>(...)<br><br>Artur, I was intrigued in =
you talking about Whole Person Process<br>Facilitation as a directive =
process. I see how you can call it that. And as<br>someone who has been =
using WPPF the past 6 years, I'm excited that the four<br>principles and =
the Law are invoked- at least the way I was taught- in a =
WPPF<br>meeting...I don't know of any other meeting method that works =
within a<br>pre-set agenda that does =
that.<br><br>abrazos,<br>Raffi<br><br>*<br>*<br>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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